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« on: October 17, 2004, 04:49:00 PM »
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/dru ... Letter.pdf

AN OPEN LETTER TO PARENTS ABOUT MARIJUANA
Did You Know?
Marijuana puts kids at risk. It is the most widely used illicit drug among youth today and is more potent than ever. Marijuana use can lead to a host of significant health, social, learning and behavioral problems at a crucial time in a young person?s development. Getting high also impairs judgment, which can wreak havoc on teens in high-pressure social situations, leading to risky decision making on issues like sex, criminal activity or riding with someone who is driving high. And don?t be fooled by popular beliefs. Kids can get hooked on pot. Research shows that marijuana use can lead to addiction. More teens enter treatment for marijuana abuse each year than for all other illicit drugs combined. This fall, America?s youth will hear a new message about marijuana, thanks to collaboration among federal agencies, public health organizations, educators and concerned parents. The initiative will inform young people that using marijuana has real consequences and can put their futures at risk. It will teach them that the dangers of marijuana are not overblown and must be taken seriously. Most of all, this campaign will dispel the myths about marijuana by concentrating on the facts. Time and again, kids say their parents are the single most important influence when it comes to drugs. So this message needs to start with you. Kids need to hear how risky marijuana use can be. They need to know how damaging it can be to their lives. And they need to begin by listening to someone they trust. To learn more about marijuana and how to keep your kids drug-free, please visit http://www.theantidrug.com or call 800-788-2800. Then talk with your kids. Together, we can help them separate the myths from the facts. Signed: ? American Academy of Family Physicians ? American Academy of Pediatrics ? American College of Emergency Physicians ? American Medical Association ? American Society of Addiction Medicine ? Child Welfare League of America ? Community Anti-Drug Coalitions of America/ Drug-Free Kids Campaign ? National Asian Pacific American Families Against Substance Abuse ? National Association of State Alcohol and Drug Abuse Directors ? National Center for School Health Nursing ? National Crime Prevention Council ? National Families in Action ? National Family Partnership ? National Indian Health Board ? National Medical Association ? National PTA ? Office of National Drug Control Policy ? The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse (CASA) at Columbia University Office of National Drug Control Policy PARENTS.
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2004, 06:43:00 PM »
Thanks for the propaganda. Now here's some reality based reporting.

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The Consumers Union Report on Licit and Illicit Drugs

by Edward M. Brecher and the Editors of Consumer Reports Magazine, 1972



Part VIII
Marijuana and Hashish


Marijuana is the popular name for a plant,  Cannabis Sativa, also known as hemp.  Marijuana is also the common name of the drug prepared by drying the leaves and flowering tops of the plant. The leaves and tops contain several members of a group of chemicals known as the cannabinoids.  Hashish is the drug produced by drying the resin exuded by the marijuana plant. The resin is richer in cannabinoids than the leaves and tops?? one gram of hashish is said to have the effectiveness of five to eight grams of marijuana?? but the potency of both marijuana and hashish varies widely from sample to sample. One of the cannabinoids, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, was for a time believed to be the major active ingredient; the role of THC in the marijuana experience, however, is now in question.

Under the name Extract of Cannabis, marijuana was once widely used medically in the United States, and it still has minor medical uses in other countries. though sometimes classed as a hallucinogen (LSD-like drug), marijuana is in fact unique, both chemically and in psychological effects produced. Hallucinogens are not a common effect of the drug, but (like alcohol hallucinations) a symptom of overdose.

Marijuana and hashish are commonly smoked in the United States; they can also be taken orally in foods or beverages. They are not addicting. Neither tolerance nor withdrawal symptoms have been reliably reported. The lethal dose is not known; no human fatalities have been documented

Read on ... http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Lib ... /cu53.html

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2004, 06:50:00 PM »
First of all, Marijuana is not a drug. It is an herb. No one has ever died from its use. Many have benefited from its medicinal properties. It is not a gateway substance, leading to use of acutal drugs. There are many working on the legalization of THC for use in kids with so-called ADD/ADHD because IT WORKS much better than methamphetimine-SPEED (ritalin) bigpharma hawks and has NO NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS.

