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« Reply #270 on: January 22, 2005, 12:50:00 PM »
Also as far as sleep goes... sleep was probably the only legitimate issue at whitmore. when the winter season started we were waking up at around 7:30 everyday, however, some of the girls decided they wanted to wake up at 4:30 to work out in the other building. (it had to be that early because they had to do it before the radio shack below the school room opened) After that the 430 thing just turned into an everyday thing. The sleep sucked, but I find it funny that each time Erica talks about these marathon groups, and believe me they did happn, she fails to tell you that if a group ever went to even midnight we'd sleep in the next day. EVERY time. i think thats a pretty big detail to leave out.
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« Reply #271 on: January 22, 2005, 12:52:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-22 09:46:00, Anonymous wrote: To be honest, they didnt really have many options as far as the license goes.


Explain please.
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« Reply #272 on: January 22, 2005, 03:01:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-21 14:43:00, Anonymous wrote:

You stay for a period of one year, and then simply go home.

Do Cheryl and Mark and/or the other kids have anything to say about it? Can a kid who just got there (during the first month or two when they're not permitted to talk to their parents) simply decide to leave and go?

Anybody else, Erica or Joyce, have any insight here?

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Often times some kids parents cant make it... which is why other parents often invite other kids to come with them.


That just doesn't make any sense! I'm tellin' ya, if I hadn't seen my kid for 8 months and had limited contact with her, there's no way in hell I'd give up that rare few hours between travel and group activities to have some other kid hanging around. Especially when you consider the nature of the past 8 months. First WWASP then another transport to another very unusual "school"? No way in hell I'd stand for that.

Know what I think? I think it's very similar to the way they did it at The Seed and Straight. Whenever an out of town kid got to go home for the weekend for the first couple of times, they'd always send another kid on a higher phase for "moral support". I was an out of town kid, so I was very often the one to do that. It was not stated outright, but the new kid knew very, very well that I was watching and would report any misstep.

So what about the frequent calls to Cheryl that this mother talks about? Why in the world would this kid check in w/ Cheryl every few hours while he's supposed to be spending quality time w/ his parents after 8 months seperation? Does Cheryl not trust the parents? What? That just doesn't make any kind of sense.

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« Reply #273 on: January 22, 2005, 05:31:00 PM »
Hello Everyone,
I have been watching and reading this site for the past week.  As a parent of a teen who just recently returned from his stay at the Whitmore, I have so many mixed feelings and emotions.  Perhaps it is time I express some of what I am feeling.  

How can I put the past year's emotions into a few paragraphs?  Even more how do I describe the past 18 years with my son?  I can only try to relate the past year my son spent at The Whitmore.

There is a part of me that feels very committed to The Whitmore, the kids and the "program."  There is also a part of me with lots of questions.  I made several visits to the Whitmore during the year he was there.  Each visit was filled with an array of emotion and experiences.  Fear, sadness, desperation, relief, joy, sorrow, and unbelievable guilt among many others.

There is also a part of me looking for more answers to explain some behavior and emotion my son is experiencing after his return home. He won't elaborate on much.  He just simply says "you have no idea what it was like, you will never understand."  He won't really condemn the Whitmore or defend them either.  Maybe in time he will open up.  I admit I am not sure I am prepared for what he may tell me.

I can honestly say our first contact and visit to the Whitmore was extremely warm, loving and in a way a relief.  As a desperate parent not knowing where else to turn, you just need to see some light at the end of the tunnel.  The Whitmore seemed to offer that.  Testimonials from the other kids and their support to "come and join" made it even easier to stomach.  We were sold, the papers signed and off I went holding my breath and praying all the way home.

His first 3 months were a tough adjustment.  He was a spoiled, only child now in a home full of 30-40 teens.  Not to mention they were all just like him!  Talk about looking in the mirror every day.

My first visit was for Christmas.  Probably a mistake in retrospect.  It was too soon.  He had not adjusted yet and was still extremely manipulative.  It was a huge learning experience for all needless to say.

The second visit was 5 months later.  It was a success.  We had the best time we had had in years.  He seemed to be on his way back to the person he used to be.  Full of plans for the future and ready to face the world.

