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« Reply #120 on: March 28, 2004, 09:50:00 AM »
"Clearly, there is a reason why the state of Utah mandates licensed facilities to have two, not one, staff member on duty at all times."

What then, should be the punishment suitable for the State of Utah as an entity, and for its hired lackeys, who were paid by the citizens of the state to enforce these rules - but didn't?

Why was the MLSA facility not shut down on 10 March 2003, one year PRIOR to the murder, when an inspection by the state of Utah revealed 15 violations of Utah law?  - rather than closing the facility 5 days AFTER the murder was committed?

How many murders does it take for the State Of Utah to pull its collective head out of its collective ass?

Is murder in Utah accounted for like mouse turds in a soup can: "up to [this many] is OK, but more than [that number] is not" ?   What is that number?
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« Reply #121 on: March 28, 2004, 10:45:00 AM »
"State-sanctioned murder" is the ultimate crime against its citizens.

"State-sanctioned murder" is an outrage against the people.

"State-sanctioned murder" is, a priori, "terrorism" of the worst kind.

"State-sanctioned murder", when committed in collusion with the owners of facilties like this is the ultimate criminal conspiracy, and the ultimate state-perpetrated fraud against the people.

Heads of state agencies who through their gross negligence facilitated, and aided and abetted this murder, and who ran their agencies with reckless abandon and with utter disregard for human life, are, by definition, 'terrorists'.

Will they be demoted? or promoted?  Surely, they'll not face any firing squad...[run by the state...]

What is the 'legislative value' of human life in Utah?

If the rules-enforcers won't enforce the rules, who's left to do that?  

How more agregiously can the compact between the people and the state be broken than by an event like this?

What is the last line of defense citizens have against criminals - if those who have the exclusive power to enforce the rules, won't?

What is the appropriate punishment for those who had the mandate and the power to enforce the rules - but (obviously) chose not to?

How culpable were the owners, operators, Directors, and the members of the Board of Directors of the MLSA facility in this murder?

What is an appropriate punishment for them?
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« Reply #122 on: March 28, 2004, 12:24:00 PM »
Three Words:

WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY

http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.c ... erapy.html

The lessons are not being learned.  10 years after the death of Aaron Bacon, in Escalante, Utah.  

Who is ultimately responsible for the safety of staff members?  The owners/operators.  No two ways about it.
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« Reply #123 on: March 28, 2004, 12:31:00 PM »
The dirty little secret of states colluding with group home owners in the placement of incorrigible youth in unsecure facilities is a dirty little secret that needs to be exposed.

An "Anson Law" should be demanded:

A law that specifies that owners, directors and state employees who do not protect the lives of the staff and counselors of "group homes" be fined and jailed so severely that they WILL enforce the laws they are paid to do.

When the various states pay the various group home owners tax money to house incorrigible kids in unsecure facilities and then conduct no oversight, too infrequent inspections, or do not insure adequate safety/security measures are in place, the states and the facility owners become co-conspirators in the criminal activities that must eventually occur.

An unsecure facility with no safety measures in place to protect the staff becomes a "constructive nuisance", [a death or serous injury waiting to happen] and as such the owners and operators and the state overseers become culpable in the subsequent disastrous events that occur there through their negligence.

How many murders of this type must occur before there is national reform?
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« Reply #124 on: March 28, 2004, 01:54:00 PM »
The owners, operators, Director, and some of the staff knew at least one day BEFORE the murder of Anson Arnett that a "break-out" was planned.  

Those clients who were known to be the ones who were going to try to break-out were moved from their usual bedroom to the living room where they were put on "High Watch" status (whatever that is...).  

BUT, even though some knew this and took these measures, the owner, Max Ah Quin, and Director, Adam Ah Quin, still put only one staff member on duty that night! - Anson Arnett.  (Even though it is against Utah law to have only one staff membmer on duty at ANY time.)

Adam Ah Quin, Director of the MLSA facility told the press that "he 'had a feeling' he should have taken that shift that night" (or something to that effect).  

Ya right - He knew goddamned well that that night was going to be a higher risk night than a normal night, and yet he put only one staff membmer on duty that night.  And when the two eyewitnesses ran to his home to get help from him, he was not home!

Where the hell was Adam Ah Quin when he knew the facility was going to be under siege and he had only one staff membmer, Anson Arnett, on duty?

Sean Graham's step-sister/lover posted here that SHE knew at least two days BEFORE the murder that he was pissed about not being able to get out and go see her when originally scheduled, and that he was so insensed about it that he would not let anything get in his way.

