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Offline BuzzKill

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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2005, 10:22:00 AM »
Any of you folks who know how to post pictures, write me, I'll send you one taken at High Impact for posting. I can't figure out how to post pictures - wish I could.

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2005, 10:24:00 AM »
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On 2005-01-20 19:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"http://www.purerebuttal.com/WWASPS_PRESS_REBUTTAL.pdf



This is one that I've not seen. Does this mean that PURE brought in people that were not affiliated with WWASPS as well as some that were? Can someone shed a little more light on the "Let Freedom Ring rebuttal?" Did the jury hear from those that were never abused or even saw abuse? Or wasn't that allowed? "
 


They're talking about High Impact. WWASP pretends High Impact was nothing to do with them but an employee at the trial testified that it was and that he had been instructed to pretend otherwise. Funny how the rebuttal glosses over that bit.


What employee did they bring in?  Was it someone other than Amberly Knight?  Amberly Knight's testimony?  Her sworn statements change from case to case.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2005, 10:41:00 AM »
Chris:
//They're STILL the same sort of programs! //

Now see, you don't know anything of the sort. You are afraid this might be the case; your suspicious - but you don't Know any such thing.

I feel confident this is not the case. I also do not Know - However - I do Know Sue, and as a result, I feel confident the programs she would refer to are not anything like The Program.

As for why she doesn't list the programs she refers to, I can only speculate - but I can come up with a good reason or two. Mostly, I suspect there is the desire to avoid a bunch of kooks and goof balls harassing them.

Sue has told me she doesn't refer to outdoor adventure programs. Myself, I think Out Ward Bound would be one to consider referring to; but as for all the outward bound wannabees - I agree -far to dangerous.

The manner in which PURE is funded is a source of controversy. I can see both sides and so don't bother to argue the issue either way. Sue is doing what feels right to her, and that's her choice.

As for information anyone might have about abuse taking place in a program you feel PURE refers to; Why not just talk to her about it? Maybe you know something she doesn't; or maybe she can explain why it isn't a legitimate concern.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2005, 10:45:00 AM »
Their good buddy Lon makes it clear High Impact was WWASP:
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#77033

The transcripts of the trail will be available soon. You'll be able to read for yourself who said what. Be sure to read over Ken Kay's testimony. I personally feel it was the some of the most enlightening of the trial.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2005, 11:07:00 AM »
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I feel confident this is not the case. I also do not Know - However - I do Know Sue, and as a result, I feel confident the programs she would refer to are not anything like The Program.

As for why she doesn't list the programs she refers to, I can only speculate - but I can come up with a good reason or two. Mostly, I suspect there is the desire to avoid a bunch of kooks and goof balls harassing them.



Karen this is another "trust the program" way of thinking.  If the programs are "good" then why not list them?  Why do we have to blindly trust you are your protege?
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2005, 11:32:00 AM »
The issuse the jury heard was WWASP claims of slander and defamation.They claimed that Sue posted the negative facts to promote Pure.

She provided documentation,testimonies from witnesses to SUBSTANTIATE the origanl post to be truth not slander or defamation.


The truth hurts and the Program doesnt want the truth to be known.

It doesnt matter how many "happy parents " there may be. If any kid has been hurt,its one too many.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2005, 12:01:00 PM »
Happy Program Parents; Faithful legions; brainwashed masses - take your pick.

Reminds me of the poem, Little Boxes; "their all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the same."

 :roll: Some mysterious anon asks:
Why do we have to blindly trust you are your protege?

You don't; and nothing I said indicates I think you should.
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2005, 01:02:00 PM »
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I feel confident the programs she would refer to are not anything like The Program.



Based on what Karen, "blind faith" or "blind trust."  Is that where your confidence comes from?
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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2005, 03:30:00 PM »
Based on what Karen, "blind faith", "blind trust?"  How is it that you are so confident that the schools PURE refers to are not anything like "The Program?"
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2005, 04:21:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-21 07:45:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"Their good buddy Lon makes it clear High Impact was WWASP:

Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#77033



The transcripts of the trail will be available soon. You'll be able to read for yourself who said what. Be sure to read over Ken Kay's testimony. I personally feel it was the some of the most enlightening of the trial.

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WWASPS referred kids to High Impact, as did other similar programs.  Parent Resources is not Teen Help from what I'm seeing.  Parent Resources referred to High Impact, as well as other programs including WWASPS.  An educational consultant also refers to many different programs.  What's the connection other than they referred the toughest kids to High Impact? WWASPS, each individual school, also refers kids to programs outside of their family of schools.  Too bad they referred to High Impact in such cases, but I've since heard that kids that went there improved tremendously, though it wouldn't have been my choice.
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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2005, 04:25:00 PM »
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Parent Resources is not Teen Help

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2005, 04:50:00 PM »
Find us a kid who was in High Impact that didn't come in from a wwasp program.

Find us a school/program that sent kids to High Impact that wasn't wwasp.

You can no more find either example than you can find a pig with wings.
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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2005, 05:03:00 PM »
/Parent Resources is not Teen Help from what I'm seeing./


You aint looking deep enough. It is your pals at WWASP who treated kids in this brutal and inexcusable manor.

Get you head out of your ass and read the review Lon wrote. He called and asked about High Impact -and got a bunch of info on the various wwasp programs. A price list for the various wwasp programs. No Other programs. None. WWASP programs.  High Impact was WWASP. They were working on a High Impact at Dundee when they got raided. Thet'd be doing the same things in Costa Rica today if Costa Rica hadn't intervened.
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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2005, 05:04:00 PM »
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Thet'd be doing the same things in Costa Rica today if Costa Rica hadn't intervened.

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They're doing these things at Costa Rica right now... Dundee has been re-opened as Pillars of Hope   :cry:
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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2005, 09:20:00 AM »
Little houses on a hillside and they're all made out of ticky-tacky and they all look just like boxes and they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses all went to the university where they all got put in boxes and they all came out the same.

And the children will all grow up and go to the university where they'll all get put in boxes and they'll all come out the same.

Little houses on a hillside and they're all made out of ticky-tacky and they all look just like boxes and they all look just the same.

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It was a popular song--I think in the sixties--and it doesn't have nearly the same impact in print without the tune.  The tune is one of those cheerful, sing-song, half-insane little tunes that really has a "Stepford" feel to it.  It's a great song.

I learned it from a friend who was a few years older and a 'Nam vet/draftee.  He was a really great Irish Folk musician, made his living playing in the pubs locally.  We lost him to lung cancer back at Thanksgiving and there are a whole lot of people who miss him a lot.

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