In the months that followed he seemed to be back-sliding.  No one really knew why.  It simply became a countdown period for him until he came home.  To this day we still don't understand what happened.  Maybe he just became a great actor and knew how to play the game.  Maybe not.

The last visit was parent's weekend and time to come home!  A moment filled with great anticipation and expectations.  Big mistake.  He looked the worst he had in nearly a year.  He was not the same kid I saw in May.  No motivation or even expression.  He blew his part in the parent's weekend celebration.  We still don't know why.  I don't think it was personal towards us, but more a reflection on how he was feeling about himself.

To put an even stranger twist on the weekend, he had completely turned on Cheryl.  In the previous months they appeared to be extremely close.  He was even called her "favorite" by the others.  He showed intense hatred and anger towards her.  He called her a liar and a thief among other things.  We were all in shock.  It continues to baffle us to this day.

Since his return home he has been doing great.  He passed his GED with honors.  Finishing school in Utah was quite the issue and remains a mystery. We still don't know exactly how many credits he "earned."  We were told it was up to Cheryl and we would have to see what she decided.  We just assumed credits were credits.  We finally gave up on getting his credits and decided to go for the GED.  Long story short, he is now enrolled in college and doing great!

In response to some questions that have been raised previously:

1) Someone asked why a parent would allow another kid in the program to share their time with their kid. I can give some insight on that.  During all of my visits I became very close to several of the kids.  Many had not seen their own parents for months.  When a parent comes to visit it is a big deal.  I knew my son had also grown very close to most of the others there.  He in fact invited several to join us for breakfast or a shopping trip to Provo.  

I think it was more a support system for my son.  It was comforting to have his friends with him and he wanted them to get out and have fun away from the Whitmore.  Each visit I grew fonder of the kids.  They truly were an amazing group and I enjoyed any time I spent with them.  Saying good bye was almost as difficult for me when my son came home as it was for him.  You can't imagine the bond that develops between all of them.

2) Sleep deprevation?  All I know is when my son returned home he slept 10-12 hours a day for weeks.  He kept saying "you don't understand what it was like.  We only got 3-5 hours of sleep a night for almost a year."  I thought he was exaggerating until I found this site.  

3) Group therapy?  He has also commented on the marathon sessions until early morning hours.  He denied getting to sleep in later the next morning.

4) Getting beat up?  He says it happened, even to him.  He won't say any more.  In fact he rarely says much.  It is not something he feels comfortable discussing yet.  He has no reason to lie now, he is home and safe.

5) Therapy with the Therapist?  There wasn't any family therapy for months until I demanded we get it.  He says he only had a handfull of one on one sessions in the last couple of months of his stay.  We paid a monthly fee for "treatment."  His therapist is no longer there and won't return my emails.

6) Flushing toilets?  He confirmed that they were not allowed to "flush" the tissue and were instructed to put it in the trash.  The trash person got the lucky job of disposing it!  The reason is due to the septic system and not wanting to clean it out is what they were told. Who knows....

I know there have been more questions, some I am sure I can shed light on.  I have taken up way to much space, but somehow feel relieved.  What do I really think about the past year?  All I know is my son is home and doing great.  He is responsible, loving and mature.  Was it the Whitmore and the program or was it just a matter of waking up and deciding to make something of his life.  I don't know for sure.  All I know is he is finally on the right track.

Do I think some questionable things happened during his stay?  Yes, I am certain they did.  Am I willing to persue it and condemn Mark and Cheryl for abusing my child?  I doubt it. I think I will choose to thank God everyday for the son I have and the life we now share together.  Do I believe Mark and Cheryl care about the kids in their program?  Yes I do.  It takes special people to live the lives they lead no matter what amount of money they might make.  I saw what their lives were like and the hell one child can put them through-mine did!  I also shared hugs, tears, laughter and joy.  We may never know the whole truth.  The bottom line is my child was saved and I am truly at peace for the first time in 18 years.  Can I put a price on that?  No.

Thank you for the opportunity to express myself.  