It has never been useful or effective to give kids inadequate or inaccurate information about pot or drugs. They will NEVER trust you to be honest with them. They will smell your fear and notice your ignorance. Zero tolerance has never and will never be effective.
http://www.drugtext.org/library/article ... baum01.htm

Read Andrew Weil. An interview:
http://www.doitnow.org/pages/weil.html
Excerpt:
Weil took what he had learned in his earlier formal and informal research and turned that knowledge to a very good advantage, indeed, arguing that human beings have an innate need for altered states of consciousness and that attempts to eliminate this need--and the personal and cultural expressions of this need--are doomed to perpetual failure.

And anyone who believe the crap in the forgoing message should read Mike Males as well:
http://home.earthlink.net/~mmales/yt-euro.htm
American advocates endlessly denigrate our youths for not acting like European youths. Yet, these same advocates don?t criticize American politicians for not emulating European governments? robust social insurance, health care, adult self-discipline, and youth rights traditions. Culturally, America isn?t Europe, they whine. True. So stop comparing our kids to theirs.As the U.S. belligerently hectors the globe on liberty and morality, perhaps we should consider why the Land of the Free is the world?s most amoral dictatorship toward its young people.

http://www.youthtoday.org/youthtoday/males.html
When examined, however, the YBRS and vital statistics measures from around the country show that these alleged risky behaviors have little to do with real risks. In fact, in states where more youths smoke marijuana, teens have significantly lower rates of homicide, drunken driving, traffic deaths, fatal accidents, gun deaths and total violent deaths, as well as lower birth rates and less gun-carrying. Teen pot-smoking is heaviest in New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island and Massachusetts, exactly the states where teens are safest from violent deaths.

http://www.fair.org/extra/0011/teen-drug.html
The simple truth officials and the media refuse to discuss: Today's chief abusers of heroin are not kids or minorities, but white middle-agers. DAWN's latest reports show four-fifths of heroin's overdose-death and hospital cases in 1999 were over age 30. Fewer than 1 percent were teenagers; just 5 percent were under age 25.
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The War on Drugs is a waste of tax dollars. It is an attempt to capitalize on the inherent nature of humans- the desire to alter their consciousness, which begins to manifest in babies- pacifiers and later spinning until dizzy- the one year olds favorite pass time.

Peddle your fear somewhere else. You won't get to a second page in this thread because you will never find the research necessary to back up the ridiculous position taken in that piece. Fear is a pathetic state of being. Do something about it.

This demonstration of ignorance and fear is exactly why we have teen warehouse facilities today. Get some therapy. Get over your fear so you can have a genuine relationship with your kid. Cause when the day is done- that's all there is and all that matters.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2004, 07:15:00 PM »
From the 'Experts'
http://www.safety1st.org/lets_talk_parents.html

ANSWERED BY MARSHA ROSENBAUM, PhD

"Should I tell my kids that I smoked pot in college?" ?Monica, mother of a 17-year-old son and 14-year-old daughter, Palo Alto, California

Dear Monica,
You are not alone in struggling with this difficult and very personal question. Many parents of teenagers today experimented with marijuana when they were in college, even high school. They worry that if they admit to their own drug use, it will send an affirmative signal to their teenagers.

Each family must find their own comfort level in divulging past drug use. However, in the spirit of maintaining an honest dialogue with your teenagers, admitting that you experimented might have a positive effect on your relationship.

You may find that you come across as a more credible source of information if your teens believe you know something, first hand, about what they?re experiencing.

If you have stopped using marijuana, you might explain why, and this may be an important lesson to your kids. What happened in your life to influence your decision?

Some parents feel they have to denigrate their past experiences in order to reinforce abstinence messages, even if they actually have no regrets. I believe this approach actually diminishes parents? credibility because they become less believable to their teens.

"What if a parent thinks that pot is basically harmless, non-addictive, etc., and condones the use of it by allowing kids to smoke it, or by smoking with them?"

This is a very challenging and emotional question. We believe it is crucial to distinguish between morality and actual concrete negative effects. We, as researchers and scientists, do not take a moral position.

There are many parents who believe that marijuana is fundamentally harmless. Usually they have used it themselves without serious consequence. According to Professor Mitch Earleywine, author of Understanding Marijuana (2002), although marijuana is not addictive in the conventional sense of the term, its use does cause problems for approximately nine percent (9%) of users. It is also illegal, putting both adults and their teenagers in jeopardy.

Some parents feel that their teens are safer staying home and avoiding the public use of marijuana, so they allow them to use it in the house. Many of these parents are convinced that their teens will use marijuana anyway, and would prefer the safety of their home to the street. The same attitude is also true for alcohol, and the belief is that it?s better to stay home than drink and drive.

