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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2004, 12:52:00 PM »
Wrong Froderick, the real shit has yet to hit the fan but when it does, you are going to wish you had not been so easily played for a fool.  Think Froderick.  Without you leading the attack against Bock, who's left?  A couple of PURE supporters with a self-serving agenda of their own?  Come on, wise up.  Carey ain't the boogie-man no matter how many times you say so.  

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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2004, 01:03:00 PM »
I'm not a PURE supporter, don't even know what the acronym stands for.  I don't think Carey is the boogey man either, I think some of the ways she tries to get her point across SUCK!!  She's incredibly bitchy, even to people who say they don't really have a problem with WHAT she's saying, but HOW she's saying it.  She was talking about how ISAC is losing it's credibility...I agreed to a certain extent but also pointed out that IN MY OPINION she hurts her own credibility by how she deals/talks with people.  I thought I had put up a fairly rational post, seeing some of her points, but getting mine across too and I was met with sarcasm and a condescending tone.  It bothered me so I posted about it.  Automatically she and others ASSUMED I was a PURE supporter.  I'm not.  Like I said, don't even know who they are...I'm a survivor of a program and I was concerned about the credibility problem with ISAC as well but also with Carey's.  Any discussion I've tried to have with her on this has elicited the same tone, dripping with sarcasm.  I don't think Carey has evil intentions, I just think she comes across as a bitch who has selfish intentions.  Please note that I did not say that she IS a bitch with selfish intentions...I don't know her so I can't say...I said she COMES ACROSS that way...TO ME.  I felt the need to point out that distinction because of her post to me about having somehting to hide because I don't post with a name.
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2004, 01:11:00 PM »
guess I should correct that comment.  I don't think she has solely selfish reasons, I'm sure she wants to help her children.  As a parent, I don't doubt that...BUT......it seems, again - to ME....that there's a little self-righteousness or martyrdom playing into this, like she's the only one who is so pure (no pun intended) in her motivations and she's the sole light for all these kids.  SHE'S NOT.....there are a lot of others of us out here who are fighting for these kids too....we just choose to do it differently than Carey.
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2004, 01:18:00 PM »
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Wrong Froderick, the real shit has yet to hit the fan but when it does, you are going to wish you had not been so easily played for a fool. Think Froderick. Without you leading the attack against Bock, who's left? A couple of PURE supporters with a self-serving agenda of their own? Come on, wise up. Carey ain't the boogie-man no matter how many times you say so.

And who the hell are you??
 
Played for a fool? Like I even care that much anyway? And I far from lead this "attack." There are people out there who know far more than I do about all of this, and I realize that. It's just that I see her for what she is. I don't even care that much about the suit. Like I said, I have no interest (personal) in it whatsoever, and nothing to gain either way, except for the fact that I think, no I KNOW that WWASP sucks, and Carey is looking more and more like a patsy for THEM (you?) every minute.  

Who the hell are you?

Why should I believe a fucking word that you say?

Boogie-man, no..just a person who ducks questions. That bothers me, I don't know why, but it bothers me...I think Kaydeejayded came closest to explaining that earlier in this thread.  :tup:
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2004, 01:22:00 PM »
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"guess I should correct that comment.  I don't think she has solely selfish reasons, I'm sure she wants to help her children.  As a parent, I don't doubt that...BUT......it seems, again - to ME....that there's a little self-righteousness or martyrdom playing into this, like she's the only one who is so pure (no pun intended) in her motivations and she's the sole light for all these kids.  SHE'S NOT.....there are a lot of others of us out here who are fighting for these kids too....we just choose to do it differently than Carey."


Can't say I disagree with your assessment, Anon. However I wonder if perhaps we should not find the offensive tone of Carey's posts at least understandable in the face of this relentless campaign to demonize the lady for speaking out about her experience with PURE?  As for ISAC, I am afraid that organization has truly lost their way.  Carey had nothing to do with that, she only expressed an opinion.  ISAC would be wise to get their moral compass straight and go to bat against any and all people who profit from the teen hurt industry, a long list which includes independent referral agents.
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2004, 01:26:00 PM »
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Can't say I disagree with your assessment, Anon. However I wonder if perhaps we should not find the offensive tone of Carey's posts at least understandable in the face of this relentless campaign to demonize the lady for speaking out about her experience with PURE? As for ISAC, I am afraid that organization has truly lost their way. Carey had nothing to do with that, she only expressed an opinion. ISAC would be wise to get their moral compass straight and go to bat against any and all people who profit from the teen hurt industry, a long list which includes independent referral agents.

