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« Reply #435 on: February 14, 2005, 01:17:00 PM »
HELLO!!! nothing you just wrote made any sense whatsoever??????????????

Anyway:  Happy Valentine's Day
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« Reply #436 on: February 14, 2005, 04:47:00 PM »
Was one of the courses taught at Whitmore titled "how to use crude stupid cuss words?"

Can you spell any other 4 letter words?

You kids need to stop!
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« Reply #437 on: February 14, 2005, 04:58:00 PM »
FUCK
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« Reply #438 on: February 14, 2005, 05:30:00 PM »
Cute!
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« Reply #439 on: February 14, 2005, 07:19:00 PM »
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"Was one of the courses taught at Whitmore titled "how to use crude stupid cuss words?"



Can you spell any other 4 letter words?



You kids need to stop!"


Pathetic. You need to stop. Now you're going to pin fould language on the Whitmore? I hear 13 year olds at the mall that swear more than me.
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« Reply #440 on: February 14, 2005, 10:04:00 PM »
who gives a FUCKING FUCK
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« Reply #441 on: February 14, 2005, 10:04:00 PM »
by the way FUCK
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« Reply #442 on: February 15, 2005, 11:35:00 PM »
Guess the word of the day is "fuck."

Has anybody noticed that the web site:
Who Am I Discovery is not around any longer?

Wonder Why???

Think maybe SOMEONE told the Sudweeks it's not "cool" to have a website that says they have schools in Canada and Mexico when they DON'T?

Or it's not "cool" to say they have an Equine Therapy Horse Program with an employee trained by Monty Roberts, "The Horse Whisperer?"

Or it's not "cool" to say they are FULLY ACCRETITED when they're NOT?

Maybe the Sudweeks are just re-writing it to state what kind of kids they really enroll---those that DO have a history of violence...drug addicts...gang members.

Just a little more information to really inform parents what Whitmore is all about.

Maybe they will delete all that part that says they DON'T USE PHYSICAL PUNISHMENT...

Just wondering.
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« Reply #443 on: February 16, 2005, 12:29:00 PM »
screw you. seriously, I mean come on! Were you even there? and if you were then you would know that there was absolutely no physical abuse. I don't hear you people bitching at your child's public school every time that a fight breaks out there. Why is that? Do you people have no lives because if you did then why would you take the time out of your day to complain about the Whitmore? and for you ignorant people out there who don't know what a "residential treatment center" or a "behavior modification facility" is then let me try and educate you. The Whitmore is there to help kids in need and have trouble, are there substance abusers there??? The answer is yes. Why??? because you want your kids to be healthy and happy they in one way or another they are doing these things because there is something in there life that they might not want to deal with.
    Are there gang members there?
The answer is no. Honestly people, lets think about this here. If gang members have only friends as there family then there has got to be no parents or parents that don't care so who would even think about bringing them there?
    Are there people with a history of violence?
The answer is yes, and no. Do you really think that Mark and Cheryl would put their childeren's lives let alone their own and other kids' lives on the line? Heres where the word "behavior modification" comes in. This modifies the behavior of some of the kids. Yea some of them go in there angry and may want to flip but it doesn't get to that point. So before you people criticize any one else take a second to look at yourself and realize your flaws and try to fix them because the kids at the Whitmore are doing there best to fix themselves for the better and all you people are doing is trying to distract them with stupid nonesense. your kids are safe! I went there!!! I was a kid there! my parnets love the way i am now and if your parents have concerns about your child going there, or people have a problem with this letter then you can email me at CBNRI4lyph@hotmail.com
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« Reply #444 on: February 16, 2005, 01:36:00 PM »
I'm sorry, but there are those that have opinions and experiences different than yours.  There is a gang memeber there. There are violent kids there. the whole point that you are missing is that the Sudweeks advertised and contracted certain things that they did not provide.  Plain and simple.  I really don't think you know how each and every contract reads, and maybe you're not aware of what other people experienced.  You have a right to your opinion, but so does everyone else.  Sounds to me like the behavior modification didn't work too well for you.  I detect a lot of anger.
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« Reply #445 on: February 16, 2005, 02:14:00 PM »
One thing I want to tell you guys, you angry ppl making threats. You probably don't have any real idea what the Sudweeks and the edcons tell the parents. I understand that you probably either take their word for it or pretend to. Been there and I did and would do just exactly the same. No blame there.

