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« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2005, 05:47:00 PM »
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2005, 06:28:00 PM »
Who said you were afraid of us? No much rather youre simply afraid of the truth and of course of being exposed for what you are and what the school is. Like I said you need to accept things as they are. Your constant denial might be a sympton of a bigger issue. Have you thought about possibly seeing if you could enroll yourself at HLA Im sure if you offer them enough theyll accept you. Oh still waiting for you to make good on any of your threats.
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« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2005, 07:19:00 PM »
Afraid of what truth ? your truth? I know what the truth is and quite frankly most of what I see on here is exxagerations and misrepresentations of what actually went on there. You have to remember something....people posting on here are former disgruntled employees who were fired and former students who didnt like being sent somewhere out in the boondocks for a year and a half to two years. In Deborah's case she is neither but she is a parent who didn't have full custody of her child and didnt agree with her ex sending her son there. I dont blame her for being upset about that necessarily, but I dont agree with alot of her statements either. So you didnt like HLA....thats fine....but slandering it to death with half-truths is unfair and I am not afraid of stating what I DO know about the school and defending it for what I experienced there. And I am not afraid of your statement of "being exposed for what I am" as you say....what would I be exposed as? LOL Being a 39 yr old mother of 2 who takes care of disabled family members and works in a career in banking??? LOL yea Im real afraid. I am what I said I am. NOthing more, nothing less. So I can't research every website on the net to find info that I have seen about HLA to copy and paste here yet. So I dont have time to get to my storage room to get those pics...So WHAT....Ill get to it eventually..on my own time...its not my priority. I dont run away in fear of anything on THIS board or any other. I post on several other ones also. If you dont see me post it is because I either am not online or dont feel its worth it. So go ahead and say what you will. Expose me for whatever the hell you THINK I am. Its all bullshit anyway and I could care less because I have NOTHING to hide and am not ashamed of anything I have ever done.
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« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2005, 07:33:00 PM »
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I never touched nor abused a single child of my own nor at HLA, no matter how much you want others to believe that.


No, you just processed them into HLA where they would be systematically abused and then called them liars and worse when they try to describe what happened to them here.

So you don't like being called Mrs. Gray. How about Resident Slut? Since you've obviously had sex and been divorced, wouldn't that be the proper HLA term for you? No? How about Resident Hypocrite? Better?

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« Reply #64 on: April 14, 2005, 07:43:00 PM »
Yea thats right...youre as bad as Robert...calling me names because I got divorced...yea WHATEVER....do you realize how nuts that statement is??? LMAO....calling me names over getting divorced has absolutely NOTHING to do with treatment at a boarding school. Would you be willing to call Deborah a slut because she is divorced??? I didnt think so. (Im not calling you one Deborah) You werent even there Antigen. You believe what someone else that you dont even know is telling you. AND...I did not process any children into a boarding facility. That was Dysfunction's job if you want to be specific. I was a teacher's assistant..I typed, copied, and mailed progress reports and report cards to parents, grandparents, educational consultants, and probation officers. How in the HELL is that abusive??? Antigen you have had many a discussion about abuse with my current husband over at the SEED board. I DO KNOW what is an abusive program and what is not. HLA is one far-ass cry from the SEED or the old Straight programs. And I have not insulted every student who comes on here...but I have told a few they were exxagerating. I am no abuser, slut, or hypocrit..or whatever chosen name you pick to call me other than SHH. JUST because I had a different experience than what is portrayed on here..I get called slut and abuser??? nice...real mature....since when have I ever called any of you a slut? or abuser? NEVER. Just goes to show the true nature of people huh? Very interesting from a sociology point of view. And very revealing too!  :grin:
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« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2005, 07:50:00 PM »
Ginger,
SHH knows so little that she failed to get your drift, or would like to appear dumb and 'attacked'. Probably the former. You'll have to explain if it's important to you that she understands.

[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2005-04-14 16:53 ]
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« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2005, 08:01:00 PM »
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"Yea thats right...youre as bad as Robert...calling me names because I got divorced...yea WHATEVER..


Don't you know that parents pay thousands per month for this treatment? And here you are getting it for free online. You don't even have to get up off your dead ass OR do any marching or deal w/ the bad food and smelly asses or anything. Some people!

Ok then, Ungrateful Hypocritical Slut then. God!

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« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2005, 08:13:00 PM »
HEY, CUNT
IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT U HEAR THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DONT REPLY TO ANYTHING. SOMETIMES YOUR STUPIDITY BLOWS MY MIND :scared:
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« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2005, 08:17:00 PM »
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« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2005, 10:58:00 PM »
Cows may come, and Cows may go, but the bull in this place goes on forever.
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« Reply #70 on: April 15, 2005, 08:11:00 AM »
Mrs. Gray,

Don't you think that people that worked at HLA or "students" at the facility have the most insight into what goes on there?  Wouldn't you agree that this is so?

Also, who are the "fired," disgruntled ex-employees posting here?  I seem to recall a teacher who resigned.  Then there's me, another resignation.  Who was fired?  Are you talking out of your ass once again?  It appears so.

"HLA is one far-ass cry from the SEED or the old Straight programs."  Yes, it is.  It is more sophisticated, less outwardly appalling, and manifold more expensive.  Does that make it any less abusive?  How about any more effective?  Study after study after study shows that these treatment modalities are ineffective at best, incredibly damaging at worst.