Who are you and why are you here?
Oh, poor Carey..maybe if she'd be real for a change the "demonizing" would cease...
You're talking a lot (about ISAC) but you're not saying anything...
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2004, 01:28:00 PM »
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Wrong Froderick, the real shit has yet to hit the fan but when it does, you are going to wish you had not been so easily played for a fool. Think Froderick. Without you leading the attack against Bock, who's left? A couple of PURE supporters with a self-serving agenda of their own? Come on, wise up. Carey ain't the boogie-man no matter how many times you say so.

And who the hell are you??

 

Played for a fool? Like I even care that much anyway? And I far from lead this "attack." There are people out there who know far more than I do about all of this, and I realize that. It's just that I see her for what she is. I don't even care that much about the suit. Like I said, I have no interest (personal) in it whatsoever, and nothing to gain either way, except for the fact that I think, no I KNOW that WWASP sucks, and Carey is looking more and more like a patsy for THEM (you?) every minute.  



Who the hell are you?



Why should I believe a fucking word that you say?



Boogie-man, no..just a person who ducks questions. That bothers me, I don't know why, but it bothers me...I think Kaydeejayded came closest to explaining that earlier in this thread.  :tup: "


So Carey ducks questions and that pisses you off to the point where you have no sense of reality?  When was the last time you read one of Sue Scheff's posts in response to questions posed directly to her?  Fucking idiot, at least admit you don't know what the hell you don't know.
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2004, 01:29:00 PM »
Yeah, what about Scheff's posts, dickhead/bitch? Why don't you elaborate...
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2004, 01:30:00 PM »
What do you care, anyway? What's your interest in this? You're getting awful heated w/ those insults there, asshole... :lol:
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2004, 01:32:00 PM »
Sense of reality? I only know what I see going on here...it seems that the general consensus is that Carey is a liar. I could give a rat's ass about PURE or WWASP, really.
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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2004, 01:35:00 PM »
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So Carey ducks questions and that pisses you off to the point where you have no sense of reality?  When was the last time you read one of Sue Scheff's posts in response to questions posed directly to her?  Fucking idiot, at least admit you don't know what the hell you don't know.

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See????  This is exactly what I'm talking about.  You call Frod a fucking idiot because he can admit when he feels he was wrong?!?!?!?!?! Yes, SOME OF US HERE ACTUALLY CAN SEE POINTS IN WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY.  You and Carey (unless you're one in the same) cannot seem to do that.  Don't you think most of us have been demonized for what we have to say/do about these programs??  Once again, it's poor Carey out there battling the evils on her own.....woe is me  :roll: .
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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2004, 01:37:00 PM »
AHAHAHAHA!! Suck on that, dickhead anon..  :wstupid:
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2004, 01:38:00 PM »
No need to elaborate, lemme know when you find a single post written and signed by Sue Scheff, who in case you have forgotten, is the plaintiff in the civil lawsuit filed against Ginger/Fornits.
Yep, that's right.  You been beating the wrong horse all along, much to the chagrin of myself who used to think you were smarter than the average wiseass.
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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2004, 01:43:00 PM »
I was aware that Sue's the plaintiff. That's another issue though, isn't it? I told you, I don't really care that much. Carey has left a lot of questions unanswered. That's what I'm talking about...
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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2004, 01:46:00 PM »
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On 2004-02-17 10:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

"No need to elaborate, lemme know when you find a single post written and signed by Sue Scheff, who in case you have forgotten, is the plaintiff in the civil lawsuit filed against Ginger/Fornits.

Yep, that's right.  You been beating the wrong horse all along, much to the chagrin of myself who used to think you were smarter than the average wiseass.





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Ok, once again.......I don't have a problem with a lot of WHAT Carey is saying....I have a problem with HOW she says it because IN MY OPINION it hurts her credibility which, in turn, hurts the "cause" credibility.
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