A Whitmore Alumni Mom

Ps...Hi to any Whitmore kids that may read this, we love and miss you! (Rob and Eddie especially)
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« Reply #274 on: January 22, 2005, 06:13:00 PM »
Hello Whitmore Alumni Mom:  I am so happy your son is home and safe, and that he passed his GED, and is doing well.  I pray he will open up and talk about what happened to him at Whitmore. Please offer him REAL therapy, because he needs to talk about it.  My daughter is home and safe now too. Your son was NOT sent there to be beat up!  The Sudweeks signed a contract with you that you son would NEVER be physically punished in any way. Your son should have never have been beat up PERIOD! Believe me, his anger at Cheryl was deserved.  My daughter was forced to beat up others---at Cheryl' direction, and her guilt today is overwhelming. Of course the therapist will not return your emails---he has "lawyer-up"too.  The criminal investigation is still active. Those kids all lied to the police when they were questioned because they were TOLD to lie.  Perhaps, now your son would like to tell the truth.  It is not too late. Do no give the Sudweeks credit for your son's turn around.  Your son most probably was helped by his fellow students, and by reaching inside himself, and by realizing how much his parents loved him. Good luck....and I'd NEVER refer to myself as a Whitmore Alumni mom.  I am just a loving MOM.
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« Reply #275 on: January 22, 2005, 07:13:00 PM »
Hello I have been reading the comments on this site for weeks now and it is yours that is now bringing me to speak out. I am a father who recently removed my child from Whitmore. I am so glad to hear that your son is now home and safe. I assure from what I now know he was not safe at Whitmore!

You said he called Cheryl a "liar and thief" and you said "the Sudweeks care about the kids". Well first your son is telling the truth about Cheryl she is a liar and a thief and much more!!

The contract you signed with the Sudweeks said they would not allow or inflict any physical punishment on any child. THIS IS A BOLD FACE LIE!! Your own son admits to being beat up and I now know of other children who were physically beat at the direction of Cheryl Sudweek.

The contract also said that the children at Whitmore will recieve an accredited approved education. Another lie they are not an accredied school they do not even have any certified teachers. Be very proud of your son that he passed that GED all on his own despite the set backs in his education inflicted on him by the Sudweeks!

The Sudweeks care about children? A REAL LIE!!! What caring adult sleep deprives a child and will not provide them with working plumbing? I will tell you why my child and your son were sleep deprived, FOR CONTROL!!! These people are cult leaders after our money only!!!

Therapy!!! The ultimate theft!! of course your son as my child got no therapy they really needed. Why? It cost money. at $100 per week for a real therapist that adds up to $5200 per year per child THAT IS OVER $200,000 per year for 40 kids!!!!

You say the Sudweeks care about kids? ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS YOUR MONEY AND LINING THEIR POCKETS!!!

I must admit I was desperate when I found the Witmore and bought in to their line of lies and deception as you did. My child is troubled and now is getting professional loving help at home despite what the Sudweeks did.

These people lie, all they have is a business liscense to run a bed and breakfast not any kind of school. They have been made by the State of Utah to give up their Theraputic School License.

These people abuse children!!! It sounds like your son was one of many beat and abused by them. My child has told of other children who suffered horrible physical abuse at the direction of Cheryl.