BTW, I do find it amusing that you, Mrs. Gray, cannot handle "program tactics" on a part-time basis, thru cyberspace.  Again, how do you think CHILDREN feel when they are berated like this face-to-face, day after day, night after night, ad infinitum, until the parents' money runs out?

What about the CHILDREN who have had "different experiences," as you say it, but are treated in a one-size-fits-all facility that "treats" everything from "homosexuality" to "oppositional defiance"?

Did you know that over 90% of the "students" at HLA have been labeled (not diagnosed, as they never receive psychological evaluations) as having "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and that ODD has recently been dropped as a diagnosis by the mental health community because it is NOT a disorder at all?  What's the next "moneymaker" "diagnosis" these kids can be labeled with at HLA?

I don't know why you continue to rail against the facts of the matter, Mrs. Gray.  It's interesting from a psychological point of view...
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« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2005, 10:31:00 AM »
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"Yea thats right...youre as bad as Robert...calling me names because I got divorced...yea WHATEVER....do you realize how nuts that statement is??? LMAO....calling me names over getting divorced has absolutely NOTHING to do with treatment at a boarding school. Would you be willing to call Deborah a slut because she is divorced??? I didnt think so. (Im not calling you one Deborah) You werent even there Antigen. You believe what someone else that you dont even know is telling you. AND...I did not process any children into a boarding facility. That was Dysfunction's job if you want to be specific. I was a teacher's assistant..I typed, copied, and mailed progress reports and report cards to parents, grandparents, educational consultants, and probation officers. How in the HELL is that abusive??? Antigen you have had many a discussion about abuse with my current husband over at the SEED board. I DO KNOW what is an abusive program and what is not. HLA is one far-ass cry from the SEED or the old Straight programs. And I have not insulted every student who comes on here...but I have told a few they were exxagerating. I am no abuser, slut, or hypocrit..or whatever chosen name you pick to call me other than SHH. JUST because I had a different experience than what is portrayed on here..I get called slut and abuser??? nice...real mature....since when have I ever called any of you a slut? or abuser? NEVER. Just goes to show the true nature of people huh? Very interesting from a sociology point of view. And very revealing too!  :grin: "



Interesting your husband married a captor after being held by some.
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« Reply #72 on: April 15, 2005, 07:46:00 PM »
Again Mrs. Gray you post as if you have some knowledge of what goes on at HLA. Weve made this beyond clear you dont. Since this is the case how can assert that we are telling half truths and exagerations? Now you are certianlly entitled to claim that you never saw or knew of the things we are refering to ( as an employee of HLA denial would automatically have to be a big part of your job description anyway) but to call us liars when you have no such basis, and are refusing to examine the facts for yourself is just one more testament to what a hypocritical bitch you are Mrs. Gray. Im curious though, how is it you have the time to contact the health dept about the score the cafeteria recieved, yet dont have the time to call them back on the full story or the Lumpkin County Register or the ORS? Oh still still still waiting for you to make good on your empty threats. Or have you forgotten mine and Dysfunctions names?
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« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2005, 12:54:00 AM »
Good day to all present and former HLA people. I worked at HLA for about 8 months and there was some things I agreed with and some I did not agree with. I worked there while Marla was there. For me the HLA experience was like any other job you like some things and you dislike some things. If you dislike things then you move on. I was a counselor and I had experience before going into the job and I did not feed into the admin. I did my job like it was describe in the job description. I was not fired. I left because I wanted to pursue a teaching and coaching career and to spend more time with my children. The school is a therapeutic boarding school which consist of students that have emotional, behavioral, drug and alchol, and family problems. Some belong and some do not belong. The school is not supposed to be easy. Yes you have students there who cut, yes you have homosexuals there, yes you have students who may get into fights, and yes you have some inexperience counselors and teachers. But anyone who will enroll their child make sure its the best situation for there student. The school does have some success and no therapy is 100 percent gaurenteed. Every school and/or job has it good and bad sides. The school has some good things but does need some revamping to make it a better experience for the staff and students.
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« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2005, 01:20:00 AM »
HLA at a Glance from a former employees eyes!  When I left HLA it was some what emotional because I did make friends and I loved working with my peer groups and some of the students.  I also coached basketball up there.  

The school is ran by a dictatorship!  If you do not do what they say you have to do then you will get fired, and some staff cannot afford to leave that situation because they have to feed their families.  

The schools last inspection was the either in Jan. or Feb. of 2005.  When I was there I did not eat any soup especially after they found maggots in the soup.  They had the same thing each week.  I used to call fridays.  "Fish Fridays".  While on restrictions student had to clean up, do pt, writing assignments, break down boxes and take out the trash. (All I witnessed)  The students had one phone call a week with their parents and they could email sibblings and families at parents discretion.  They were not allowed to have contact with friends untill the eight month, and that was because some of their friends were the reason they were in their current situation.  Some of the activities students went on is Atlanta Braves games, plays in Atlanta, movies, skatting, bowling, Atlanta Falcans games, sports at the school.  Some things I did not agree with is when students, teachers, and counselors had to sit at Lower left, lake front, or GYM for hours at the time looking at the woods.  
I did my job and moved on with my life, but I always looked out for the best interest of my Peer Groups.  The student did do community service.  But people its a Therapuetic Boarding School, What do you expect.  No addict or student wants to be away from home trying to change their ways that may have destroyed their home life and that is destroying their bodies and life.  
Parents before you send you students there do your homework and make sure its the best place for you.  According to The Georgia Independent Schools Website (http://www.gisa-schools.org/), they are accrideted by GAC and SACS, and members of the NAIS and SAIS.  ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!
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