She was in NH/Deleware(?) and he was in Utah.  

How many others across the nation knew about the planned "jailbreak of 8 March 2004", that resulted in the murder of Anson Arnett?

How many more goddamned shitheads are there in this country that are culpable in this murder?

Ya suppose the Ah Quins called the state and told them too?  "Hey guys, there's going to be a jail break tonight; make sure you're out of town and the phone's off the hook"!

Rotten f**king bastards...
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« Reply #125 on: March 28, 2004, 04:36:00 PM »
"Or - the vic was a brutal bastard when no one was looking, and had it coming.

NO telling at this point.

But I do feel sure the bat was there so the boys could play ball; and this is not unusual in a family group home type of program."

Ya, shithead; there IS telling at this point; the 'vic' was NOT a brutal bastard; he gave his life trying to help those killers.
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« Reply #126 on: March 28, 2004, 04:58:00 PM »
Why in God's name didn't the kids who ran for help think to call 911 from a neighbor's home instead of running all the way to the director's home (who wasn't even there)?  If help had arrived sooner instead of taking an hour and a half, could Anson have survived?  Also, what statements have the other boys given about what they witnessed that night?  Is this info going to be made public?  Lastly, who ARE the AhQuin's anyway and what's their background in the teen help industry? Have they ever had any problems in the past?

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« Reply #127 on: March 28, 2004, 05:49:00 PM »
There are a lot of nagging little details about this story; things that just don't add up.

There were other kids in the house at the time, but no one tried to stop them? They left the guy hanging upside down in the closet, but none of the other boys took him down?

Here's a theory. Mind you, this is just a theory. I wasn't there, but I may have been in a somewhat similar situation.

The time I split from my mother's appartment, there were a couple of girls sleeping on the fold out bed, pretty much in front of the door (you had to squeeze by, but it could be done) and a couple more locked in the room w/ me. Getting past the lock wasn't a big problem, but I figured I'd probably wake someone up by opening the front door. But Program protocol dictated that, when a newcomer splits, they have to call staff before doing anything else. So, before I tried the front door, I took a phone off the hook and stuffed it under a pillow in a drawer.

Sure enough, just about the time I had the door open almost enough to slip out into the night, the hinge made a loud creek, the porch light seemed to flood the room and I heard someone shout "Oh shit! She's splitting!!" So I ran down the stairs, jumped past the last few and dove behind a bush to wait and see if anyone would run out immediately. They didn't. They were too busy trying to figure out what to do since the phone was dead, giving me plenty of time to make it all the way accross the appartment complex and into the ditch along the back of the property.

Maybe these boys didn't do the normal things you would expect in such a situation because they were following a strict protocol.


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« Reply #128 on: March 28, 2004, 06:56:00 PM »
Word is, Sean Graham was the Alpha male, bigger, stronger, more fearsome than the rest; what he said was the law...

[look at the pics; he's no "kid"]

The others were scared shitless of him.  They did what he said, no ifs, ands, or buts

Jesse Simmons was a parolee from Maryland; drugs; shipped to Utah in violation of the National Interstate Compact Law.  (who all are complicit in THIS part of the deal???)

It was the Maryland Probation and Parole Officer (NOT the facility or its staff) who made the decision to not let them out on the scheduled release date because of cheating on the tests.

Neither killer should have been housed in a normal, unsecure home in a regular residental district with no security or redundant alarms or buddy system staffing.

Looks like the city, the county, and the state f**ked up - big!  

This was a murder waiting to happen.  It just took the right elements and it was a done deal.

Max Ah Quin (owner-of-record) is a former, full scholarship law student from BYU so he can't plead ignorance of the law...

And Adam Ah Quin (Director-of-Record) had prior knowledge of the planned break-out - and was conveniently gone when the murder occurred...

Sweet - huh?
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« Reply #129 on: March 28, 2004, 07:18:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-28 15:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

Neither killer should have been housed in a normal, unsecure home in a regular residental district with no security or redundant alarms or buddy system staffing.


If it had been anything like a normal, unsecure home, why did they have to do anything to anyone to get away? Why wouldn't they just walk away like so many ppl do from juvenile halfway houses and adult work release programs?

Here's a funny story. A girl named Kim was court ordered to Straight. Serious charge. She had been involved in some kinky group activities and had been the las one holding the whip before the girl died. And she was over 18. FWIW, having lived w/ Kim in several foster homes, I believe to this day it was an accident. She was built like a linebacker; could have easily squashed any two of us with one hand but never hurt or intimidated anyone in all the time I knew her.