When teens get older, there are those adult marijuana users who believe that, like sharing a beer, there is little harm in smoking with their college-age sons or daughters.

Every parent has to make their own decision about whether to use marijuana, whether to allow their teens to use it in their home, and whether to smoke with them. They should know that while they are keeping their kids off the streets, they may also be contributing to increased use and putting themselves and their teens in a very vulnerable legal position, since marijuana (and alcohol) possession and use is illegal.

ANSWERED BY DR. RODNEY SKAGER

"I have had problems with substance abuse in the past. How can parents with substance abuse problems (past or current) talk with their kids?" ?Father, Oakland

It is difficult to tell our children about things we are not proud of or are embarrassed by. However, those experienced with alcohol and other drug (AOD) problems are in a unique position to speak to teens with authority. One way to frame the discussion is, using Dr. Andrew Weil?s metaphor, to talk about people's "relationships" with AOD. People can have positive and negative relationships with AOD. Our job as parents is not only to describe good and bad drug effects, but also to teach our children when a person's relationship with a substance(s) is not healthy or safe.

Parents can use their experiences to illustrate the progression of an unsafe relationship with AOD. By including the positive experiences you may have had, you will be better equipped to demonstrate how, over time, you began to see how your AOD use and your relationship to the drug was interfering with having a fulfilling and happy life. Warning signs of a bad relationship with AOD include:

When you use a drug when you are working or going to school.
When you tell yourself you will not use and you find yourself using anyway.
When your relationships to friends, teachers, parents or other important people in your life are impacted by your AOD use.
When a majority of your time or money is being spent finding, buying, and using drugs, as well as being hung over as a result of drug use.

Be as honest as you can. Try not to close the door on future discussions by issuing ultimatums or loading your teen with a lot of guilt. Let them know that you hope they do not choose to experiment with AOD, particularly the drugs you yourself had difficulty with, but if they do, assure them that they can count on you to be there for them, no matter what.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2004, 09:06:00 PM »
I do agree that ADD meds do not work and give kids an excuse by thinking they are damaged in some way and making the pharmaceutical companies, and others, very, very rich.  Smoking weed helps? How?  Can a teenager really learn to work with their ADD by masking it with "herbs?"  Knowing the effects, how can you say that?  Yes, it calms them down to the point of lacking motivation and not experience the challenges in their life. Behavior modification (learning cause and effect,anger management, impulse control, etc.) has a life long positive effect.  Are you saying that being high day in and day out is a better alternative?  

I would like to understand your point of view on this.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2004, 09:07:00 PM »
Interesting message that just arrived in my mailbox:
Isn't it funny how material things and consumables have themselves become the "opiate of the masses" -- 'literally'! By literally I refer to recent research suggesting that refined carbohydrates, and especially refined carbs in combination with saturated fats, (i.e. about 80% of the typical American's diet), have distinct
opiate-like effects on the brain, and when withheld from addicted animals produce a withdrawal syndrome that is neurochemically indistinguishable from opiate withdrawal.
(Not to say that there are no differences; only important samenesses.)

Found the research:
http://www.eatingwell.com/articles_reci ... ction.html

Given that the number one killer is Heart Disease and 60% of americans are obese- seems we'd be putting our attention on this phenomena, which is a far greater threat to health and well being than smoking pot. Perhaps the government should come out with a War on Fat and Sugar, and declare them gateway drugs.
That about how ridiculous the War on Drugs is.

But no, instead our school lunches have deteriorated to junk food. Sodas and high sugar/fat/chemical snacks are available all day long from vending machines. Families don't eat nutritous meals together any more. The culture is deteriorating. Kids are being blamed for having an adverse reaction to the insanity around them. How wrong is that?

More on the Influence of Food on Behavior:
http://mizar5.com/spillingthebeans.html
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2004, 09:34:00 PM »
***Smoking weed helps? How? Can a teenager really learn to work with their ADD by masking it with "herbs?" Knowing the effects, how can you say that?

Can one learn to work with their 'ADD' when its masked with speed (ritalin, adderall, etc)? I personally believe that THC is a much more effective and safe alternative. And btw, ADD is not a disease. It is wholely a subjective diagnosis made by observation. No disordered brain chemicals, no heriditary factors. No test to prove its existence. And by labeling a kid ADD, the kid and particularly the parent is off the hook to teach social skills and improve their parenting skills and relationship with their child.

