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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2003, 10:19:00 AM »
Was anyone at Elan between the time 94-96, when at the talent show Matt Blickly from E7, preformed and sang the song by (I forgot the groups name)(but really good band I might say) song went something like: "Should I stay or should I go, dah dah dah dah , If go there will be trouble, if I stay it will be dah dah, should I stay or should I go?" some shit like that? and at the end of the song it goes "SPLIT"...lol...and like he got in tons of trouble from our house...he got GM, & shotdown...he said he didnt even think anything of it, he just sang i cause he liked it...


I remember him singing that... didn't know he got a GM for it.  I used to sing a lot at those karaoke things.  I hope it wasn't too painful!  Even today, my wife tells me I can't sing.

I remember this kid from your house, his first name was Rob (don't know his last name) who could sing really well and used to do some Beatles tunes.  He signed out.  Good for him.

Was anyone in Elan for Bobby Joe's ring? She was in my house...E7...She had a 3 house Ring...

I thought she was nice a little butchey, but she was nice to me and never made a pass.

I remember that GM.  Geez, what a day that was.  I remember Janine Losey was in my house and used to always talk about beating Bobbi Jo in cross-country.  It was like an obsession in our house to beat her.

I also remember the way Bobbi Jo used to get her feelings off... she looked like M.C. Hammer.  No offense, Bobbi Jo, if you read this, because from what I hear, you've made a pretty respectable life for yourself.

Math was a joke at Elan.  I took Algebra 2 three times because the math teacher told me (with a grin) that I had absolutely no chance of mastering calculus.

"Has anyone who left Elan on bad terms ever gone back to visit it? Or called to speak to a staff? If yes..what happened? What did they say to you? R u aloud to?"

I called Clare Woodman last year when I went to Maine to go whitewater rafting to see if I could visit Elan and talk to the kids.  She never got back to me.  I did call Marc Rosenberg at home a couple years ago and talked to him for about 20-25 minutes.  He was courteous, though not particularly warm.  I can understand that -- several years ago, I tried to get Elan shut down.

"Does anyone still use the Elan language? and if u dont but hear someone say something in Elan language, doesnt your eyes and teeth cringe by the sound!"

I make it a point to almost NEVER use that language and if I hear someone say "unaware," "disorganized," etc., I usually feel a flash of resentment.  However, since I discovered the true definition of the word "dichotomy" (split between two opposite factions), I use the word occasionally because it's sophisticated.  I used it a couple weeks ago in a letter to the editor of a newspaper.
 

"How many of you can wash the dishes SUPER FAST!!..."

I purposely wash dishes slow as hell and take forever in the shower because I can!  And it's strange... for about two years after leaving, I REFUSED to drink Poland Spring water, which is the dominant brand around here."

"Everything, I do everyday, reminds me of Elan, ever since I joined this chat sight. Its like I think back on so many different thing, details that I made myself forget...i dont kno if its good or bad? maybe its theraputical i think? All I know is I got nightmares about Elan for a while! Dreams that I was trapped in Elan, or dreams that I went back to shw them I was the opposite person they said I was, to finish off the program, and then i would change my mind again and be like, wtf did i do, i want to get out, and id be trapped. crazy shit. i dont want those bad dreams again, but it seems weird that after all these yrs, i am now communicating daily with others who hated elan, sharing simular feelings, and thoughts. is this healthy? i mean i am sure it is wrong to make yourself forget bad things, dont therapists promote communication? and talking about things? to work through it become a stronger person?...i guess..?"

I've tried talking about Elan with a couple therapists.  One helped me get over a lot of anger at the place, the other basically did nothing, but neither really grasped the meaning of what I was saying.  They couldn't.  Only someone who went through concept can. As far as communicating with others, I have learned many different things from people who had different Elan experiences.  The unfortunate part is that so many people who went through Elan are often so judgemental of other people's views.  That's one drawback of Elan -- they encouraged you to judge the hell out of each other based on various unprofessional opinions.  It was a very unprofessional place at times.  

