Ridge Creek "School" - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation

[Whooter]

Whoops!  The ORS disagrees with you DJ.  lol

Sometimes when there is a disagreement it is good to look at the original document.  Sexual activity can have many meanings including masturbation, sex, foreplay, flirting etc. as I provided a link for earlier, there was no specifics mentioned in the ORS report about Rape.

So I think we can all agree that the ORS report did not mention that a girl was raped.  If a girl had been raped they would have put it in the report, but they did not.  DJ just made this up, but why?

 As far as the report goes here is a clip:

Based on record review, resident and staff interviews, the agency failed to provide for the needs,
care, protection, and supervision of the children in care;
Findings Include:
(1) During an interviews conducted on September 1, 2010 from 1:00 pm-3:30 pm with Residents
101, 102, 108, 109, 110, and 112 in which all residents acknowledged that they are aware of
residents engaging in sexually inappropriate behavior. It was reported that the residents would
sneak off in designated areas unbeknownst to staff.
(2) Record review on September 1, 2010 of Incident Report dated 06-06-10 for Resident #11
revealed Resident #11 along with 6 other females disclosed to staff an incident involving sexual
activity between Resident #11 and an older male resident. It was documented that Resident #11
appeared upset and stated that what occurred between herself (R11) and the male resident was
an unwelcome encounter.

I was speculating as to why DJ would make up a lie about any of the above kids being raped at RCS and I believe it is probably due the fact that he is still upset about being fired from HLA for selling drugs to kids. If you can think of another reason he would lie I would be open to your input.



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There's still this pesky English language thing.  I understand i's a high hurdle to overcome to be credible, Whooter, but you will have to somehow overcome the dictionary definition and the English language to clear it.  You have been unable to do anything but link to Wikipedia which isn't cutting it.  But let's keep the story of unreported rapes at RCS at the top of the discussion with some facts.

We both agree here that sexual activity can mean a variety of activities from sex, masturbation to flirting.  When people read that there were rapes at RCS they will want to look at the report.  Then they will understand for themselves.  This is part of getting the word out DJ.  The same with the Studies.  If we can get their attention and put the information under peoples noses so that they can read it for themselves then that is half the battle.  

Once they read it for themselves they will make up their own minds.



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No, the dictionary and I agree that "sexual activity" means "sexual intercourse."  Maybe you missed that in about ten of my posts?  

Only you disagree with the dictionary and the English language.

The DHS actually agrees with me and the dictionary, calling this rape "unwanted sexual activity" which is a synonym of rape.

You cited Wikipedia which it's own editors claim "Wikipedia is not considered a credible source."  And neither is Whooter, so the match is made in ignoramus heaven.

[Whooter]

The DHS actually agrees with me and the dictionary

This is where your thinking went wrong, DJ

Sometimes when there is a disagreement it is good to look at the original document.  Sexual activity can have many meanings including masturbation, sex, foreplay, flirting etc. as I provided a link for earlier, there was no specifics mentioned in the ORS report about Rape.

So I think we can all agree that the ORS report did not mention that a girl was raped.  If a girl had been raped they would have put it in the report, but they did not.  DJ just made this up, but why?

 As far as the report goes here is a clip:

Based on record review, resident and staff interviews, the agency failed to provide for the needs,
care, protection, and supervision of the children in care;
Findings Include:
(1) During an interviews conducted on September 1, 2010 from 1:00 pm-3:30 pm with Residents
101, 102, 108, 109, 110, and 112 in which all residents acknowledged that they are aware of
residents engaging in sexually inappropriate behavior. It was reported that the residents would
sneak off in designated areas unbeknownst to staff.
(2) Record review on September 1, 2010 of Incident Report dated 06-06-10 for Resident #11
revealed Resident #11 along with 6 other females disclosed to staff an incident involving sexual
activity between Resident #11 and an older male resident. It was documented that Resident #11
appeared upset and stated that what occurred between herself (R11) and the male resident was
an unwelcome encounter.

I was speculating as to why DJ would make up a lie about any of the above kids being raped at RCS and I believe it is probably due the fact that he is still upset about being fired from HLA for selling drugs to kids. If you can think of another reason he would lie I would be open to your input.



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There's still this pesky English language thing.  I understand i's a high hurdle to overcome to be credible, Whooter, but you will have to somehow overcome the dictionary definition and the English language to clear it.  You have been unable to do anything but link to Wikipedia which isn't cutting it.  But let's keep the story of unreported rapes at RCS at the top of the discussion with some facts.

