Randall was handling the account of referrals.

[Anonymous]

Lee, Lee, Lee...how connected are you to Sue?  When did she call you with that infomation on Carey's deposition? Was it the same night or early the next morning?  

Do you think it is ok for Sue to release information on Carey's deposition and then turn around and sue Carey for releasing information on her own (Sue's) deposition?  Do you think Sue lives by a different set of rules than those she imposes on others?

Regards,
Anon

[Anonymous]

On 2004-01-04 11:14:00, Carey wrote:

"Q.  Do you remember receiving a check for refering XXXX XXXXXXXX to Casa by the Sea in April of 2001?



A.  I don't recall.  I did not personally refer these people.



Q.  Now, do you remember refering nine people through Diane XXXXXXXX?



A.  Yes.



Q.  Do you remember one of these people as XXXXX XXXXXXXX who went to Tranquility Bay in March of 2001?



A.  No.



Q.  Do you remember one of those people was XXXXXXX XXXX, who went to Carolina Springs in March of 2001.



A.  I didn't know the names, Randall kept track of that.



Q.  Do you remember on of those persons being XXX XXXXXXX, who went to Tranquility Bay in March of 2001?



A.  No.  I don't remember that name at all.



Q.  Do you remember XXXXX XXXXXXXXX going to Spring Creek Lodge in April of 2001 and you receiving partial payment through Diane XXXXXXXX?



A.  I don't remember that at all.  That name at all.



Q.  Do you remember--



A.  I never kept track of the names.



Q.  Do you remember the referrals from Dinae XXXXXXX were made so that she would get two-thirds of the referral credit and she would give you one third?



A.  That's correct.



Q.  So you would get $1,000.00 and she would get $2,000.00 credit?



A.  Well she would get a month free for her boys.  Whatever that amount is.



Q.  And you would get $1,000.00?



A.  Correct.



Q.  Do you remember one of the people you got $1,000.00 for was XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX, who went to Casa by the Sea in May of 2001?



A.  No.  I don't remember that at all.



Q.  Do you rmemeber one of the persons you ot money for was XXXXXX XXXX who went to Tranquility Bay in May of 2001?



A.  Not at all.  Not at all.



Q.  Do you remember that one of the people you got $1,000.00 for was XXXXXXX XXXXXX, who went to Spring Creek Lodge in June of 2001?



A.  In June - no.  No.



Q.  Do you remember one of the persons you got $1,000.00 for was XXXXX XXXXXXXX, who went to Majestic Ranch in June of 2001?



A.  NOt at all.



Q.  Do you remember you got $1,000.00 when XXXXXX XXXXX went to Carolina Springs in June of 2001?



A.  No. No.  I did not.  I know Randall, Randall must--I mean, I didn't -- and I know Diane got herr credits.  And I know Diane didn't even pay us for the last couple of months because she ran out of money.  From what I recall.  As a matter of fact, I had told Diane, Maybe its time to bring your boys home.  So I stopped -- but I don't know what Randall did.



Q.  What does Randall have to do with Diane XXXXXXXX?



A.  Because Randall was handling the account of referrals.  Randall, when a call would come in that had my code on  it Randall would get the call.  Randall handled all of my accounts.







Could someone help with the dates:



When was PURE founded?

When did she pull her child from CSA?

When did the sexual harrasment issue take place?

When did her business start providing the income that she felt was secure enough that she no longer needed to refer to WWASP programs?

When did she publically start to bash WWASP programs?



"

What is this all about?

[Anonymous]

From my perspective, all this is old news about past affiliations that have sense been severed and regretted; like many of us have experienced in our lives; especially as relates to programs we might have felt one way about, and learned we we're wrong; and so changed our opinion dramatically.

What interest me though, is the name Randle.
I do believe it was a Randle (with Jay's knowledge and help, I've been told) that raped a friend of mine at TB. He (Randel) has gone into hiding, as I understand it. I've herd it said (or seen it written) that it is to avoid program wrath; as he has sense been telling the truth about many events and circumstances at TB, Dundee ect.(which is great, but does not absolve him of his guilt) The victim's family feel it is more to escape justice; and they would like to know where the man is at these days.
If there is someone 'out there' who knows (other than just somewhere in Puerto Rico) the victim's family would sure appreciate your passing the knowledge along.
If you know where he is; then you no doubt also know the situation of which I speak; and who to contact; So I?ll leave it at that.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-02-25 10:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"From my perspective, all this is old news about past affiliations that have sense been severed and regretted; like many of us have experienced in our lives; especially as relates to programs we might have felt one way about, and learned we we're wrong; and so changed our opinion dramatically.



What interest me though, is the name Randle.

