Hidden Lake academy

[Anonymous]

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[Deborah]

Macaroni,
Welcome. You said:
Some things I did not agree with is when students, teachers, and counselors had to sit at Lower left, lake front, or GYM for hours at the time looking at the woods.

What do you mean 'lower left, lake front or Gym'? What was the purpose and why did staff and teachers have to participate?

[Deborah]

***yes you have homosexuals there

Was this considered a mental illness or a 'problem behavior' that could be 'fixed' with isolation from the world and BM?
If so, did you find this a bit contradictory? Given that the owner is homosexual, why would his program 'treat' homosexuality?

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Wait...Where's SHH?  We need her to come in here and tell Macaroni that he's lying.  

That there is NO racism in Dahlonega.  

That there were NO maggots in the food.  

That he DID get fired and IS disgruntled.

Geez, SHH.  You're flagging...

[SHH Anon Classics]

Thank you for finally respecting my wishes with the SHH thing.

1) there is NO racism in Dahlonega..you have it confused with Dawson county 15 miles south. Blacks live in Dahlonega. It is Cumming and Dawsonville who have a race issue or used to anyway. You were wrong about that one Dysfunction. The KKK branch in North Georgia is in Dawson County. Look it up if you don't believe me. Blacks come and go and work and go to college and are tourists there in Dahlonega without a single race incident in the 20 something years I either visited Dahlonega or lived there, and I lived in Dahlonega for 5 1/2 years.

2) I dont know anything about maggots, that certainly never happened the 7 yrs I was visiting and lived at the school, but part of the soup stock used to come from the food service and its possible that it came contaminated from the factory which of course either way wouldnt be good. We had that happen at my high school one time...food that came off the truck that had spoiled already.

3) Anybody who leaves a job they didnt like would be disgruntled but I know this one quit, not fired.

4)I am not going to tell him he is lying because I have no facts of this particular person. The only people I have accused of lying is the ones who stated things that I happen to KNOW FOR A FACT that they are.

Hi Macaroni by the way...Im SHH, I knew the school from 3 months before it opened (in sept 1994) until February 2001. I was married to the director of operations and worked parttime as a teachers clerical asst. for a year.

Happy now?? LOL

[SHH]

[Deborah]

***1) there is NO racism in Dahlonega

SHH, are you totally disregarding a black man's experience in Dahlonega? Is that an indirect accusation that he is lying or exaggerating? Again, it appears that if you didn't experience it first hand, then it must not exist. That's a pretty narrow view of the world, SHH.

He said:
In my 8 months working in Dahlonega, I could feel the looks, stares, and heard some of the comments made about black folks. I never heard staff at HLA say anything, but I will never live or work in that area again in my life. I can't say that its the home of the KKK but I know there are some in Dahlonega and I prayed everyday that my car would never breakdown on Waseaga Road or any where north of Atlanta.
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The presence of a few 'brave' black people in the community does not prove there is no racism. Nor does the lack of any 'racial' incidents.

Have you viewed the demographics?
98.5% One race
1.5% Black
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:Q- ... ,+ga&hl=en

Here?s a gem from White Revolution:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:PE ... ial+&hl=en

And specifically about Doles and his organization:

But Pilar Verdes of Mundo Hispánico decided to see what the neo-Nazis had to say. She got an earful ? especially after she attended a private rally held afterward at the DAHLONEGA home of NATIONAL ALLIANCE organizer Chester Doles, a former KLAN GRAND DRAGON himself.
"I was having an out-of-body experience," Verdes says. "I kept having to pinch myself. I never thought they would be so stupid to say those things. I was not hiding my tape recorder. They're very exhibitionist. And scary."
"This nation was founded by white men," Steven Barry, editor of the neo-Nazi Resister magazine and then an Alliance principal, told Verdes. "We don't need colors." Barry went on to talk about his models for resisting the Hispanic influx.

http://www.faithandthecity.org/issues/s ... rnia.shtml

You?re Hispanic? If Doles had his way, you?d be out-of-there !!!
Doles led a march around the blooming crepe myrtles of Gainesville's town square, bellowing: "What do we want?"
"Mexicans out!" came the answer.
"When do we want it?"
"Now!"

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I know racism is alive and well in Dahlonega, so that's all the research I'm willing to provide for your education. You must live in a fairy-tale kind of bubble. If you don't see or hear it, it doesn't exist.

You 'just wanted to set the record straight on that'??   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2005-04-17 08:40 ]

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C'Mon, Deborah!  What's wrong with you?  If Mrs. Gray hasn't PERSONALLY experienced something, then that something, whatever it may be, NEVER HAPPENED.

FACTS have no place here and are forthwith objectively extirpated.

Like this:  Here's a "scientific lie" for you.  Maggots are the larvae of flies.  Flies lay their eggs on food.  Flies cannot lay eggs in, nor can larvae develop in, a factory sealed can of soup.  Mrs. Gray says the food was pre-spoiled (i.e. "factory fresh" maggots delivered to HLA), so this scientific conclusion is an obvious lie.  Time to revamp biology texts I guess.

Look, Deborah, you'll get along a lot better on this board if you simply ignore evrything that isn't specifically designated as FACT by Mrs. Gray, a world-renowned "factologist."  

She has the unique ability to qualify or disqualify any statement at any time based on her experience.

