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« Reply #120 on: December 03, 2004, 12:33:00 PM »
Why Did Mary Sudweeks plead guilty to animal cruelty in Canada if it was just a "Mis communication issue?"  COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!
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« Reply #121 on: December 03, 2004, 12:42:00 PM »
Well I Know a few of the kids there. They seem to be happy. I think its doing good for them. I hope if you have  trouble with a child you would consider it.
          Write me and let me know what you think.
     Rach.
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« Reply #122 on: December 03, 2004, 12:42:00 PM »
These kids are forced to administer punishment on each other.  They are AFRAID to tell this to the authorities.  Of course they are afraid. They need to tell their parents what is going on. If they refuse to administer the punishment, the others are forced to TURN ON THEM.
Parents---get out of denial!!!
Talk to your kids who are there.
Why are your kids on this site now....why aren't they in school?
Those who are the "PUNISHERS" are at as much risk, psychologically as the ones being injured.
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« Reply #123 on: December 03, 2004, 12:52:00 PM »
That is an OUT RIGHT LIE...not one of the 4 kid withdrawn from Whitmore had a history of drug abuse.  That is an OUTRIGHT LIE.

They were withdrawn to remove them from a place that was being investigated for CHILD ABUSE.

It is that simple, PEOPLE.
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« Reply #124 on: December 03, 2004, 12:53:00 PM »
Whoa there, looks like someone is into assumptions... I hate assumptions. Assume = make an a** of u and me.
Don't try to say it like you know it if you really don't. :roll:

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There is NO STRUCTURE at Whitmore.
Actually, we have a full schedule that goes from 4:30 in the morning all the way to bedtime. Everyone follows it with exceptions of group trips to town and our travel study. It's on the website if you don't believe me, and it's been there for quite some time. Go look at it. Right now. I dare you.

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Cheryl Sudweeks leads the GROUP SESSIONS, many that she starts at all hours of the night...some go on as late as 3AM.
What's wrong with Cheryl leading group? I think she does a great job of it, actually.
All hours of the night? If you consider 7:00 or 8:00 'all hours,' then yeah, sure. Believe me, she loves sleep just as much as anyone else, and she is always at group, awake, the whole time that we are.
About the 3am thing, group ends around midnight at the very latest. I've seen a few go later than that, yes; a few. No more than that. If it goes too late, we sleep later the next morning and we just bump schedule up to fit that time.

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Cheryl Sudweeks is NOT a therapist, she does not even have a college degree.
Like I said before, don't talk unless you know the facts. Cheryl graduated from Brigham Young University (BYU) of Utah. And why does she need to be a therapist in the first place? Albert Einstein failed math, but still turned out a genius. Someone doesn't need to have a degree or official education in an area to be completely awesome at it. She doesn't even conduct therapy, anyway. Our therapist does.

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Tim Lowe, the therapist left in Nov.  A new therapist David was let go by Cheryl Sudweeks.  ONE therapist could never meet the needs of 40 kids.
You're right, those people do not work here anymore. However, something you obviously do not know is that we do have a therapist, and he does work here, and he does do a wonderful job.

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These group sessions would mostly target ONE KID to humiliate that one kid.
We do focus on the issues of individual kids at times, but we by no means humiliate them. We confront them on what the problem is, discuss what could be causing it, and figure out how we can solve it. We do this by means of talking; that is, not cussing, yelling, screaming, or violence of any kind.

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These kids were sleep deprived daily.
Sleep deprived? We get up early to get an early start on our day and for the self-discipline we learn from it. Bedtime is 10:00pm. I don't see what you're talking about right here, because that is plenty sleep for anyone.

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These kids spend most of their day doing chores, and being punished if they do not do them properly.
We spend 15 minutes cleaning our rooms each morning, and then 30 to 45 minutes doing our chores. Is this all day to you? You must sleep a lot or something.

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THIS IS A SHAME.

You're right, it is a shame. It's quite a shame that people assume so much without knowing the facts first. It's a shame that some people really do abuse their kids but have to accuse others of bs when they are obviously innocent (I'm talking about the people who do know us and have been here before).