I do believe it was a Randle (with Jay's knowledge and help, I've been told) that raped a friend of mine at TB. He (Randel) has gone into hiding, as I understand it. I've herd it said (or seen it written) that it is to avoid program wrath; as he has sense been telling the truth about many events and circumstances at TB, Dundee ect.(which is great, but does not absolve him of his guilt) The victim's family feel it is more to escape justice; and they would like to know where the man is at these days.

If there is someone 'out there' who knows (other than just somewhere in Puerto Rico) the victim's family would sure appreciate your passing the knowledge along.

If you know where he is; then you no doubt also know the situation of which I speak; and who to contact; So I?ll leave it at that.

"

Anon, I get the gist of your post but am confused as to whether you are saying these two Randalls are one in the same or two different people with the same first name?  Please clarify.  

 ::

[Anonymous]

I can't clairify b/c I am not sure. I suspect they may be the same; I do not know that they are.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-01-02 05:35:00, Carey wrote:

""Randall, when a call would come in that had my code on it Randall would get the call.  Randall handled all of my accounts."



Randall worked for 3 WWASP schools for a period of time, and yet he never reported any abuse of children?  He was as CSA, Tranquility Bay and Dundee.  



Well according to an email I recieved from Sue, "he is in hiding, waiting for a protective order,as WWASP has people in the mafia."  When I was fighting legally to protect my kids, she did not want me to conact him for this reason, at least that was the reason she stated in her email.  I don't think so.  I think she did not want me to contact him because the two of them were in cahoots with their referral business with WWASP and she did not want people to know about that.  Plus, a relative of Randall's, works for a competative program, one in which she has referred to.  I wonder if when the referrals started going to this other program if that was around the same time Randall left Dundee? "

I'm confused, did this guy Randall actually work at the 3 programs or did he work for them, as a referral agent?

[Anonymous]

On 2004-01-02 05:35:00, Carey wrote:

""Randall, when a call would come in that had my code on it Randall would get the call.  Randall handled all of my accounts."



Randall worked for 3 WWASP schools for a period of time, and yet he never reported any abuse of children?  He was as CSA, Tranquility Bay and Dundee.  



Well according to an email I recieved from Sue, "he is in hiding, waiting for a protective order,as WWASP has people in the mafia."  When I was fighting legally to protect my kids, she did not want me to conact him for this reason, at least that was the reason she stated in her email.  I don't think so.  I think she did not want me to contact him because the two of them were in cahoots with their referral business with WWASP and she did not want people to know about that.  Plus, a relative of Randall's, works for a competative program, one in which she has referred to.  I wonder if when the referrals started going to this other program if that was around the same time Randall left Dundee? "

Don't know if this is relevant or not, but if you do an Internet search on Randall (or Randy) Hinton, this is one of the URL's that comes up.

http://www.dixiebusinessalliance.com/sh ... /index.php

http://www.dixiebusinessalliance.com

[Anonymous]

This is another good thread to go back and read.

Do you suppose Lee would admit to knowing who Randall is now?

[Anonymous]

"a relative of Randall's, works for a competative program, one in which she has referred to."

Which referral program did Randall Hinton work for and Sue referred to?

[Anonymous]

WWASPS still has over a dozen programs operating all over the world, with kids in them currently, being referred by parents and agencies and EC's. Is Sue referring kids to WWASPs still? If not, then who is? So much attention to someone who referred for a couple months years ago, it would be much more useful and relevant to see some posts about who is doing the referring now.

[Anonymous]

WWASPS still has over a dozen programs operating all over the world, with kids in them currently, being referred by parents and agencies and EC's. Is Sue referring kids to WWASPs still? If not, then who is? So much attention to someone who referred for a couple months years ago, it would be much more useful and relevant to see some posts about who is doing the referring now.

Is THIS the best you can do?  F- for content and originality.

:rofl:

[Anonymous]

Paranoid delusions can be a bitch.

[Anonymous]

WWASPS still has over a dozen programs operating all over the world, with kids in them currently, being referred by parents and agencies and EC's. Is Sue referring kids to WWASPs still? If not, then who is? So much attention to someone who referred for a couple months years ago, it would be much more useful and relevant to see some posts about who is doing the referring now.

All this about Randal an referrals is interesting because it goes to show what a duplicitous, lying skank "She who shall not be named" can be.  Keeping in mind, history repeats itself, I wouldn't want to ignore this.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, history does repeat itself, that's why i want to know who is the current "sue scheff", if it ain't her anymore. I understand people want to get revenge or whatever and feel betrayed and want to go against individuals, but there are lots of us who are still fighting wwasps and are in desperate need of relevant and current information. All a matter of priorities I suppose.