These people must be stopped NOW!!! There are 40 other children at risk of the Sudweeks. Please I beg you to call the authorities in Utah and report the abuses your son suffered. You need to call Mr. Jarred Eldridge the county attorney for Juab county who is in charge of a crimminal investigation against the Sudweeks, his phone number is 435-623-3460. Remember we are the lucky parents we have our children home and safe. We must do all we can to save the 40 other children at the Whitmore.
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« Reply #276 on: January 22, 2005, 07:21:00 PM »
Alumni Mom:  if you are who I think you are---your son was tormented by Cheryl because she was really mad because your son kept insisting that he get his full credits from Whitmore, and she knew that that school was not accredited and that his education was a farce.  Also Cheryl got him really upset when he told her he wanted to go home in Jan so he could start college. She had group on him and humiliated him badly. She yelled and screamed and told him she had a contract until March and she was going to get her damn money or else.  She didn't care about him, she just wanted the money. She was really mean to him, lots of times. She made the others beat him up to show him she meant business. Then he just quit doing his school work and he really changed from the good student and hard worker he was. Everyone really felt sorry for him.
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« Reply #277 on: January 22, 2005, 07:35:00 PM »
On 1/22  Anon wrote: "they didn't have any options as far as the license went."
What does that mean?
Of course the had "Options."  They were in a meeting with their own attorney, and represenatives from the Attorney General's office, the County Attorney's office, the Utah case worker....they could have fought to retain their license.  Why just "surrender it" without a fight?  Why would a totally innocent person just "surrender" a license that is required to do the great service that they claim they perform?  How do they hope to run a treatment center without a license to offer "treatment."  Merely RE-NAMING group sessions "meetings" is not the answer.  Group sessions need to be run by a licensed mental health worker, not some raving woman with hopefully a high school education--Cheryl Sudweeks.  Group sessions need to be SCHEDULED at a time of the day when students can THINK...not in the middle of the night, when the insomniac Cherly is roaming about the ole mansion.  It is bad enough that these kids are awakened at 5 AM to listen to Cheryl's hour long brain-washing sublimals everyday.  Give me a break!
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« Reply #278 on: January 22, 2005, 08:10:00 PM »
I guess these are the answers I am hoping for.  You have told me more in one paragraph than he has told me in months.  I appreciate your information.  Perhaps this will help open the door for my son to tell his story.  Maybe some of you out there can help him to help others.  I know there are some horrible secrets he is keeping.  As far as him getting REAL therapy, he won't go within 100 miles of a therapist!! Can you blame him? I know there are others who know his secrets.  I am sure he is keeping some of yours as well.  Again, thank you.
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« Reply #279 on: January 22, 2005, 08:22:00 PM »
Though I don't know the Sudweeks and I only know you folks who post here as well as your posts reflect, I feel obliged to repeat what is becoming a mantra for me.

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On 2005-01-22 16:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

You say the Sudweeks care about kids? ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS YOUR MONEY AND LINING THEIR POCKETS!!!


No, I don't think it's the money. Over and over again you folks describe Cheryl controling these kids. She directs them to be hostile to whoever she's upset with, messes with their sleep, etc. Mark doesn't seem to play into it that much, at least he doesn't get much mention. Cheryl seems to be the one in charge.

At the end of the day, if you ever get a good look at finances, you'll probably find quite a chunk of change going to lawyers and politicians. At least that's the way it usually plays out. They might intend to make a pile of money off of this, but those nagging legal and regulatory problems seem to always eat into profits; hence the constant poor-mouthing to "keep the doors of this wonderful and vitally important place open!"

There are just much easier ways to get money if that's what you're really after. It takes a "special" kind of person to get into the business of group thought reform.

Alumni Mom, I think I understand why your son doesn't want to give you a lot of detail. He probably has a strong sense of fidelity to these people. Evidently, most of the kids who were at the movie theatre the night of the fight felt enough fidelity to Cheryl to give false police reports. And I don't doubt that that kind of fidelity alone is enough to get them to brutalize one kid or another as a group because, when I was living under similar conditions, I'd have done the same.

I agree w/ the Anon dad who posted. Groups like this can be very dangerous. The kids involved are likely very addled and confused and absolutely need your support to handle this bizarre situation.

The fact is the fact, the program is evil, and every attempt to make
chicken salad out of chicken shit has resulted in a Chicken shit
sandwich, No pickle on the side could ever change that.

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« Reply #280 on: January 22, 2005, 08:31:00 PM »
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"i never saw anyone abused there, and I was there 24 hours a day. To be honest, they didnt really have many options as far as the license goes. I highly doubt anything will change as far as the structure of the groups, etc... They'll become 'meetings' and I think you'll still get what you pay for. I keep seeing all this talk of abuse. Who was abused? Name one person that Mark or Cheryl abused. Also, how can you prevent two kids in an open environment from fighting. Should a public high school be charged with child abuse each time a fight breaks out in the hallways? It is true that Casie punched Hannah in the face, it was a situation that occured, and we had group on Casie for it. Other then that, I dont see what all the fuss is about. ~ chris"

Chris, you left immediately after Ms. Harris posted.  Could you please respond to her post now??  http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?mo ... =210&Sort=