***Yes, it calms them down to the point of lacking motivation and not experience the challenges in their life.

That is not necessarily the case. I knew a young woman who lived with a foster parent who allowed her to smoke every night because it allowed her to focus on the mundane and boring homework she was required to do. I have known others that actually become energetic and creative when they've smoked. The people I've known who get 'down' and 'unmotivated' were dealing with some heavy distress- my observation is that they had very low self-esteem and were basically unhappy with their life. The pot did not cause this. It did provided them temporary relief from constant self ridicule though, and didn't damage their organs in the process.
One person I knew had chronic back pain that surgery didn't repair. He also had low self esteem. Smoking did lift his spirits and provide relief from the pain. Again, I'd rather him smoke pot than get addicted to Oxycontin (sp?)

***Behavior modification (learning cause and effect,anger management, impulse control, etc.) has a life long positive effect. Are you saying that being high day in and day out is a better alternative?

I am all about moderation. EVERYTHING in moderation. I think there is a time and place for just about anything someone wants to do, short of infringing on the rights and well being of another human being. I am not an advocate of BM. It doesn't work long-term. There is a thread on that topic. Scroll down the forum list to find it.

Do you think that all pot smokers are high day in and day out? I do know that 1 in 5 people (conservative) are taking some kind of psychotropic drug with potentially deadly side-effects and which are highly addictive. Do I think a toke or two everyday is better? You bet!

And all the while, the ignorant masses are sitting by drugging themselves with food and legal/illegal drugs, unaware of the deterioration of our culture and unable to act or advocate for something better because they are so removed from remembering what it means to be human. Do any of you notice just how fucked up it has become? Or does everything look just fine to you? Do you think your teens don't see this, and react to it? I believe its increasingly harder for the average person to be in this culture in an unaltered state. Some choose the legal drugs hawked by bigpharma, other prefer the benign natural variety. It should be their right to do so.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2004, 10:07:00 PM »
Given a choice between pharmaceutical meds,street drugs, marijuana or behavior modification, I would choose behavior modification.  It does work for those who choose to.  Smoking weed is the easy way out.  I talk with my kids about drugs, been to a head shop, and I'm aware of what's out there.  I chose to become educated.  It's a much different thing than when I was a teen.  

I agree in the medical uses for marijuana - cancer pain, glaucoma, but not for ADD.
 
Hey son, lets go smoke some weed together so you can get an A in Science this week and I can get some housework done........
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2004, 10:13:00 PM »
Here's another excellent article from Dr. Andrew Weil which should give you some insight into the relative safety of the use of marijuana.

http://deoxy.org/pdfa/marijuana.htm
Excerpt:
Since marijuana has no clinically significant action on lower brain centers, compensation can reach 100 percent with practice.

These considerations mean that there are no answers to questions like, What does marijuana do to driving ability? The only possible answer is, It depends. It depends on the person - whether he is a marijuana user, whether he has practiced driving while under the influence of marijuana. In speaking to legislative and medical groups, I have stated a personal reaction to this question in the form of the decision I would make if I were given the choice of riding with one of the following four drivers:

1-a person who had never smoked marijuana before and just had;

2-a marijuana smoker who had never driven while high and was just about to;

3-a high marijuana smoker who had practiced driving while high; and

4-person with any amount of alcohol in him.

I would unhesitatingly take driver number three as the best possible risk. One may wonder how many drivers of types one and two are on our highways. Probably many. But there is some consolation in the fact that persons learning to do things under the influence of marijuana almost always are anxious about their performance and therefore tend to err on the side of overcaution.

There is talk of "Driving While Stoned" laws, meanwhile, we have many unsafe drivers who are taking mind-altering legal drugs on the road, who are much more dangerous.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2004, 11:07:00 PM »
I know the story Deborah's talking about treating ADHD w/ MJ (not isolated THC, but whole herb) Here's some documentation on that. http://www.wamm.org/research.htm


Note that the kid doesn't know that his pills contain cannabis. His mother and an aunt or grandmother bake and grind the herb and stuff it into gel caps while he's away at school.

As I understand it, whatever this kid's problem, it wasn't imaginary, he has a very real problem. As for being buzzed all the time, any experienced pot smoker will tell you that you have to put it down once in awhile or you won't get a buzz anymore. Whatever. Maybe he is feeling quite euphoric but it doesn't seem to be interfering w/ his functioning any. If it works, don't fix it!