We both agree here that sexual activity can mean a variety of activities from sex, masturbation to flirting.  When people read that there were rapes at RCS they will want to look at the report.  Then they will understand for themselves.  This is part of getting the word out DJ.  The same with the Studies.  If we can get their attention and put the information under peoples noses so that they can read it for themselves then that is half the battle.  

Once they read it for themselves they will make up their own minds.



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No, the dictionary and I agree that "sexual activity" means "sexual intercourse."  Maybe you missed that in about ten of my posts?  

Only you disagree with the dictionary and the English language.

I think you may not understand what synonyms are, given your difficulty in understnding what a dictionary is, but that's OK, we don't all have the same level of education.

But "rape" and "unwanted sexual activity" mean the same thing, that is, they're synonyms.  Hope that helps.

[Whooter]

I think you may not understand what synonyms are, given your difficulty in understnding what a dictionary is, but that's OK, we don't all have the same level of education.

But "rape" and "unwanted sexual activity" mean the same thing, that is, they're synonyms.  Hope that helps.

Finally you figure it out, you were using a thesaurus (not a dictionary).  You were referring to synonyms, DJ.

Sexual activity can mean masturbation, foreplay, intercourse, flirting, petting, 1st base, 2nd base, 3rd base etc. etc.  If a person had unwanted sexual activity it doesn't mean they were raped.  The ORS deals with these definitions every day.  If a rape occurred they would have stated it and they did not.

You are the only person trying to change the ORS's words to make RCS look bad.  This is because they fired your ass for selling drugs and you were out of a job.  Why else would you spend day in and day out attacking this program?

Bottom line is that you cannot change the ORS's record.

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Nope, it's a dictionary.  Try reading it again and maybe you'll pick up on that.  I noticed you stopped citing your source as well, so I want to remind readers you cited Wikipedia whose own editors claim is not a credible source for your information on sexual activity.  Thanks.

But I am glad you agree that "sexual activity" and "sexual intercourse" mean the same thing like both the dictionary and your thesaurus clearly state.  So we are over that and we all agree this was a rape.

I can't imagine how you could construe my citing the dictionary definition of "sexual activity" as "interpretation."  It's actually quite the opposite of interpretation, now isn't it?  It is, in fact, the definition itself.  I think most people understand this dichotomy.

You picked one interpretation from a Thesaurus, DJ.  If you feel the girl was raped then that is you right.  The ORS does not see it that way and either do I.  

The main thing is that people get to read the reports and studies for themselves and they can decide.  I think this is something we can agree on ...  lets get the information to the readers!



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No wonder you're having so much trouble keeping up with this discussion.  I figured there must have been some root to the ignorance on display and now I understand it.

Here, let me help you again with a definition:

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/we ... 20activity

We can see once more that this is the definition of "sexual activity":

Noun
(n) sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity (activities associated with sexual intercourse) "they had sex in the back seat"

[Whooter]

Forgot my source:
Link

I think you may not understand what synonyms are, given your difficulty in understnding what a dictionary is, but that's OK, we don't all have the same level of education.

But "rape" and "unwanted sexual activity" mean the same thing, that is, they're synonyms.  Hope that helps.

Finally you figure it out, you were using a thesaurus (not a dictionary).  You were referring to synonyms, DJ.

Sexual activity can mean masturbation, foreplay, intercourse, flirting, petting, 1st base, 2nd base, 3rd base etc. etc.  If a person had unwanted sexual activity it doesn't mean they were raped.  The ORS deals with these definitions every day.  If a rape occurred they would have stated it and they did not.

You are the only person trying to change the ORS's words to make RCS look bad.  This is because they fired your ass for selling drugs and you were out of a job.  Why else would you spend day in and day out attacking this program?

Bottom line is that you cannot change the ORS's record.

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Forgot my source:
Link

I think you may not understand what synonyms are, given your difficulty in understnding what a dictionary is, but that's OK, we don't all have the same level of education.

But "rape" and "unwanted sexual activity" mean the same thing, that is, they're synonyms.  Hope that helps.

Finally you figure it out, you were using a thesaurus (not a dictionary).  You were referring to synonyms, DJ.