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 My name is Joyce Harris and several parents called and referred me to this site since I have been discusssed several times. I picked up my daughterfrom Whitmore who is age 12 on Nov 27th. First, my husband and I were escourted by Officer Wright from Nephi Police Department, and since I have been represented as an abusive mother who threw her daughter down a fligt of stairs, hit her, and broke her fingers in a car door---anyone is welcome to call this officer and verify that is is a LIE. I was forced to try and locate my daughter's clothes in the dark, while being yelled at by unruly girls. There were only 2 girls sleeping in my daughter's room when we arrived at 2:30 AM, and there was a group of other girls awake in the room across the hall. This surprised me because I was told that Whitemore had a strick bedtime schedule. The kids who are "reporting" and spreading lies about me were NOT present when I came to pick up my daughter---Chris, Mackey, Caitlyn were not there---so they are just repeating untruths that were told to them. Also: I have never been report the Child Protective Services for abuse EVER. This too is a lie, and can be checked by anyone who cares to do so. I have never been fired from a teaching job ever, and this can be verified also, by anyone who cares to check it out. I can stand up to any scruity on my record with any agency that wants to verify any records that have anything to do with any alledged abuse against me, or any employment history I have. I have nothing to hide. If Mr. and Mr. Sudweeks have any problems with me withdrawing my daughter from their school amid charges of child abuse, then they need to contact me directly and not manipulate children to spread malicious lies. I have only responded to a personal email that Chris sent me, and that was to relay a message to my daughter that he and another student asked to say hello to her. I was happy to do that because I respected his seemingly sincerity. We had the right as parents to bring out daughter home. We were not even called by the police or the CPS in Utah about the incident at Whitmore. A mother of a student there called our home. So NO ONE from the authorities in Utah talked us into removing our daughter. And the statement that the 3 students who left Whitmore were all drug addicts is another LIE...our daughter has NEVER used any drugs. Telling lies about students who left does nothing to help solve the issues there at all. We are not accusing any students who stayed there of being horrible, or drug addicts, so why attack our little girl? She did nothing wrong. No one there even know where I teach school, so how could you possible know what my superintendent did or did not do. Why all the lies about me, a mother? I did not use a loud voice to wake up anyone...all those kids were up and about already. Why? I have no idea, and I certainly didn't just use my imagination to make up lies to try and explain it. Maybe it was a simple slumber party. You people are just making a very bad situation worse by slandering people. I would think you have enough to deal with as it is without writing lies about someone. I would suggest that you stop. You have absolutly nothing to gain by slandering me, and by using kids to do this. Remember it can be proved very very eaisly exactly where things are entered from a computer. Anyone can sign someone eleses name to comments. I honestly wonder if Chris, Mackey, Caitlyn really made these remarks about me or if some other person too gutless to use their real name is slandering me. I would strongly suggest you stop now. Joyce Harris

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I have one other thing to say:

I will not respond to any other postings about me on this site.
It would serve no purpose. We made the decision to remove our daughter. We will trust the authorities in Utah to continue their investigation, to questions witnesses, and to do what is right for a group of kids that need to be protected. I know that I respect social worker, and police officials. I also respect children and their parents.

I do know what I know. I know that many misrepresentations have been made on this site. Our contract reads on page 13 that Cheryl Sudweeks "attended some classes at BYU." That hardly gives her a degree from BYU as stated on this site.


I KNOW that we were told that the group sessions would be lead by a licensed therapist, and they were not. They were led by Cheryl Sudweeks, who is a high school graduate.

I know that we were told that our daughter would be properly supervised at all times. We do not consider proper supervision to be that of other student. Our daughter was left supervised by another student, when the group went to Provo. This was an underage student....and he is a student there with his own problems, and is not qualified to be in charge of other students.

I know that my daughter is a minority, Hungarian Gypsy and that I never expected the owner Cheryl Sudweeks to call my daugher a "Sand Nigger," especially in the today's climate when many people hate terriorists that are referred to that horrendous term.

I know that I never expected my daughter to be exposed to illness by having to dispose of toliet tissue in an un-lined trash can because putting toliet tissue in the commodes would cause them to back up and overflow. The trash can in her bath room and others would be filled with toliet tissue covered with urine, fecus, and often blood, and would remain there until the young boy (whose job it was to empty these trash cans) came to empty them.

I know my daughter, who has never had a physical fight in her life, was forced to participate in punishing---hitting, punching, kicking---another student at the direction of Cheryl Sudweeks. This is depolorable!

So no one needs to try and point out lies about me throwing anyone down a stair case when a police offier was standing at this stair case and know this is a LIE.