Oh, and there are over 200 medically active compounds (drugs) in cannabis. THC is the big superstar because that's the one compound the spooks thought would lead to their wet dream of a truth serum so it's the only one that has been closely studied w/ government funding.

As for the myth of amotivational syndrome, talk to me when you make it into the NFL Hall Of Fame like Anonymity Anonymous
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2004, 11:14:00 PM »
***Given a choice between pharmaceutical meds,street drugs, marijuana or behavior modification, I would choose behavior modification.

And you think that BM is not an external control? Research shows that it is not a long-term solution to anyone's problems, and detrimental if punishment is overused. It doesn't address a person's lack of peace, which underlies the 'undesirable' behavior.
Do you BM yourself? Do you reward or punish yourself? Do you give other family members permission to punish you when you fall short of your/their expectations?

***It's a much different thing than when I was a teen.

Not from my perspective. Many more people were dying from drug overdoses in the 60s and 70s. I actually see a vast improvement in the situation.

***I agree in the medical uses for marijuana - cancer pain, glaucoma, but not for ADD. Hey son, lets go smoke some weed together so you can get an A in Science this week and I can get some housework done........

There are many ways to administer THC other than smoking. One might slow cook the herb in butter, strain and use the butter to prepare foods.
Scientists are not advocating that people smoke pot with their 'ADD' child. If/when THC becomes available it will be in pill form of course, and with any luck it will be the genuine article and not some laboratory chemical knock-off that they'll charge megabucks for, with some undesirable side effects- like Valium.

Ultimately, there are many issues that need to be explored when a child lacks attention- vision, diet, food allergies, learning environment, boredom, parenting, family dynamics, real and perceived fears. The list goes on. Many kids are diagnosed with this dreaded scurge who have legitimate medical conditions and/or dysfunctional homes and/or the need for a different learning environment. Same applies to any child who is acting out some underlying distress. To ignore the root cause of the 'problem' is disrespectful. To punish their reaction to a toxic world and relationships is disrespectful.
To rip a child from their family and incarcerate him/her is the ultimate disrespect.
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2004, 08:13:00 AM »
I have been smoking pot for over 31 years.  I quit when my parents entered me into straight, but started smoking and eating pot again about 4 years after I graduated from the program.   My life is successful, as is my marriage.   I am a college graduate with two degrees; I have worked in public service for over 15 years.  I am now a small business owner with more work coming my way than I ever thought possible.  I am not lazy.  I work about 10-15 hours /day.  I am financially succesful and love life.  I do not drink alcohol, I do not use any other drugs.   Pot has not led me to other drugs at all.  The research you "quote" is not correct.   If it is correct, then why afte 30+ years of smoking pot am I not "dead, insane or in jail" as the program parents like to recite?   Why have I not used other drugs?   Maybe because pot isn't a gateway drug as you like to think.  I suggest that you think for yourself and not continue to let others do it for you.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2004, 09:10:00 AM »
Here's some of the latest on pharmaceutical mj worldwide:

http://www.gwpharm.com/

Note that they're focusing on more than THC and using whole herb extracts.

An Animated Cartoon Theology:
1. People are animals.
2. The body is mortal and subject to incredible pain.
3. Life is antagonistic to the living.
4. The flesh can be sawed, crushed, frozen, stretched, burned, bombed, and plucked for music.
5. The dumb are abused by the smart and the smart destroyed by their own cunning.
6. The small are tortured by the large and the large destroyed by their own momentum.
7. We are able to walk on air, but only as long as our illusion supports us.
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2004, 07:53:00 PM »
Pot causes Anxiety in users after much usage. Ask Dr. drew pinsky  host of lovelines  by going to the website and asking him a question  and you can listen to his show anywhere in america as it is nationally syndicated with co host adam corrolla   check the web  or your radio  in the evening.  if we could legalize pot and tax it we would have enough money to house every senior in america and free up jobs and space in public housing they are taking.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2004, 09:31:00 PM »
No drug at equivalent doses causes *anything* in all users.  

This is why the notion of good drugs and bad drugs is so silly.

Some people benefit from Ritalin; some don't.  Some benefit from marijuana, some don't.  Some benefit from antidepressants; some don't. Some benefit from Oxycontin, some don't.  Some benefit from methadone... etc. All depends on the person and their particular problems (and in some cases, in how the drugs are regulated).
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