Anyway, one day Kim decides she just can't take it any more. She picks up a table and uses it to smash through a plate glass window at her foster home and makes a run for it. The foster parents were going to file charges against her for it, but they couldn't or they would have had to explain why it was necessary for Kim to break a window to escape their home.

This could be a very interesting investigation.

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« Reply #130 on: March 28, 2004, 08:07:00 PM »
Here are the reasons why the group home's license was revoked by Utah's DHS on March 12, 2004 effective March 26, 2004:

1. MLSA failed to obtain agreement from the state of Delaware (not Maryland) in compliance with the National Interstate Compact Laws before accepting Jesse Simmons.

2. The group home failed to obtain criminal background clearances for Anson Arnett, Faa Taupau, Austin Beardall and Mona Kula before giving them direct access to children.  Director Adam AhQuin's background screening expired last September 2003.  It wasn't renewed.

3.  Only one employee was on duty the night of the incident and again the following day.  Two are required AT ALL TIMES.

These are the results of a DHS preliminary investigation.  Other rule violations may be added after the Cedar City Police Dept. release's the home's files enabling DHS to complete their own investigation.

According to news reports, ALL the boys were sent to MLSA by THEIR PARENTS, none had been sentenced there by a court.  

To date, no reason has been given as to why the 2 boys who ran for help did not attempt to get help from a neighbor.
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« Reply #131 on: March 28, 2004, 08:36:00 PM »
Authorities had to pry the locked closet door open.

How many locked closets do you have in your home?  

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« Reply #132 on: March 28, 2004, 09:14:00 PM »
"If it had been anything like a normal, unsecure home, why did they have to do anything to anyone to get away? Why wouldn't they just walk away like so many ppl do from juvenile halfway houses and adult work release programs? "

They could have; that's what makes the whole thing so sad - and criminal!  

While they were "kept there against their will", Arnett was not dumb.  He would NOT have tried to prevent their escape by physical force if they had asked him to step aside; it was not his job to physically restrain anyone.

"According to news reports, ALL the boys were sent to MLSA by THEIR PARENTS, none had been sentenced there by a court. "

Not quite: Simmons was "on probation" and was "put there by a Maryland Probation and Parole officer". It was the MP&PO that required that the test be passed prior to being released, and it was the MP&PO that rescheduled their release date for cheating on the test. [data provided by the State of Utah...]

The closet has a dead bolt, but the fit is so wide that it can be picked by a pocket knife...
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« Reply #133 on: March 28, 2004, 09:44:00 PM »
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""If it had been anything like a normal, unsecure home, why did they have to do anything to anyone to get away? Why wouldn't they just walk away like so many ppl do from juvenile halfway houses and adult work release programs? "



They could have; that's what makes the whole thing so sad - and criminal!  



While they were "kept there against their will", Arnett was not dumb.  He would NOT have tried to prevent their escape by physical force if they had asked him to step aside; it was not his job to physically restrain anyone.



"According to news reports, ALL the boys were sent to MLSA by THEIR PARENTS, none had been sentenced there by a court. "



Not quite: Simmons was "on probation" and was "put there by a Maryland Probation and Parole officer". It was the MP&PO that required that the test be passed prior to being released, and it was the MP&PO that rescheduled their release date for cheating on the test. [data provided by the State of Utah...]



The closet has a dead bolt, but the fit is so wide that it can be picked by a pocket knife...

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Anon, you seem to be privvy to info not available to the public.  My question to you is this, how is it that the state of Maryland is even involved with Jesse Simmons, who is from Delaware?  

Also, it does not appear anyone is taking responsibility for leaving Anson Arnett alone to care for 6 boys. Where was the Owner? The Director? The other counselors/staff?  Why wasn't one of them pulling the night shift with Anson, for his safety, the kid's, and of course, in obedience to the law?  

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« Reply #134 on: March 28, 2004, 10:19:00 PM »
(my source may have mispoken,) but the person did say "Maryland"

No one seems to be able to make contact with the owners of the facility...

Adam Ah Quin's home in Cedar City was listed For Sale with ERA Realty on the very day that the State of Utah revoked the MLSA license.

The Ah Quins have already tried to have the business license 'transferred' to a different address in Cedar City so they can continue business without having to be re-licensed.  The city attorney nixed that.

Their neighbors say they are also trying to reopen the existing facility as a "sex offendor" house.

The Ah Quins seem to be keeping pretty quiet regarding their roles in all this...

This tragedy is just in its beginning stages.
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