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« Reply #300 on: January 25, 2005, 04:20:00 AM »
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On 2005-01-24 17:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

its funny you bring the music up, toward the last part of my stay she outright let me have it because i talked to her one on one about it and i was pretty much allowed to use aim and email for what i needed. the bottom line is is that the cheryl sudweeks i know is nothing like the cheryl sudweeks thats being protrayed here on these msg boards.


Chris, I think you're a decent and intelligent kid. I also think the Cheryl Sudweeks that's being portrayed here is the type of person who has you convinced that it's fittin' and proper for you to have to beg and take a lot of shit just to be allowed to listen to music or to communicate w/ friends.

I had a similar conversation w/ my daughter a couple of years ago. She had run away to live w/ her boyfriend just two blocks away from our house. She missed us, especially her baby sister, and wanted to come visit, maybe have dinner... something! We hadn't heard from her in weeks, we were all for it. In fact she was sneaking to make this phone call so that he wouldn't "get in a bad mood". And she tried to explain to me how she really could do whatever she wanted, but she just didn't want to see her sister or talk to her former best friend or anything because it just wasn't worth his reaction.

It took her awhile, and a lot more of this kind of control, before she started seriously questioning why in thee hell she should even be asking this psycho for permission to go hang out w/ her family for an afternoon or go to the beach w/ her (once) best friend.

But she did figure it out eventually. And I hope you do too.

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« Reply #301 on: January 25, 2005, 12:46:00 PM »
hi, im a kid that was previously at the whitmore about a year ago. if anything please send your child there. it is the best thing for them. Iput my parents through hell and  back... i was heavily into many different drugs, i was a runaway, dropped out of school, fought cops u name it i have done it. If i kept going on the road i was on i would have been dead by now. my parents were very scared for me and had to take action. so they found the whitmore. as i said i have been out of the whitmore for nearly a year and have stablized a relationship with my parents, and brothers and my family is very proud of me. i have stayed clean ever since i left. i am now in school and am trying to lead a normal teenage life. if u have any questions you can email me at locaboca87@hotmail.com
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« Reply #302 on: January 25, 2005, 11:20:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-23 19:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"i know who your son is anon mom. the whole time he spent there i pretty much did 2. Dont believe everything being said on this website because it truly is lies for the most part. just kids trying to cause trouble. i got in trouble with your son on more than one occasion back when we were new but we never really got abused. here and there some kids would get out of control a bit when emotions ran high but thats about it. i was good friends with your son and im glad he's doing well. As far as the things being said on this website it's just a bunch of teen kids looking
for trouble by blowing stuff out of proportion."


Do you think the parents on this website are lying as well?  and my son too?  I don't have all the details, but enough to know he is not lying about what he has shared.  You say that no one "really" got abused.  That seems like you were questioning it to me or that you aren't quite sure if it would be considered abuse.  Can you expand on what happened when things got out of control? During those times, do you think the parents of the kids involved would approve of what was being done to their child?  Especially when tha parent spent the amount of money they did to make sure their child was safe and well cared for? Just out of curiosity, did I meet you during one of my visits?  Lastly, are you still there or are you now home?

Thank you for your reply, I appreciate what you had to say.  I hope things are going well for you too.  Take care.
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« Reply #303 on: January 25, 2005, 11:37:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-24 10:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"To Alumni MOM:  What is the deal?  You started out your letter stating your son "recently returned home...and talking about the past year's events."



  Then when the other parents started asking you questions, all of a sudden your kid was at Whitmore way back in the Summer of 2003.



  LOOK, no one is going to make your kid talk to the cops.  No one is going to make you say anything you don't want to say.  You can stay committed to the Whitmore and the "program" all you want to.  BUT, let's stay honest here, ok?



 I know exactly who your son is, and I know exactly what he knows, and exactly what happened to him, and exactly who beat the shit out of him, and exactly why he got shit for an education at Whitmore.  And that's why he will have a GED attached to him  the rest of his life, and not a high school dipolma, and that's ok!  He's a smart guy, and he passed the GED test. He begged to be given the right courses at Whitmore so he COULD graduate, but Lady, there is nothing to graduate FROM at Whitmore. Because there are no classes, there are no real teachers, there is no academic program. It is a bunch of "kids teaching kids" or "kids teaching themselvs."   You were fed a bunch of lies, and that is what you paid for---NOTHING!