It's also quite a shame that "Anonymous" was the only name I saw on this page, and it was almost full.

Yes, it really is a shame.  :roll:
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« Reply #125 on: December 03, 2004, 12:53:00 PM »
Personally, I am on this site because I have graduated high school. I'm done with school and have been accepted to college for spring semester starting in the first week of february. I have no reason to lie nor a reason to be afraid. I am going home for 3 weeks soon and then I'm coming back for one more month just to kind of say goodbye to everyone. I am particularly shocked at how immature anonymous is, all of them.. haha. The "former student" is acting like a 2 year old. I have no clue who you are, or what your problem is. I do, however, know Chris Corkalo, and Tim, and Jourdan. The students who HAVE experienced Whitmore, and know what they're talking about. FOR THE RECORD, Jourdan is one of the 3 kids you guys keep talking about. She is now permanantly at home, and only has nice things to say... I wonder why.
chris
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« Reply #126 on: December 03, 2004, 12:56:00 PM »
This is an OUTRIGHT LIE....none of the 4 kids had a history of drug abuse.

The parents removed these kids because of the issue of CHILD ABUSE!!!!
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« Reply #127 on: December 03, 2004, 12:59:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-03 09:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

"That is an OUT RIGHT LIE...not one of the 4 kid withdrawn from Whitmore had a history of drug abuse.  That is an OUTRIGHT LIE.



They were withdrawn to remove them from a place that was being investigated for CHILD ABUSE.



It is that simple, PEOPLE.



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Yeah, since you know them personally and everything.  :roll:

It's seems quite amusing that you keep bringing up child abuse, or CHILD ABUSE, when you've been accused of it three times. Am I right? We saw you abuse your daughter. We have so many witnesses. What (false) witnesses do you have, huh? I'd love to count them. Usually, there is much strength in numbers in case you didn't know.

Some people are such idiots.
Oh, excuse me... I meant PEOPLE. :lol:
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« Reply #128 on: December 03, 2004, 01:12:00 PM »
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This is an OUTRIGHT LIE....none of the 4 kids had a history of drug abuse.

The parents removed these kids because of the issue of CHILD ABUSE!!!!


Actually, two of them had a history of drug abuse; one of them a very serious one. I was good friends with most of those kids.

You know what, Harris? I don't at all doubt that you just got done abusing your child. I think I'll just leave this post at that.

I can't stand child abusers. :flame:
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« Reply #129 on: December 03, 2004, 01:47:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-03 07:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Do not send your child there....They are currently
under investigation for serious child abuse!!!!!!"

I would like to see where there is proof of "serious"
child abuse. One child was removed from the program
and claims he was abused. No abuse goes on in this
house at all

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On 2004-12-03 08:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
   
"Read the article "Who am I discovery and Chilanko
Lodge"....the Sudweeks ALSO abuse helpless animals,
not only children"

On that note, I would like to say that the Sudweeks
have nothing to do with the animal abuse. There is a
man who takes care of the animals at Chilanko Lodge
who did not take care of them. How can you point that
to Mark and Cheryl?

Honestly, if you believe that we get abused here, then
come out here for yourselves and check it out. Our
door is always open so please stop by and talk to some
of us. We aren't told what to say, you can even come
with a police officer and talk to us one on one if
that makes you more conferrable. We don?t lie here; we
are not abused is any way at all. We eat plenty, if
not too much, food, sleep more than enough, and we
don?t fight with each other. We love each other too
much here to fight. The one bad apple in the group,
who is a known liar (from his parents), is no longer
here. So like Tim said, if you haven?t been out here
to see what really happens, then don?t bother posting
here with your useless opinions.

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On 2004-12-02 14:30:00, HannahRuisi wrote:

"You are ruining people's lives, we all love it here
and if we didn't then we wouldn't be here. Think about
what you are doing while writing these harmful things
on the internet."

Like I said the door is always open, this isn't a
lockdown facility we are able to walk out of the door
whenever we feel pleased in doing so.

