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Offline Anonymous

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« on: February 11, 2005, 03:22:00 PM »
iS IT true that some of these treatment facilities will detain teens past the age of 18 years? Which centers? For how long past the age of 18? MY sister-in law is having difficulties with her unruy 17 years old son. But he will be turning 18 May 24.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2005, 03:23:00 PM »
Persistent little fuck aren't you? :rofl:  :rofl:

What was done with the seed saved from the India Hemp last summer? It ought, all of it, to have been sewn again; that not only a stock of seed sufficient for my own purposes might have been raised, but to have disseminated the seed to others; as it is more valuable than the common Hemp.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/188301123X/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>George Washington, Writings of Washington, Vol. 35, pg. 72

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2005, 04:49:00 PM »
So, you're asking us to help you detain a legal adult? Thats kidnapping.

Get a life, get a clue, or get a gun and pull the trigger, making sure the barrel is aimed in your eye.

And now the liberals want to stop President Reagan from selling chemical warfare agents and military equipment to Saddam Hussein and why? Because Saddam 'allegedly' gassed a few Kurds in his own country. Mark my words. All of this talk of Saddam Hussein being a 'war criminal' or 'committing crimes against humanity' is the same old thing. LIBERAL HATE SPEECH! and speaking of poison gas... I SAY WE ROUND UP ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS AND GAS THEM TOO!
 
--Rush Limbaugh, November 3, 1988

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2005, 05:03:00 PM »
i THINK people are gonna stop coming to this board for help if you continue to be so judgmental towards their plights. Use what is remaining of your brain to think a little.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2005, 09:28:00 PM »
Judgemental to their plight?

They want help to kidnap and keep captive a child who is about to be legally emancipated. THAT IS KIDNAPPING. Plight my fucking ass.

I'd wager 98% of the kids in thne programs need NO help at all and half of that 2% dont need PROGRAM help. Any idiot parent can send a kid off if they have money and sign off on it.

Unruly is vague and meaningless. If its just becuase he has a mouth, tough shit, you cant send your kid off to torture camp to get broken, and if hes about to turn 18, and you want to kidnap an adult, fuck them and fuck YOU.

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2005, 09:44:00 PM »
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And now the liberals want to stop President Reagan from selling chemical warfare agents and military equipment to Saddam Hussein and why? Because Saddam 'allegedly' gassed a few Kurds in his own country. Mark my words. All of this talk of Saddam Hussein being a 'war criminal' or 'committing crimes against humanity' is the same old thing. LIBERAL HATE SPEECH! and speaking of poison gas... I SAY WE ROUND UP ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS AND GAS THEM TOO!
 
--Rush Limbaugh, November 3, 1988

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While I am not a fan of Rush Limbaugh by any stretch of the imagination, I think it is only fair to point out that this is a fictitious quote that is the result of a 'Boondocks' cartoon from 2004.
http://http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh2.asp
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2005, 09:53:00 PM »
Sometimes there are situations when it is necessary to have a legal ault in a controlled enviroment. Even lock down facilties if you will. Say for instance there is a teen threating to pull a melendez brothers masacre. If that teen is 18 are we just gonna this regard his/her threats? If you do not know the scefics of their plight you can not judge. Should we let Osama Bin laden get away with global terrorism because he is of legal age? You can make a blanket statement like that Nilolantic!
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2005, 09:55:00 PM »
Cn not make a blanket statement I meant.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2005, 10:11:00 PM »
I have seen no indication this kid needs real treatment, just vague statements from an anonymous poster. WTF does 'unruly' mean? Potentially anything, or nothing at all!

I'm sure there ARE cases where adults need it. All I'm saying is PROVE THAT THERE IS A NEED FIRST. Not just some uneducated assumption for locking up said kid. How about a real medical professional? That would be a good start.

People over-use programs, BIG TIME. Demonstrate the necessity, and then demonstrate the facility in mind is nonabusive, and also, actually therapeutic, and I'll be for it. But, seeing as no necessity has been demonstrated, why would I support a kid getting sent off to a more than likely abusive program or kidnapped as an adult? Unless hes insane and ACTUALLY A DANGER he doesnt belong anywhere.

Furthermore, if there is some teen threatening a melendez brothers massacre, GET A REAL DOC. Not a fucking program. More than likely hes just saying it anyway.

And that statement about OBL and legal age is such bullshit. OBL actually did something and hes a threat so he should be caught or killed, DUH. I dont see this 'unruly' kid an actual danger to anyone because of the incredibly vague statement about him from the anonymous poster.

And its NIHILANTHIC. Copypaste if you cant spell.

You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence.

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2005, 05:16:00 AM »
I'd say about 70% can benefit Niles. 98% not needing it my ass.[ This Message was edited by: Perrigaud on 2005-02-12 02:17 ]
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2005, 11:27:00 AM »
I m the person who started this topic. My Sister-In Law's 17 years old son has dropped his grades from from A to B AND has been missing his curfew by at least 3 hours. Curfew is 7:30 on Weekdays/school nights 8:30 on weekends/holidays.He has returned home from hanging out with his friends smelling like alcohol and we are concerned this is opening Pandora's box as far as things he could potentialy get into. I do agree that were some judgemental responses to my question. So I have given more insight. There is more reason to say I was too vague.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2005, 11:28:00 AM »
No more reason for anyone to say I am being too vague.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2005, 01:12:00 PM »
Well since you put it that way.. Lets see what can be done......

Purchase a rack, a whip and large quantities of salt.

I would suggest 10 lashes for each letter drop in grades, and 3 lashes for each hour past curfew. If this does not seem to work then you will need to begin rubbing salt into the wounds until a proper comprise is made.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2005, 01:15:00 PM »
To the Anon who is worried about their sister-in laws son, may I suggest getting a 'Youth at risk' petition filed with juvenile court.  That way it's up to him to get into trouble, and then suffer the consequences of being sent to juvenile hall.  But please never send them away to those hell holes like CEDU.  
I would use the youth at risk as a last resort only.  Talking with him is very important before taking this step.  Grades slipping from A's to B's is at least still doing pretty darn good.  And a 7:30 & 8:30 curfews for a 17 year old is asking for trouble. I think it's time to allow him a little freedom.  See if he takes the responsibilty.  But again, don't consider having him locked up, taken away, not allowed any contact with the family and be subject to behavior modification torture, just because he's growing up.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2005, 02:34:00 PM »
The curfews are stupid and yeah, they're asking for trouble. Unrealistic restrictions are an open invitation for defiance.

As to Bs? Kiss my ass! He's doing great! Get over yourself and let the kid grow up and stop treating him like a kid. The point of being a teenager is to STOP being a kid.

One does not have to appeal to God to set the initial conditions for the creation of the universe, but if one does He would have to act through the laws of physics.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

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