Jordan, what's going on with the documentary?  And E7haterje, who are you?

It's nice to be on this site without being insulted at every turn.  I think I've worked out basically every difference on this site I've had with people, except for one guy who won't identify himself.  If not, anybody wanna fight? LOL j/k
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2003, 10:32:00 AM »
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I am not a vegetarian because I love animals;  I am a vegetarian because I hate plants.  
-- A. Whitney Brown


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Ginger,
It's cool to see you quoting A. Whitney Brown.  I have known him for about 10 years.  We live in the same town.  I know his daughter Serena too, she's pretty cool.
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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2003, 01:15:00 PM »
Really? Pete, I don't even know who that is. I saw the quote somewhere and just about pissed my pants laughing. So there we are. Please feel free to pass along any other of his jewels of wisdom for my collection.

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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2003, 05:03:00 PM »
Whitney is a former feature performer on Saturday Night Live (remember the "Big Picture?") and used to be one of the cast members of the old "Daily Show" on Comedy Central that Craig Kilborn hosted.  He is just as funny in real life.
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2003, 05:04:00 PM »
Wow..Peter very detailed message...you copy pasted everything i said...hmmm....who am i...seems sooo undercover or something about the way you ask?...I am Jenny...was in E7 in 94-12/96 split on my first home visit..had it plotted from shotdown, worked my way to shingle and pretended like a robot and "brought up for a home visit"... :smokin:  :smokin:
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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2003, 05:06:00 PM »
Who are you? Peter Moore? When were u in Elan? What house? I am unsure if I am confusing you with someone else..But I thought I read or heard somewhere that u are bad news? :eek:  :eek:
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2003, 09:09:00 PM »
sweet another split kid. yo pete is cool just got hella harassed round here n other forums, but he is a good man.
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2003, 12:36:00 AM »
I signed in 4 times already! and it says i am not signed in?? i keep getting prompted to enter my passw :silly:  :silly: ord? arg!!<--looks like my sweet mate last year!!haahha....anyways-so Pete is good ok... I remember there was a Peter Iranee in Elan when i first got there your not him r u? I am getting so frustrated with my AIM or whatever...I dont think it s working or something? When I signed off earlier like 13 were like bling bling bling all down my screen...I was like WTF? I got off topic didn't I...Okay...So Peter M. you were in Elan when again? How did u get out?> or did u get out another way?

Jordan- sorry man...don't know whats wrong with my AIM or MSN messenger...just email me. or drop me a private message or somethin? The web site...I dont know it was I think: Mr. Moe's, The White Party and the 93.1 concert, me with the Santa chick were the only ones from 93.1 party(ugh...i look so unenthusiastic I was soo bored!, the deftones concert ones havent been put up yet tot hat sight and those were the ones i was talking about... those r cool!
My Boston trip...I should, I hope to go in 1 week to Boston... I will visit some old friends I met in Great Barrington, that I met year ago and have remained in touch with who I met when I was in The John Dewey Academy. then I will go to Boston and maybe Vermont to visit my cousin. So u do not live in MA? Maybe I'll swing my Elan and get my feelings off for fun??  :razz:  :razz:
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2003, 12:40:00 AM »
Ok now that I know your not like a "ken" or something...

I thought that, that was cute the way you copy pasted everything I asked, or commented on and responded! That was way cool! I dig that!
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2003, 09:41:00 AM »
Jenny,

