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Offline Ville_Valo

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« on: December 23, 2003, 03:00:00 PM »
Everyone around here gets angry when people post anonymously, but isn't it obvious the reason why they do?  As soon as someone says who they are they get ripped apart.  I don't understand why you people find so much joy in this?  Why do people (mostly grown men)  Come to this site and accuse eachother of homosexual behaviors.  Stop putting eachother down.  It's really an endless cycle.  No one will win these verbal battles.  If we all had a similar experience of going to Elan, shouldn't we be able to have a place where we can go and be friends with eachother regardless of age, race, or religion.  Don't you people know how bad the things you are saying are?  You could be put in jail for the things you say.  I hope all of you pull it together. And by the way happy holidays.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2003, 03:35:00 PM »
Thats what kens site is for. this site is for bashing elan and people.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2003, 05:00:00 PM »
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On 2003-12-23 12:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Thats what kens site is for. this site is for bashing elan and people."


Thanks for the input, Ken.

Ya'll (Gandalf TG, Anon, Nazi et al excluded) would just be shocked to know just where the most obnoxious content is coming from.

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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2003, 07:04:00 PM »
Of course, I can't be 100% sure. But it looks to me asif a good many of these anons and aliases could be either Ken or ppl working with him.

I banned Nazi's IP because 70 posts in a day constitutes flooding. At that point, it's not a matter of ignoring the bullshit, it's a matter of wasting valuable time just trying to dig through it to find what you're looking for.

We'll see what happens with the rest.

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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2003, 07:41:00 PM »
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"Of course, I can't be 100% sure. But it looks to me asif a good many of these anons and aliases could be either Ken or ppl working with him.



I banned Nazi's IP because 70 posts in a day constitutes flooding. At that point, it's not a matter of ignoring the bullshit, it's a matter of wasting valuable time just trying to dig through it to find what you're looking for.



We'll see what happens with the rest.

Time is running out. The Indians' botanical knowledge is disappearing even faster than the plants themselves.

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REALLY???????????? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2003, 09:05:00 PM »
Are you aware that Ken has posted here only once?  He doesn't come here anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2003, 09:07:00 PM »
*cough* anonnymous user #42 *cough cough*
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2003, 09:22:00 PM »
Are you people special?  I am not Ken, are you dellusional, none of you even know Ken! I know you all hate him for whatever reason, ACTUALLY someone tell me why they hate Ken.  Really Truly.  Dont say because he eats poop or butt rapes dogs.  Tell me real reasons why you guys hate this guy.
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2003, 09:31:00 PM »
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"Are you aware that Ken has posted here only once?  He doesn't come here anymore.  "


Of course I can't be sure, but I have good reason to believe that Ken is Expediter-Trainee aka Anonymouse #42

http://fornits.com/wwf/bb_profile.php?m ... w&user=781

Some people say they have good reason to hate him. I just think it's funny as hell that he claims not to read or post to these forums when we all know better.

Then he goes around allegedly spreading rumors that people ought to keep real quiet about stuff or some other bad guy might hurt them, sue them, set them up somehow, whatever.

He's a fear monger. I think he loved Elan and loves it to this day and just gets his rocks off in a big way off the mindfuck. Your milage may vary. But that's the impression I get from what I've seen of him over the last couple of years.

BTW, how's Andy and his mom doing? Did anyone stay in touch with her after her posts dissapeared from the ElanAlumni website? I hope they're doing alright.

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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2003, 09:51:00 PM »
Sorry, i sohuld have quoted. I didnt mean to say that YOU are ken.

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I only meant that he's been here since he supposedly left. As  his personal hit counter was put up AFTER he made the announcment.. and as you can see i's at 1126 :smile:

I wasnt sure if you knew who "Anonymous user #42" was, i was mearly pointing out the hit counter.
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2003, 10:01:00 PM »
If you guys are serious and you know what you are talking about then Ken is not who he claims to be.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2003, 10:19:00 PM »
Dammit! I thought that 85 Day Jerk was back for a second there...(sigh) oh well, carry on...
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2003, 01:01:00 PM »
I want to know what is sooo bad about Ken.  No one answered my question.  All you said is he comes to this site a lot.  SO what? Im not defending him, I just think most people here are misdirecting anger.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2003, 02:05:00 PM »
Then he goes around allegedly spreading rumors that people ought to keep real quiet about stuff or some other bad guy might hurt them, sue them, set them up somehow, whatever.

He's a fear monger. I think he loved Elan and loves it to this day and just gets his rocks off in a big way off the mindfuck. Your milage may vary. But that's the impression I get from what I've seen of him over the last couple of years.

BTW, how's Andy and his mom doing? Did anyone stay in touch with her after her posts dissapeared from the ElanAlumni website? I hope they're doing alright.


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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2003, 02:44:00 PM »
Valo ,
 I knew ken at elan before he was pulled back in from being a graduate (what he told me as to why he was pulled in blu my mind ) ,for a peroid of time that indeed was longer than 2 weeks .

I had a most unpleasant experience with him on a boat .

I would be willing to talk about these incidents with law enforcement and a judge,because i firmly believe that zaretski deserves prison time for his crimes . I don't believe that this is the place to explictly lay out what went down.

I do believe a court of law is where this should be said and I am patiently waiting .

As for my opinion of the old boy kenny ,I am glad that he has no male children ,due to my belief that he is a true pathological ,preverted ,sociopath freak.

what I also know is that ken does not tell the truth about elan and runs the online version of elan at his site  (afterall we were never allowed to talk bad about the program nor punch holes in it either ) for if we did we would surely pay a painful price as I am sure you remember if you were in elan .

After the most unpleasant experience on the boat,zaretsky became a assistant director  of the bigger house in waterford . it turned my stomach .

I have posted about these incidents (not explictly ) on the elan survivours site w-a-y b-a-c-k in the year 2001. Therefore this is old hat for ken . (And I am much more stable than I was then )

As for elan and it's henchmen  It is my opinion that gottlieb ,mccann,kruglik,and zaretski should spend the rest of their natural lives in  prison (for brutally abusing adults as well as children,by getting the residents to do their dirty work for them ) And of course elan should have its assets frozen and distributed to former residents .

I am also of the opinion that ricci took the easy way out .

Merry christmas to you all.
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