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On 2004-12-02 14:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"wow. I hope you kids get the truth someday and find
peace. I really do."


I hope you sir/madam find the truth someday because
you have no idea what you are talking about here
because have you been out here? Probably not and more
than likely don't know what you are talking about so
please, be quiet.

Also Antigen, we have a nice hot tub you can come hang
out in and talk to some of us, or if you wish, spend
some alone time to think about what you've been saying
about our program. Let me quote something that the
"Nephi Times" has said

"The teens in the Utah program, at the Whitmore
Academy, have the benefit of the home, with 12
beautiful rooms, a swimming pool and Jacuzzi. In
addition, they can enjoy the majestic mountains and
the nearby beauty of Little Sahara Sand Dunes, Lake
Powell, Canyon Lands National Parks, Zions Park and
many other natural wonders."

I would like to thank all of the parents and former
students who have been here and our supporting us,
your voices count more than those who are hiding
behind a computer screen, or in Ms. Harris matter came
here for thirty minutes to take her child at 3 in the
morning, so of course she wouldnt know anything,
everyone was sleeping in there rooms. But according to
her everyone was up which makes no sense because if
they were then how  were they AWAKEN by your loud
mouth?


Now, let me tell you something that I feel neccasry directed towards Ms. Harris. Joyce has been accused three times for Child Abuse and has even been proven once that she has. She also lost her job over this, she was a former middle school teacher and when the superintendent found out about these accusations, she was fired immeadeatly. The night that she came to get her daughter, her daughter was physically abused, and everyone who was awake (thanks to her) witnessed it, she grabbed her arm, tossed her around, and when they were leaving she tossed her down the stairs FACE FIRST! Then when the girl tries to come back to us for help her Joyce tells her that if she doesnt get in the car, she is sending her to jail. Who would send their own kid to jail for not getting in a car? I will tell you who, someone who does not care about there kid. Her daughter told us when she got her "Dad does the spankings, and Mom does the beatings" When the young girl finally gets in the car, Joyce slams the door, almost breaking the girls fingers, would she have cared if this happen? Proberbly not.

Also, one more thing to the person that posted about "Mary Sudweeks" there in no such person int he Sudweek family that has the name "Mary" at least not this Sudweek family.

-Mackey

P.S. Remember to any of you who want to come out here check out http://www.whitmoreacademy.com and look at the contact information. The doors always open, and there is nothing here to prove. Just stop by at some random time. If we are not there, we might be on a trip, but you will be able to contact us. Thanks!
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« Reply #130 on: December 03, 2004, 02:36:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-03 09:53:00, caitlynloggins wrote:

 Assume = make an a** of u and me.


I'm sorry, but when you open your statement with programspeak I can read no further  ::puke::
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« Reply #131 on: December 03, 2004, 02:39:00 PM »
If by programspeak you mean appropriate language.
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« Reply #132 on: December 03, 2004, 02:46:00 PM »
No, I mean simple minded cliches that are thrown out in the place of actual thoughts. :roll:
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« Reply #133 on: December 03, 2004, 02:53:00 PM »
That is my actual thought. It is just written censored as to not scar the minds of any innocent audiences.
I don't expect you to understand that, though, especially if you were one of those cussing up a storm earlier.
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« Reply #134 on: December 03, 2004, 03:04:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-03 11:53:00, caitlynloggins wrote:

"That is my actual thought. It is just written censored as to not scar the minds of any innocent audiences.

I don't expect you to understand that, though, especially if you were one of those cussing up a storm earlier."


If that is your "actual thought", then that's very sad and I feel sorry for you.

How aggressive all you program(med) people became when someone spoke of a negative experience they had at Whitmore. It sure does sound like you're trying your best to prove to the whole wide world that Whitmore is not what it has already been proven to be-- another gulag. Your incessant attempts to discredit those who dared to speak out prove that you have a lot to hide.

It's a good thing they're investigating Whitmore. I hope the right thing will be done, and that Whitmore and all the other gulags will be shut down.
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