But I've heard the same complaint from numerous families now over the years. Not just the families of Whitmore kids, but from a lot of the programs going all the way back to The Seed in 1971.

While we were unable to communicate w/ our families, we were told that whatever they did to us was our own fault. "You did the necessary things...." was a mantra which was often followed by just exactly the type of language and disparagment that I've seen you kids use against each other. It's hard to watch, but I think I understand.

What I didn't know then, not for many, many years later when I finally had an itch to look up other program people, is that they were not telling the parents exactly the same thing. They were telling the parents whatever they wanted to hear until they could gain enough influence over them to get them to go along w/ the program.

So when one after another of these parents come along and tell us that they were told something vastly different from what was going on, I tend to believe them. And when you kids respond w/ such rage and indignation, I understand that too. But you can't all be right and you can't all be wrong. I would suggest that you figure out a way to speak privately w/ your parents and ask them what they've been told and sold and you see for yourself whether or not the stories add up.

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« Reply #446 on: February 16, 2005, 02:34:00 PM »
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"I'm sorry, but there are those that have opinions and experiences different than yours.  There is a gang memeber there. There are violent kids there. the whole point that you are missing is that the Sudweeks advertised and contracted certain things that they did not provide.  Plain and simple.  I really don't think you know how each and every contract reads, and maybe you're not aware of what other people experienced.  You have a right to your opinion, but so does everyone else.  Sounds to me like the behavior modification didn't work too well for you.  I detect a lot of anger."


You're sweet granddaughter was trying to have sex with that gangmember for months.
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« Reply #447 on: February 16, 2005, 03:20:00 PM »
That is really not what I am concerned about.  What I am concerned about is that he is there at all.  Didn't you say in your last post that there weren't any gang members, and now you're saying my granddaughter was "trying to have sex with that gang member"?  

I know that there were opportunities for kids to have sex.  Why is that, if, as stated in the contract, the kids were supposed to have adult supervision?  There was one of the girls that got pregnant, while under this so-called supervision.

I think you are still missing the point!  My granddaughter was a minor in the care, supposedly, of qualified adults.  I do not believe that was true.  That is part of what we paid for.  Tell me again who the liars are.
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« Reply #448 on: February 16, 2005, 03:21:00 PM »
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You're sweet granddaughter was trying to have sex with that gangmember for months."


Oh dear God NOOOO! A teenaged girl away from home and family trying to attract romanic attention from a tough young guy? Raise the terror alert! Call out the national guard! Run for cover, this is Trouble w/ a capital T that rhymes w/ P that stands for .....

PuhleeeeZ!!   :roll:

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« Reply #449 on: February 16, 2005, 04:41:00 PM »
ok this is the person who wrote idiocy. the thing is yea some things aren't right there but other things were. who is perfect??? and you know what i am a lot more calm than i used to be I dont use intimidation anymore and everyone gets angry here and there so i think im entitled to be angry. It's just the kids are trying to help themselves and figure out what went wrong but the parents keep interfering and I think it's wrong. I totally understand that parents want to talk to their children but nagging them and trying to talk to mark and cheryl when they have other things to tend to is unreasonable. 40 kids and one or 2 parents each... thats 75-80 parents they talk to. did they send there kid to the whitmore to get help? if so... and they all talk to mark or cheryl... where is the time for the kids??? and who is this "gangmember" you all are talking about i went there almost a year ago and to this day i know exactly what  is going on. there is no "gang member"
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