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« on: September 17, 2004, 07:22:00 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWASP USED to be a very informative article about Tranquility bay, now its just fucking propaganda and free advertising.

WHAT moron at wikipedia deleted the previous article and put that shit up? ARGH.

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2004, 07:24:00 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?ti ... id=5933301

I found the old version still in the wiki. This is really underhanded bullshit on the part of those damn wwaspies. Seriously, seriously lame. What, can't handle Mexico so you're going after wikipedia?

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2004, 11:49:00 AM »
So replace it with the old page and keep up with them. Matter of fact, back it up at a place where WWASP doesn't have access so everyone can go back to that page and copy it back into WikiPedia.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2004, 08:09:00 PM »
There is a record (history) of all old versions, so no need to worry. Just copy and paste.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2004, 05:30:00 AM »
Wikipedia's little troll got owned:

Please stop replacing WWASP with a press release, or I will have to block you from editing. If you have serious contributions to make or rebuttals to add, feel free to do so, or comment on the discussion page.--Eloquence*

By the way, because he was anonymous, his IP address was used to identify him - specifically,  209.33.211.198

A quick DNS revealed... 209-33-211-198.sg-wireless.infowest.net. Anyone know how to track down this joker? Seriously.

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2004, 05:46:00 PM »
Infowest says it all. Teen Help and Adolescent Services Intl were first hosted at InfoWest and Narvin Lichfield as well as Ken Kay had email addresses that were infowest.com. Some Google searches should prove that. It's obviously someone from one of those companies.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2004, 08:47:00 AM »
lol calm down my niggger you crazy :wave:
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2004, 09:23:00 AM »
Not only does InfoWest share a zip code with WWASP but a search on its registration reveals that the InfoWest name has been recycled four times.  Sound familiar?  The name is somewhat reminiscent of SkyWest too isn't it?

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2004, 11:13:00 AM »
What's SkyWest?

When elephants ? ght, it is the grass that suffers.

http://jonathangullible.com/translations/UK_Comnt040222.pdf' target='_new'>Kikuyu proverb

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2004, 11:43:00 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2004, 12:01:00 PM »
http://www.nospank.net/n-d77.htm
Last paragraph re. J. Ralph Atkin

    The Prague Post, December 11, 1998

    Morava Academy heads arrested before
    By Ladka Bauerova

    The American couple Glenda and Steven Roach, arrested last month in the Czech Republic on charges of illegal imprisonment and torture of the 57 teenagers found at Morava Academy, have a past marred by similar offenses. The couple has managed other illicit prison-like facilities for troubled American teens and been arrested in other foreign countries.

    According to U.S. social worker Donna Headrick and her research team, the couple was arrested May 1996 while running a girls' facility called Sunrise Beach on Mexico's Yucatan peninsula. After three teenage girls escaped from the institution and made complaints about sexual abuse, an immigration inspector visited the facility and found that the girls did not have the proper paperwork to be in the country. The inspectors also found poor sanitation standards and signs of abuse.

    Shortly thereafter, the staff with 41 girls were intercepted at the local airport trying to leave the country. Mexican federal police arrested the staff, including Steven and Glenda Roach, and charged them with depriving juveniles of their liberty and with running an unlicensed and unsanitary facility. As at Morava Academy, Sunrise Beach was shut down by police officials, and the couple eventually managed to leave Mexico.

    The Roaches are longtime employees of an organization called Teen Help. Based in Utah, Teen Help operates a network of institutions that promises to set problematic kids straight. While many parents and children have defended the program and claim it has changed their lives, others report horror stories and speak of the staff's brutal practices, including starvation, chemical burns, handcuffing and psychological abuse.

    "Kids are not treated well in these facilities. I saw horrible things," said Donna Burke, 48, from Houston, Texas. Her ex-husband sent their two sons to Tranquillity Bay, another of Teen Help's facilities in Jamaica. She told The Prague Post that in August 1997 an "escort service" -- two men hired by her ex-husband -- kidnapped her then-14-year-old son, Scott. "They handcuffed him and carried him out of the school screaming," she said.

    Three months later, the escort service came for her elder son David, now 17. "I was trying to get them back, but my ex-husband ran up my legal fees so high I finally had to give up."

    She went on describing the poor hygienic conditions and maltreatment of the children in the facility. "They take a shower with a hose, using only cold water," she said. During a surprise visit, she discovered that all the kids had ringworm.

    The staff attempted to treat the fungus, but with horrible results. "My younger son had scars from chemical burns," Burke said.

    Complaining to state authorities didn't help, she said: "The State Department people say, 'They're out of the country, there is nothing we can do.' One guy at the State Department told me straight to my face: 'We don't like to mess with rich people's kids.' " And rich they are, she added, since one year's tuition at Tranquillity Bay costs $38,000 (1.14 million Kc).

    After 13 months, Burke's older son David returned home, but his mother is distressed by his state of mental and physical health. "He's been brainwashed," she said. "We get in a fight every time we talk about the school, and he yells at me for fighting against it. And this is a boy who was begging, crying and pleading for me to take him home when I first visited him," Burke said.

    Cases where one parent places the child in a behavior-modification facility against the will of the other parent are not uncommon, according to social worker Headrick. "They have their children legally kidnapped," she said. "The people usually come in the middle of the night, wake the kid up, handcuff him and take him away."

    The Teen Help organization is part of a complicated network of companies and nonprofit organizations run mostly from La Verkin, a small community near St. George, Utah. They have at least eight behavior modification schools located in Mexico, Jamaica, Western Samoa, and the United States, Teen Help also operates several hospitals and other "service oriented" companies. One of them is Youth Transport Services (YTS) which, according to Headrick, does the kidnapping. Another organization, "Resources Realizations," runs seminars for parents who have placed their children in one of the Teen Help schools. Before taking part in the seminars, participants must sign a confidentiality clause.

    About a year ago, Teen Help established a nonprofit organization called World Wide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP). Its Web page provides little information and its president, Karr Farnsworth, who visited the Czech Republic during the Morava Academy crisis last month, refused to reveal details other than saying it is the umbrella organization of the Teen Help facilities. In an interview for a Utah newspaper, he compared the Czech police to the Soviet KGB, adding that Czech police don't like Americans.

    One WWASP partner, attorney J. Ralph Atkin, is also registered as a majority owner of Morava Academy and an owner of EuroSky Airlines, which provides special flights to selected European cities including Vienna -- only two hours away by car from Morava Academy.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2004, 10:01:00 PM »
Glenda Gabriel - editor of WWASP's "The Source" magazine(sent to parents with children in the program),was previously Glenda Ikuta was previously Glenda Roach???
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2004, 01:59:00 AM »
That lady uses numerous names and aliases.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2004, 11:28:00 AM »
If I'm not mistaken - the same Glenda & Steve were working at Cross Creek Manor when I was there (Nov. '97-May '99).  They were both in their 40s & Glenda was a white woman, and Steve was Pacific Islander, right? Am I thinking of the same people?
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2004, 02:16:00 PM »
Kelly,

Were you almost 19 years old when you left Cross Creek Manor?  I am just curious.  How did your parents convince you to stay past 18 when you were an adult?  I ask this because a former friend kept her daughter at Cross Creek until she was almost 19.  Then, when the poor kid finished the program, her mother still would not allow her to return home.  She was to live with her therapist and go to Dixi Junior College.  I know what her mother told her to make her remain at Cross Creek for nearly a year longer and I want to see if there were any similarities.

Thank you.

          Janet
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