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« on: April 02, 2004, 04:25:00 PM »
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FAMILY VISITATION

Our philosophy is, "the more the merrier." We don't practice restrictions on visits between parents and their son in any way; in fact we encourage it! The same philosophy applies to phone calls, letters & packages, and e-mails. The amount of time a family spends with their son is completely up to the parents and the student.
http://www.abundantlifeacademy.com/about.php


Not long ago, I thought Craig mentioned that the kids don't get these "priviledges" right away, but have to earn them. Well, which is it?

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2004, 07:18:00 PM »
Thank you Ginger for asking.

The family can visit any time they want. There are some limitations on phone use, for purely practical reasons. Its not an earned "priviledge" as with some programs.
Trips into town,  movies, things like that, are earned.
It is an open door program.
You once asked what keeps the kids from taking off.
Nothing.
Sometimes they do. Its a risk the parents need to consider; weather their kid might take off.
They have so far come back of their own accord.
They just walk back in the door they walked out of; or call and say come pick me up please.
This is an excelent program for the right kid; and they don't bilk famlies by keeping kids they realize they can't help.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2004, 07:25:00 PM »
Are you saying that ALA just "lets" the kids leave?  That's putting them in a very dangerous situation, don't you think?  These are not responsible thinking kids.  They are kids that are in a program for a reason.  Freedom to just walk out may not have had any consequences yet, but think about it.  Since escorts are sometimes used, that tells me that the kids aren't agreeing to go, otherwise the parents would take them.  Quit sugar-coating Karen.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2004, 07:26:00 PM »
And what about the kids who arrive by "escort"? It just doesn't make sense to believe that they have to be shanghied from their beds at night, but the next day they're willing participants.
 

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2004, 08:33:00 PM »
I assume staff would intervine apropreatly if they knew the kids where planning to run; but its not a locked down place. They can take off. Again, its a risk factor parents need to consider. But even if they do run, they are in a much safer place than the average American city.
As for the escorts; I am not aware of this being a common thing with ALA students. I only recall one dad mentioning an escort; and on that occassion I was under the impression it was not  the kind of situation you think of when you think of escorting; but was more to serve as company and supervision on the trip.

BYW - the town, Ajijic, got a write up in this months AARP magizene.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2004, 08:52:00 PM »
?????????   :???:
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2004, 09:16:00 PM »
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On 2004-04-02 17:33:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I assume staff would intervine apropreatly if they knew the kids where planning to run; but its not a locked down place. They can take off. Again, its a risk factor parents need to consider. But even if they do run, they are in a much safer place than the average American city.

As for the escorts; I am not aware of this being a common thing with ALA students. I only recall one dad mentioning an escort; and on that occassion I was under the impression it was not  the kind of situation you think of when you think of escorting; but was more to serve as company and supervision on the trip.



BYW - the town, Ajijic, got a write up in this months AARP magizene.

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Karen, it would be very helpful if you would answer questions based on your understanding of the FACTS, not HEARSAY.  

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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2004, 10:57:00 PM »
Doing the best I'm able. I know its not good enough; never is.
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2004, 11:48:00 PM »
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On 2004-04-02 19:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Doing the best I'm able. I know its not good enough; never is. "


Well, now you know how it feels to be a "teen" who no matter how hard they try, their parents still think they can do better ... IN A PROGRAM, that is!

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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2004, 01:11:00 AM »
No shit! What have you got to lose, anonymous martyr?? Your seat at the Thanksgiving table? Your education? Your beloved dog? Hell no! All you have invested here is whatever stock you might put in the opinions of relatively anonymous strangers

Walk a mile in my shoes!

It takes a thousand voices.

Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice.



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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2004, 01:46:00 AM »
WHAT DOES Ajijic HAVE TO DO WITH ST GEORGE UTAH?  

Does ALA send their "charges" out into St. George and try to convert the mainly Mormon community as their community service activities?   :rofl:
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2004, 02:13:00 AM »
Holy shit! Are these the 12 guys featured in the court/media ring as "The Street Preachers"?

Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2004, 08:54:00 AM »
"WHAT DOES Ajijic HAVE TO DO WITH ST GEORGE UTAH? "

Nothing. No one said it did. This thread isn't about St George Ut.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2004, 12:43:00 PM »
Isn't Abundant Life Academy (ALA) in St. George Utah?
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2004, 01:31:00 PM »
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Well, now you know how it feels to be a "teen" who no matter how hard they try, their parents still think they can do better ... IN A PROGRAM, that is! [/quote]

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To clarify ... this post was meant to underscore to Karen that teens (just like adults) don't always measure up to the expectations and demands of others, but unfortunately, it is the teen who gets sent away under the guise of "helping" them to do better.  It's truly unfair and unjust. Parents should not be allowed to lock their kids up as the answer to controlling or changing unwanted behavior. Nobody does that to parents. In fact they only way parents can lose their liberty is if they are convicted on a crime and sentenced by the justice system to jail.

Ginger, hope that clears things up ..

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