Whitmore Academy in Utah?

[Anonymous]

And yes I do know a lot about Cheryl, Inga, if you remember I was always with her, I was the one who used to have to do all of her "dirty work." You are being put in a really bad situation by having to say these things. I don't blame you nor and I mad at you. These are just the things you have to do while you are under Cheryl's care. Its not like even if you didn't believe what you were saying you could say something different. I was always terriffied of group, so of course I would agree to Cheryl's face and do WHATEVER she told me to do. I'm just not the kind of person to live the rest of my life scared of her. When you get home I really hope you write again on this website and tell everyone how you feel then.

[Anonymous]

I believe that Cheryl should be in the position of teacher, counselor, but NEVER referred to as a mother. To me thats just degrating and putting down your real mother and adopted mother. I feel really bad that you had to go through this with you only having and adopted mother. I feel that if she didn't take care of you then you would be there. Im sure she loves you very much. I used to feel the same about my mom. But I think your teenage years are just really hard, and mothers and daughters do have peoblems. Now my mom and I are the best of friends. I know she loves me and cares about me a lot. Cheryl should never even have put you in the position to think of her as a mother. And yes, she does try and make it seem like, since you are all a family, then she is the mother mark is the father, etc. But the way they have it isn't like a family. I know that if I ever did any of the thing that I did while in the program, nobody in my family would have treated me like that. They would have helped me figure out another way to deal with it and then something I could do next time I was put in the situation. That is what a family is, they don't call you names, abuse you, manipulate you, set you up to fail, etc. You know what Im saying is true Inga. Please just think about how your real mother or adopted mother would feel if she read "Cheryl is the only mother I have." If I was you mother and there are a lot of other mother on this web site woould probably say, it would hurt them deeply.

[Anonymous]

i spent one fucking year at the whitmore and i know that most kids do not change. kids fake it till they leave the program. why do u think the kids that have been there a while do so well. they fake everything so they dont get into shit. about the fighting they dont try and stop it all the time. when cheryl gets mad enough she could give two fucks. group never solved shit either cause half the time no one knows what the fuck there talking about. like when a kid gets in trouble and they wont listen. they learn to listen real quick because they realize they can avoid a lot of shit that way. they just keep there anger supressed until they get out of the whitmore. they show parents a program that is sweet and loving but as soon as the parents are gone its over. i know because i fucking saw so i dont want anyone telling me that i dont know what im talking about. i saw all the shit that went on. kids werent clean there either. i knew tons of kids that had access to shit and got fucked up all the time off it. it's like you have to like the program cause if you dont or dont wanna be there u get hollered at right in ur face sorta screaming. or if you dont agree on her point of view. perhaps she's a little bi-polar loving one minute and a second later pissed as fuck. trust me when i say that that woman could make u feel worthless. i guess lots of practice. my question is does humiliation really help a kid?

[Anonymous]

I was also there ^^^^^ this is true

[Gmom]

To:  Anyone Who Has Something To Tell About Whitmore.

Please reply to me on "Private Messages" and tell me more about yourselves -- when you were there, etc.  I promise to keep everything you tell me confidential unless you tell me otherwise.

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Leah,
   This is Hannah.  I wrote something to you on another page please read it, this is stupid that you are saying the things that you are.  I might have agreed with you then but after October when you brought me back I learned a lot and I finally started to get my life together around Christmas and I don't want it to change.  We were good friends Leah but you lied to me all the time and you stabbed me in the back and I know that you did.  Well then also please don't put me in any of your postings, I don't like being talked about online.  Especially when people comment on things that weren't even there.  If you are going to say something then please dont be anonymous say who you are, if you are home and you say those things then why do you care?  Leah I really want to talk to you and I want things to be right between all of us, why do you have to go about it this way?  I know that you wanted to change because we had a long talk about it after the cruise and I know that I did not change then but you know that Cheryl did help you and you can't deny that.  For all the people who say that you shouldn't call Cheryl their Mother, but what you do not understand is that she has been a mother figure to me and has helped me so much in ways that I can't explain but you have to go through it to understand it.  Yes I have gone through some hard times but she has never given up on me and has always been there for me.  Please Leah stop talking about me and be real with me and stop calling my family because they don't need more crap in their lives, don't make them worry over nothing and you know it.  I don't want to be anywhere but here right now and that is the truth.  I came on here on my own without her telling me to because I feel like I have to defend myself and try to set my story straight.  If you have any questions about what happened with me in anything then ask me and not post it up on a forum.  And Joyce Harris I hate holding grudges but I think you are a terrible person and you know it inside of yourself and you are a very insecure person.  I have a great relationship with my family right now and leave them alone because they don't need this crap right now.  I have worked hard to get it back together so don't go accusing my relationship when you have no idea, only they do.  So that is all I have to say and please leave me out of future conversations.
-Hannah