Sexual activity can mean masturbation, foreplay, intercourse, flirting, petting, 1st base, 2nd base, 3rd base etc. etc.  If a person had unwanted sexual activity it doesn't mean they were raped.  The ORS deals with these definitions every day.  If a rape occurred they would have stated it and they did not.

You are the only person trying to change the ORS's words to make RCS look bad.  This is because they fired your ass for selling drugs and you were out of a job.  Why else would you spend day in and day out attacking this program?

Bottom line is that you cannot change the ORS's record.

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From your source: "Wikipedia is not considered a credible source."

We can't just change the English language to try to rationalize unreported rapes, Whooter, sorry.

I never worked at RCS, so that's a huge problem with your argument.  I haven't even been to Georgia in over ten years, so your credibility is a bit shot at this point, buddy.

[Whooter]

From your source: "Wikipedia is not considered a credible source."

Ha,Ha,Ha  now you are trying to discredit Wikipedia.  Nobody is credible unless they agree with DJ.  That was a classic, I needed that.



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No, you're trying to discredit the dictionary by citing wikipedia and wikipedia itself states it is not credible, therefore neither are you or your argument.

From your source: "Wikipedia is not considered a credible source."

Ha,Ha,Ha  now you are trying to discredit Wikipedia.  Nobody is credible unless they agree with DJ.  That was a classic, I needed that.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use

Oops!  There goes your "source."  Don't worry, you can always go back to calling people child molesters, that seems to work for you when facts don't.

[Whooter]

No, you're trying to discredit the dictionary by citing wikipedia and wikipedia itself states it is not credible, therefore neither are you or your argument.

From your source: "Wikipedia is not considered a credible source."

Ha,Ha,Ha  now you are trying to discredit Wikipedia.  Nobody is credible unless they agree with DJ.  That was a classic, I needed that.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use



Oops!  There goes your "source."  Don't worry, you can always go back to calling people child molesters, that seems to work for you when facts don't.

For academic use, DJ.  Again you are trying to mislead the readers.  Why do you try to do this all the time?  Why not be honest and just state the offical record as it is written by the ORS?

I can see why RCS fired you.  You lied about having a felony conviction and you mislead people all the time.  You mislead RCS on your employment application.

This is the phrase of the day so far, lol, DJ trys to discredit Wikipedia!

From your source: "Wikipedia is not considered a credible source."

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So when I quote your own source saying it isn't credible, you think it's funny?  Huh.  Your entire argument just got flushed down the toilet with your "premise" that I worked at RCS which I clearly never did.  You're having trouble with truth telling today, as usual.

Wikipedia is not considered a credible source.

Pretty simple, eh, champ?  I guess we'll be back to "the dictionary got fired from RCS so it was disgruntled and changed its definitions to suit its agenda" again?  Lols.  You're out there, buddy.

[Whooter]

I understand your need to discredit every source that disagrees with your thinking, even the ORS  lol.  But the facts are just not going to go away because they upset you.  so back to the ORS report:

It is possible that they had sex, but we dont know.  The ORS report did not say that a rape occurred  There are so many other possibilities.

Human sexual activities or human sexual practices or human sexual behavior refers to the manner in which humans experience and express their sexuality. People engage in a variety of sexual acts from time to time, and for a wide variety of reasons. Sexual activity normally results in sexual arousal and physiological changes in the aroused person, some of which are pronounced while others are more subtle. The objective of sexual activity in humans is typically to achieve orgasm. Sexual activity also includes conduct and activities which are intended to arouse the sexual interest of another, such as strategies to find or attract partners (mating and display behavior), and personal interactions between individuals, such as flirting and foreplay.

Link

So to come out and say the girl was raped is a lie because the facts are not there to support that conclusion as reported by the ORS report.  I think you are a little biased and are jumping to conclusions, DJ, in an effort to try and make the school look bad because of your past experiences and employment history.



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The girl was raped, RCS didn't report it and DHS uncovered that in their investigation.  That's what we have so far, yes.

[Whooter]

The girl was raped, RCS didn't report it and DHS uncovered that in their investigation.  That's what we have so far, yes.

Someone should tell the ORS!  After you let them know pop a link up on the board of their revised report.  So far the rape is all in your head DJ.  You can try to discredit the DHS if you like and add them to your list for today.  No one has mentioned the word rape except you DJ, you are delusional.

You are a comedian today, classic stuff.  



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