Whoever is writing LIES about me needs to be spending time praying for their own forgiveness, and trying to clean up that filty mansion, and trying to explain their OWN ABUSIVE BEHAVIORS.

Joyce Harris
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« Reply #281 on: January 22, 2005, 10:36:00 PM »
Dear Whitmore Alumni Mom:

I am the father who wrote the earlier reply. I want you to know you do not need to worry about your son speaking to the authories about the abuse and beatings he suffered at the Whitmore. The police do not want to prosceute children they realize it is the adults who made the children committ these horrible acts. My own child was made to beat another at Whitmore. The full story has been told to the police in Utah and my child is immune from any prosceution.

I realize it may be difficult for your son to open up about the beatings he suffered. I believe I know from speaking with my own child who your son is. I suggest you ask him about the constant humiliation he suffered at Lake Powell in October. Also I suggest you ask him to tell you the complete truth about the abuse and beatings Joey suffered, and why he lied to the police about Joey to cover for the Sudweeks.

Again I am so glad to hear your son is home and safe, but please we have an obligation to help save the 40 kids still at the Whitmore and save any other desperate parents.

Please contact Mr. Jarred Eldridge.
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« Reply #282 on: January 22, 2005, 11:23:00 PM »
I lived at the whitmore for a year. Sure there were some things there that werent right.I wouldnt go as far as to say kids got beat. The kids had no scars on them from it and there was no blood. how is that beat? not trying to be offensive but the bottom line is a lot of kids are just pussies that cry about every little thing that happens to them that they dont like. A lot of the kids there(not saying all) are to over protected and when they get a scratch they cry to mommy. I saw everything that happened in group when i lived there. I didnt agree with all of the things that went on but then again who does? some of the posts on here r true and others r lies. But nobodys kid is in danger for their life. bottom line is no one is gonna agree totally with the whitmore and this argument could go on forever. If a lot of the kids werent such pussies there would not be all this controversy. i will agree in that a few are justified
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« Reply #283 on: January 23, 2005, 02:09:00 AM »
Antigen: Don't think Mark Sudweeks is the "good guy" in this mess.  He is just more in control of himself and does not come off as a raving maniac as Cheryl Sudweeks does. He walks around naked with only a towel in front of those kids. HE has his own agenda and Cheryl is his little "recruiter" to meet his sick needs and wants. He flaunts his toys--boats, cycles,etc to entice these kids. Every once in awhile he will step in when the beatings get out of control and say "that's enough Cheryl."  And let's not forget he did plead guilty to animal abuse in Canada and paid a $124,000 fine!  This is not a kind man.  They have an 11 year son who lives in the mess too.  NOw what kind of parents raise their own child in a mess like this? To hear some of these parents talk, "loving, Christian, caring people."  I THINK NOT!  The kids under their care are not being educated.  They are not getting proper therapy.  And they are being mistreated.  I know because my child tells me about what went on there.  And it was terrible. Mark puts on a better face, and have a few more social graces than his wife---but he is just as much to blame as she is. He just has the gift of gab.  The money deal:  Hell they have to make a lot of money----you are right.  Seems like they are constantly paying lawyers! And let's not forget. They ram that church down the kids throats too.  Surely they are paying their 10% tithes!
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Whitmore Academy in Utah?
« Reply #284 on: January 23, 2005, 02:26:00 AM »
Anon: you said "some things weren't right" what do you think was not "right?"  Your parents had a contract with the Sudweeks that no physical punsishment whatsoever would be used against you kids.  Don't you think they should have kept their word??????

Being hit is not acceptable at all.  Just what makes a kid a "pussie" who cries when people who are suppose to be his friends hit on him just because Cheryl tells them to?  What makes that OK?

People can be beat to death and NOT have blood flowing out of them.  They could be bleeding internally.  YOU are not a doctor.  You do not know how injured a kid is who is being beat up by 5 or 6 kids at one time.

And there is mental and emotional damage being inflict too. Don't forget about that.

You are not there any longer. Tell us what you know that went on that you now know was not right.

You have a MOM on this site now who is trying to help her son, and she needs to know what happened to her son.  Help her to understand what happened to him there.  He is afraid to confide in her.  Do the right thing, and quit covering for the Sudweeks. You don't owe them shit!
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