Example: "Space is a vacuum."  Mrs. Gray's likely response: "I've never experienced space as a vacuum.  You're a disgruntled liar."

As to your articles, well, Mrs. Gray never saw a racist rally in Dahlonega, therefore YOU are a disgruntled liar.

Get it, Deborah?

[SHH]

Deborah this particular post was typed before I ever went to the OTHER page where he made those comments....I was referring to Dysfunction's comments on this one. Dont confuse the two postings. What I meant and what you chose to TWIST was that I PERSONALLY never saw racism...nor heard about it, or read anything about it anywhere in all the years I was associated with Lumpkin Co. Dawson county IS the head of the KKK (current) and if a FORMER grand dragon lives in Dahlonega that has no bearing on the rest of the population's prejudice or lack therof. It is Dawson county and Forsyth county that I personally have heard and witnessed racism. Lumpkin Co. is NOT known to have a problem....I did say in my OTHER post that I was sorry that Macaroni felt uncomfortable..I did NOT call him a liar. Quit twisting my words to fit YOUR agenda. There is also quite a large hispanic group living in Dahlonega also, and the head of the Jail at Lumpkin Co. Jail is hispanic and someone I know personally. I also know a Spanish professor, black chef, and puerto rican chef IN Dahlonega...it might have a very small population who are backwards....but the VAST majority of Dahlonega folks are NOT prejudice, and I am sorry that Macaroni had a bad experience. As a hispanic female I never did encounter any problems whatsoever living in Lumpkin Co. and I was open about my being hispanic. I have actually encountered more prejudice in the state I now currently live in then when I lived in north GA.

[SHH]

Dysfunction there are NO RALLIES in Lumpkin Co. they are BANNED. THey have had rallies in downtown Cumming GA when I lived there and they were reduced to having to shut down because people protested and threw things at them. They are NOT allowed on the public streets in Lumpkin Co. And I have NEVER EVER heard of one in Lumpkin Co in the past 20 yrs.

[SHH]

read this carefully Deborah..it says PRIVATE....PRIVATE....there are NO LEGAL RALLIES ever allowed in Lumpkin Co. They would be asked to leave or arrested..I know the policies of the county. It is NOT tolerated by the county if they know about it. Obviously they ddidnt know about this one because it was on private property. ONE racist bastard does not make a racist county.

"a private rally held afterward at the DAHLONEGA home of NATIONAL ALLIANCE organizer Chester Doles, a former KLAN GRAND DRAGON"

[Deborah]

Oh yes honey, I get it!!
And I bet those maggots couldn't have possibly been caused by the flies a student complained about.
SHH set her straight too. No flies either.

[SHH]

Has the health dept shut down the kitchen? NO...has the state shut down the school? NO....has anybody ever died from food served at the school? NO.....if it was THAT horrible it would have been.....when I was there I NEVER saw flies other than normal ones that occasionally came in from outside through the screen door when it was open....like a normal house. And I saw some at the dumpster. I never saw "flies swarming" or maggots or anything like that. Like I said my perspective was from 1994-2001. I cant claim to see anything after that but when my mother in law worked there you can be assured that she did what she could to make sure everything was safe. She is NOT neglectful and raised 3 kids in a healthy environment and she knows what cleanliness is. She is one of the most "neat-freak" people I know. Her house was SPOTLESS, and you can also be assured that if any maggots were found the food service was notified and any unsafe practices that were discovered in the kitchen like leaving food uncovered or whatever was taken care of. If not the health dept would have shut them down long ago. They shut down restaurants in town so they arent slack.

[Deborah]

***What I meant and what you chose to TWIST was that I PERSONALLY never saw racism...nor heard about it, or read anything about it anywhere in all the years I was associated with Lumpkin Co.

Nope. Not true. I didn't 'twist' your words. You said, verbatim, "There is NO racism in Dahlonega".

You are getting closer to the truth when you said, "it might have a very small population who are backwards....but the VAST majority of Dahlonega folks are NOT prejudice.."

You really think Doles is a lone racist living in the hills of Dahonega, storing up weapons?

Dear lord, now you would have us believe that there is no racism because public rallies are banned, illegal. And if they weren't??? And if lynching weren't??? And if burning crosses in people of color's yards weren't???

[SHH]

Dysfunction said that I never saw rallies in Dahlonega and insinuated that there were rallies in town. And I stated that there was no such thing that happened in Dahlonega (the rallies on the square he made sound as if was some sort of fact that there were) I did type that there was no racism in Dahlonega because I never heard in all the 20 yrs I visited and lived there anything about racism or racist incidents EVER. But I did state about the other counties that DO have a problem. That wasn't an error. Deborah I have been to many states in my life, and I know what state you live in and dont know about your particular state, but I do have experiences in UNSouthern states where the racism was FAR more rampant. In Detroit Michigan for instance, near downtown there is a middle class neighborhood just north of downtown. They have actually built dirt mounds inbetwen connecting streets to keep the black folks and the white folks separate. Why I have no clue but that is what I saw and what a resident told me they were there for. Also, in nw neighborhoods such as novi, and northville, and farmington, a black person would not be welcome. And this is Detroit, with a very large black population. I was shocked. Also, in northern michigan, there are almost 0 percent blacks. I saw more bigotry in that state then I ever saw in Atlanta or north georgia. I did see racism in southern georgia too. Neighborhoods were very much divided etc.