[Anonymous]

Inga, you are defending your lives? From whom? What the heck is going on there? Is Miss Cheryl on one of her rampages again? Does someone need to call the Nephi police again to protect you kids?

[schacherer]

A reply to Hannah.
I know we had a long talk after the incident on the curise. But the only reason I said all of that stuff was because I thought you would tell Cheryl, yes, I did lie to you, but it was because of Cheryl. We had many long talks when you weren't around. She told me how to act towards you, the same as she tells you to act towards me now. If you don't ever want to talk to me then that's fine. The only reason I called your family was because I was worried. I care about you. You were my best friend. We confided to eachother. The only thing thats different between you and I is the fact that Cheryl got through to you and I was just strong enough to know what was right. I never believed anything Cheryl told me. I would only go along with it so that there wasn't group on me. And you know as well as I do and as well as everyone else, that I am telling the truth everything I have posted is true. I know Cheryl has put you up to this, or maybe she didn't need to because she "got you." She has sucked you into her deep hole. I just wish you could realize that what she is doing, not only to you but the rest of the kids in the program is wrong. I know when I was there the things that happened became normal, and I thought for a while that a family was like that, but now that I am out, living on my own, having my own family, it is a lot different. Yes, in a way Cheryl did help me I guess you could say. I know now what I will never do to a child, or my own family. I know that I will never degrate or put anyone down in the ways she did to me and to others as well. I have also tried to call and talk to you and Cheryl won't let me speak with you. I have been trying to talk to you ever since you ran away. And I believe that Cheryl won't let us speak because before when we were friends in the program, I never let Cheryl get through to me. When we were friends I think I kind of got you on the right page, meaning not getting sucked into her vicious way of life. And just as I said before, when you get out of the program, write again on this website and tell all of us how you feel. I really hope you get to go home and be with your family in May. I hope to hear from you then.
Leah

[Joyce Harris]

Hannah, I have no idea why you would hold a grudge against me, or why you would think I am a terrible person.  You do not even know me at all;
and I have no idea why you would think I am an insecure person.  I have a wonderful family, and home and great security.  The only negative in my life is the Sudweeks and the horrendous abuse they put my daughter though at Whitmore Academy, and the sadness my daughter feels when she worries about you kids at Whitmore. I do not know your family, but I would think from some of the things posted on this site, that they would be seriously worried about you.  If you were my daughter I would be worried about you being viously beat up by Casie at the direction of the woman you refer to as "another mother figure" Cheryl Sudweeks. I would be worried about you observing your fellow students being humiliated in group sessions led by this "mother ffigure."  I would be worried about you having inadequate food, and not being allowed to eat breakfast and lunch on the days the Sudweeks take you kids to "buffet" for dinner.  I would be worried about your confessions in group about activties that your "mother figure" should help you with and not simply dismiss as she does.  

So, you don't know anything about me except the lies your "mother figure" has told about me. And, as things stand---I most certainly am not being investigated for child abuse, and I have never had the health department criticize my mansion of a home.

And I have never written ugly things about you, until you attempted in your very un-nice way to attack me.

So, please keep me out of your little Whitmore cat fights.