I was in Elan from Oct. 19, 1993 until June 13, 1996, so yes, our times overlap.  My sister Amanda was in your house from '95 to '98.  I do remember Peter Irani, even though he was in a different house.  I used to think he was nuts for staying past his 18th birthday, until I wound up doing the same thing to save my relationship with my parents (my mother kept crying on the phone until I agreed to stay).  Funny, even though I wasn't going to be allowed to come home, I was going to leave anyway and stay in a homeless shelter if I had to.  A homeless shelter was better than Elan.  But I decided to stay.  Back when houses were allowed to interact, I got along well with a few in your house: Jon Cotteril, Mitch Blasi, etc.  I felt bad for you 7 kids... your house was the worst... courtesy of Tania Merette, a woman who belongs in a mental institution.  Anyway, I eventually graduated, but turned against Elan and they threatened to sue me back in 2000 when I wrote an article for a newspaper detailing 1970s abuses.  So since then, I've laid low and tried to preserve friendships with some of the people there I care about (Marc, Clare, etc.) even though I don't agree with a lot they have to say (and they know it).  There's only a few at Elan whom I believe are genuine jerks (Marty, Tania) who take a genuine pleasure in degrading kids. Most of the rest seem just to be brainwashed automatons.  A few seemed to think for themselves and care (Dave McVety, Marian Carney, Terri Volk, etc.)  Mostly, I think us kids treated each other like crap dispensing amateur therapy under amateur eyes.  I blame the staff for this -- they were entrusted with our care.  

I'm glad you split and made it in the world.  I hear you're participating in the documentary project.  I'm going to help and try to write some chapters from the book, speaking from the first-person perspective of an angry kid.  My language may be off-color, my humor somewhat evil, but I hope to weave together a compelling piece.  I've been a journalist for the last five-plus years, but this is a totally different kind of medium.  Maybe I'll send you the chapters as I work on it.

Take care,
Pete
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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2003, 10:08:00 AM »
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On 2003-12-29 21:40:00, E7haterJe wrote:

"Ok now that I know your not like a "ken" or something...



I thought that, that was cute the way you copy pasted everything I asked, or commented on and responded! That was way cool! I dig that!

 :smile:
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Thank you Jenny.  There were a lot of questions, so you have to address each one individually.  

And Syn, I appreciate the kind words.  BTW, my wife and I bought gift wine for my mom in Oregon.  We got a 2001 Pinot Noir for her.  I wish I could move to Oregon sooner, it's my kind of state.  But the economy out there just sucks.
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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2003, 10:51:00 AM »
the economy is why i left pete. what was the vintage of the wine??
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2003, 07:36:00 PM »
hey anti- have u heard anything good tha might have come out of that meeting they had in fl?
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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2003, 07:57:00 PM »
Hey Peter-
you knew the MitchellBlassi guy??? Do you ave his email? I would love to talk to him...He was cool....Who do you stay in touch with? From 7? Or emails do you have? Peter Irani..ahha...Funny...No comment...I wont say a thing..lol... Rob...which Rob did you know that sang good? Was he from Indiana? Matt Blickly by the way..I used to have a crush on..and your sister was in 7, did they call her Mandy?? If they did a couple of times in group if its her, they used to blame me for having "outside world conversations, or i think they used to call it"glamorizing" with her? If its the same one I thought she was cool, and when i was strngth we used to talk a lot...but i think they put us on a ban...??? Do you remember Wyatt Blair? He was there a long time? He was cool...and Iris Guzman was there a while too..she was SUPER cool...and laid back,,,and got out...(but i tink bc she was in elan before it got so robotic(atleast for 7) I wonder what she is doing I would LOVE to be able to talk to Iris...and also Jackie Pierro...they were my FAVORITE!!!...yu might remember Sara Perkins too..she graduated a while after i got there... Amy..too..she split like me off her 2nd home visit.. (well i split o first) ahaha oh shit..do you remember Teante williams? here was there too in the begining of my stay? Dallas Rhodes? u know who else i had a crush on..Richard Guttierez... ("he graduated" i never snitched...we had a few encounters together...) (i thought) would be shotdown material... and there was a guy from 3 or 8, i dont remember...i used to have a crush on! he was such a cutie! wow..memories...actually there were 2...i digged...oh well...now i can dig whomeever i want and not get in trouble for flirting! :nworthy:  :grin:
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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2003, 08:22:00 PM »
Nope, not a word yet, except that around 20 ppl showed up. The whole meeting is subject to atty/client privilege. So, naturally, ppl aren't going to say too much.

I will kick myself bloody if the lawyers come back in 3 months and say "Well, maybe if more people had shown up..."

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