But, don't give a bunch of false dates, just so you feel like your identity can't be disclosed. No one is interested in pointing out who you are or who your son is. All we are trying to do here is find our what happened at that place and why.



No one wants your son, or mine, or anyone eles's to be hurt or humiliated or to be forced to do anything ever again against their will.  They had enough of that at Whitmore and from the Sudweeks. But don't be a bullshiter either.

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If you go back and read carefully, you will see the dates given.  Read very carefully.  Make no mistake, I am no bullshiter.  I did not give up my entire retirement and savings to send my child away for 1 year just to bullshit.  If you want to work with me great, if not at least get your facts straight first.  So out of curiosity, are you a past/present student or parent?  You mentioned that "no one wants my son or yours or anyone elses to get hurt" ect...  Please clarify so I don't misunderstand and go in the wrong direction.  IF you have all this information regarding my son, and you seem to have an attitude towards the Whitmore are you willing to give more details?
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« Reply #304 on: January 26, 2005, 12:19:00 AM »
why do all you "parents" post as anonymous? that pretty much goes for everyone as well. you guys must be scared of something
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« Reply #305 on: January 26, 2005, 12:21:00 AM »
why do all you guys continue to discuss how bad the whitmore is? clearly it's not getting anyone anywhere and this topic could go on forever. let's all mature a little bit and go from there
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« Reply #306 on: January 26, 2005, 01:00:00 AM »
It seems funny to me when anonymous posters complain about people who post anonymously :smile:. Always was a fan of the ironic.
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« Reply #307 on: January 26, 2005, 01:08:00 AM »
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On 2005-01-25 21:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"why do all you guys continue to discuss how bad the whitmore is? clearly it's not getting anyone anywhere and this topic could go on forever. let's all mature a little bit and go from there"


I dont know, I have gotten a fair amount of clarity and information from this discussion. I have seen everything from what is probably lies to what is probably the truth. When one looks at what is at stake from BOTH sides of this issue, I think this conversation is not without its merit. I appreciate the discussion very much.
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« Reply #308 on: January 26, 2005, 02:29:00 AM »
i only post anonymous because im not positive in some of the stuff i say. they sure seem to be
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« Reply #309 on: January 26, 2005, 02:30:00 AM »
by the way this conversation is shit so dont be so moronic
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« Reply #310 on: January 26, 2005, 05:27:00 AM »
Is that is an example of the maturity you were saying we should have earlier?
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« Reply #311 on: January 26, 2005, 04:09:00 PM »
Chris: glad to see that you don't think a place like Whitmore would be a place you'd want your own kid.  Also glad you were not on the "receiving end of Cheryl Sudweek's wrath," so you can retain your positive feelings for her. Take care of yourself, and try to have good clean fun at college, and do well.
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« Reply #312 on: January 26, 2005, 04:20:00 PM »
To the former student:  you stated that you had a history of being violent with police officers. Well, the contract we signed with the Sudweeks clearly stated that the Whitmore Academy did not accept any students with any history of violence. Did your parents lie to the Sudweeks about your background in order to get you accepted into the Whitmore?
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« Reply #313 on: January 26, 2005, 04:25:00 PM »
You asked why the parents post "anonymously," well some of our kids may have to be a witness when the on-going criminal investigation wraps up and the Sudweeks go to trial. It is as simple as that.  It is not a matter of being scared.
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« Reply #314 on: January 26, 2005, 04:33:00 PM »
Dear Alumn Mom:  I totally misread the dates. When you said your son "recently came home...and later said your son was only at Lake Powell in 2003....I MISTAKENLY put it all together incorrectly as not being "recently."  I am very sorry for my unkind words.  You as a Mom most certainly did not need me to be unkind to you. I just brought my child home in Nov 2004, and have emotions running way too high---and felt wrongly that you were distancing yourself from the current problem of alleged abuse, and just did not want to become involved. I was wrong, and I do apologize.  Please do not let my unkind words make you stop talking and expressing your views.
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