Joyce Harris

[Anonymous]

Leah,

You are talking directly to Cheryl. You don't think for one minute that that evil woman is letting Hannah read and write on this site do you?  You are smarter than that!

[Anonymous]

everyone just needs to chill the fuck out and get high. after everyone is stoned we can talk about this rationally.

[Anonymous]

WOW! What got Cheryl going tonight?  Bet those poor kids won't get a wink of sleep tonight. Sure glad my child is home, safe, asleep and well-fed, and not subjected to her ranting and raving all night while she plays therapist and torments kids who are at her mercy. I hate to even think about who she will go after. Who she will decide is the "scum of the earth" tonight.  Sure hope she doesn't decide to tell a group of those kids to "hey, get him out of here."  Everyone knows what that means.  WOW!

[schacherer]

I know Im just talking and Cheryl is probably right there, but Im okay with that because maybe by me talking something will happen maybe someone is thinking of sending their child here and if they read this it will help them to choose. Im just trying to help innocent kids out.
And I do believe that Hannah wrote that but Im also sure that Cheryl read it before it was posted on the forum to make sure it is okay. And I also ahve another question. Cheryl, if you are reading this which you and I both know that you are, why don't you stand up, be a woman, and defend yourself instead of hiding behind these kids? Isn't that what a "mother" would do. She would protect her kids, what you are doing is wrong. So please why don't you do us all a favor and "get a clue."

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-02-03 22:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

"WOW! What got Cheryl going tonight?  Bet those poor kids won't get a wink of sleep tonight. Sure glad my child is home, safe, asleep and well-fed, and not subjected to her ranting and raving all night while she plays therapist and torments kids who are at her mercy. I hate to even think about who she will go after. Who she will decide is the "scum of the earth" tonight.  Sure hope she doesn't decide to tell a group of those kids to "hey, get him out of here."  Everyone knows what that means.  WOW!"

Smacks of what we went through in Straight right down to the core.  Miller Newton "Get this girl the fuck outta my group" to some poor girl that dared to offend him in some way.  Having "group ON someone"???  Someone please explain this to me.  As Antigen said, sounds a lot like the 'come down' raps we used to have, no EXACTLY like them.  

Cheryl!!!  Please explain the therapeutic value in degrading and humiliating these kids!!!  And please explain why you leave THEM to defend YOU!!  Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Christian sect in horror.
--Francois Marie Arouet "Voltaire", French author and playwright

[schacherer]

On 2005-02-04 10:19:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:

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On 2005-02-03 22:06:00, Anonymous wrote:


"WOW! What got Cheryl going tonight?  Bet those poor kids won't get a wink of sleep tonight. Sure glad my child is home, safe, asleep and well-fed, and not subjected to her ranting and raving all night while she plays therapist and torments kids who are at her mercy. I hate to even think about who she will go after. Who she will decide is the "scum of the earth" tonight.  Sure hope she doesn't decide to tell a group of those kids to "hey, get him out of here."  Everyone knows what that means.  WOW!"

Smacks of what we went through in Straight right down to the core.  Miller Newton "Get this girl the fuck outta my group" to some poor girl that dared to offend him in some way.  Having "group ON someone"???  Someone please explain this to me.  As Antigen said, sounds a lot like the 'come down' raps we used to have, no EXACTLY like them.  



Cheryl!!!  Please explain the therapeutic value in degrading and humiliating these kids!!!  And please explain why you leave THEM to defend YOU!!  Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Christian sect in horror.
--Francois Marie Arouet "Voltaire", French author and playwright

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Having "group on you" means everyone sits down in a room and Cheryl brings up what you did wrong, whatever it may be, and I mean anything. After you give a tiny explination she makes you give details of everything. Then all the kids "express themselves" to you, and its supposed to help you and the other kids. When group is on you, you can't really defend yourself because you have all the kids yelling in your face, calling you names, telling you how stupid you are. Also if Cheryl is really heated about what you did wrong, she is the one "expressing herself" to you. And for me once it was more than just her talking.