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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #255 on: December 17, 2010, 01:54:14 PM »
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I think the kids and staff are already in danger.

Quote from: "ORS Report on RCS/HLA Prison Camp"
Based on record review, resident and staff interviews, the agency failed to provide for the needs,
care, protection, and supervision of the children in care;
Findings Include:
(1) During an interviews conducted on September 1, 2010 from 1:00 pm-3:30 pm with Residents
101, 102, 108, 109, 110, and 112 in which all residents acknowledged that they are aware of
residents engaging in sexually inappropriate behavior. It was reported that the residents would
sneak off in designated areas unbeknownst to staff.

(2) Record review on September 1, 2010 of Incident Report dated 06-06-10 for Resident #11
revealed Resident #11 along with 6 other females disclosed to staff an incident involving sexual
activity between Resident #11 and an older male resident. It was documented that Resident #11
appeared upset and stated that what occurred between herself (R11) and the male resident was
an unwelcome encounter.

This girl was raped by a male inmate due to lack of supervision.

So based on this definition, 99% of all kids in highschool are raped !! OMG!!!  Lets wait for the swat team to come in.  2 teenagers had sex with one another.

Its just paper work, DJ.  Imagine the number of reports there would be if your local highschool had to write a report everytime one of their students has sex lol.


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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #256 on: December 17, 2010, 01:56:26 PM »
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It was documented that Resident #11
appeared upset and stated that what occurred between herself (R11) and the male resident was
an unwelcome encounter.

In other words, she was raped.

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So based on this definition, 99% of all kids in highschool are raped !! OMG!!! Lets wait for the swat team to come in. 2 teenagers had sex with one another.

No one teenaged boy raped a younger girl.
 
You mean that 99% of highschool students are victims of "unwanted sexual contact"?  I'd have to see your stats on that load of BS.

I don't think it's funny that you are making light of this girl being raped by a male inmate.  In fact, I find it thoroughly disgusting and shows you have a really sick mind.  You need help, man.  Look at what you are posting.

You have previously described another poster's rape at the tender age of 7 years old as "unprotected sex" as well.  Maybe you should educate yourself about what rape is and what a serious crime it is.  Your comments are disgusting.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #257 on: December 17, 2010, 01:58:51 PM »
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You mean that 99% of highschool students are victims of "unwanted sexual contact"?  I'd have to see your stats on that load of BS.

I don't think it's funny that you are making light of this girl being raped by a male inmate.  In fact, I find it thoroughly disgusting and shows you have a really sick mind.  You need help, man.  Look at what you are posting.

It was not rape,DJ.  Read the report and check the local newspapers.  The state would have reported it.  You are starting to get desperate and lying again.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #258 on: December 17, 2010, 02:07:58 PM »
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Resident #11 along with 6 other females disclosed to staff an incident involving sexual
activity between Resident #11 and an older male resident. It was documented that Resident #11
appeared upset and stated that what occurred between herself (R11) and the male resident was
an unwelcome encounter.

This fits the definition of rape.

Rape is defined as "the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual relations."  This girl already said it was "unwelcome" so she obvioulsy was forced.  Are you really this ignorant or do you have some history with this type of crime that you're trying to rationalize?

Plus, we already know that HLA/RCS prison camp doesn't report crimes to the police.  They cover them up, as evidenced by the LCSO statement that they didn't know a counselor was assaulted with a lamp to the head because the prison only reported a "runaway" and never told them about the battery/attempted murder.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #259 on: December 17, 2010, 03:55:00 PM »
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Resident #11 along with 6 other females disclosed to staff an incident involving sexual
activity between Resident #11 and an older male resident. It was documented that Resident #11
appeared upset and stated that what occurred between herself (R11) and the male resident was
an unwelcome encounter.

This fits the definition of rape.

Rape is defined as "the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual relations."  This girl already said it was "unwelcome" so she obvioulsy was forced.  Are you really this ignorant or do you have some history with this type of crime that you're trying to rationalize?

Plus, we already know that HLA/RCS prison camp doesn't report crimes to the police.  They cover them up, as evidenced by the LCSO statement that they didn't know a counselor was assaulted with a lamp to the head because the prison only reported a "runaway" and never told them about the battery/attempted murder.

But you were not there, DJ.  The ORS did not define it as rape only you did.  Are you saying we should not believe the report?  If a child was raped the ORS would report it that way, they understand the definition of rape probably better than you and I do.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #260 on: December 17, 2010, 04:24:54 PM »
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Resident #11 along with 6 other females disclosed to staff an incident involving sexual
activity between Resident #11 and an older male resident. It was documented that Resident #11
appeared upset and stated that what occurred between herself (R11) and the male resident was
an unwelcome encounter.

This fits the definition of rape.

Rape is defined as "the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual relations."  This girl already said it was "unwelcome" so she obvioulsy was forced.  Are you really this ignorant or do you have some history with this type of crime that you're trying to rationalize?

The report state "sexual activity".  There was no mention of physical force.  Sexual activity could be that he exposed himself to her or masturbated in front of her.  Maybe she invited him in and was caught and now feels embarrassed or does not want to get punished for breaking the rules.  Maybe she doesnt want her parents to think she was having sex.. etc.  But the only one who mentions rape is you, DJ.

You are an obvious disgruntled ex-employee who still holds anger towards the program which rejected you and you spend your years trying to get even and you will never satisfy your rage and drive because the program will continue on just fine without you.  You dont matter to them and they probably dont even remember you.  The information you post is almost always false or embellished just like this view of rape.  This is obvious even to first time readers.  Your energy and rage never match the events.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #261 on: December 17, 2010, 07:09:13 PM »
So John, when can we expect to see that 99% stat from you? While you're evading that, tell us what you would term an "unwanted sexual act" as? Also I'm wondering why you would stupidly classify not conducting criminal back round checks on what RC classifies as "troubled teens" is merely a paper work issue, and not a safety one. Let us know Johnny.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #262 on: December 17, 2010, 07:25:33 PM »
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So John, when can we expect to see that 99% stat from you? While you're evading that, tell us what you would term an "unwanted sexual act" as? Also I'm wondering why you would stupidly classify not conducting criminal back round checks on what RC classifies as "troubled teens" is merely a paper work issue, and not a safety one. Let us know Johnny.

Unwanted sexual act could be flirting, exposing himself etc. (which is wrong) but does not constitute rape as DJ implies.

As far as the background check goes.  Lets say you have a student who was in the program for 14 months and then he turns 18 years old.  On that day you need to perform a background check on him because all residents need to have a background check done if they are over 18 years of age.  The kid turned 18 and they didnt do the check.  What would they find?  anything under 18 years of age would be sealed and all his time after 18 years of age was spent at RCS.  Its a formality basically.  They know the kids better than anyone else at that point.
I believe it is a good requirement, but doing background checks on students who turned 18 while in the program is not that critical in my opinion.  since the background check takes time there will always be a period of time where they are in non compliance from when he turns 18 until the time they get the results back.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #263 on: December 17, 2010, 07:27:56 PM »
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Well, show us one prison which sends their prisoners to wilderness for fighting

Who said they did John? Provide a link.

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The readers know that you and DJ/troll control are full of crap,

Based on what John? Still believe you can read minds? No matter, provide a link John. Meanwhile keep in mind you've been caught in countless lies. What must the readers think of you?

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prisons dont do that they lock the prisoners down and further isolate them. You guys just make up whatever suits you at the time

Like what Johnny? Be specific and provide links. While you're evading that you should be made aware of the fact that HLA did lock kids up, and did isolate them. I personally experienced this, and I witnessed numerous other kids suffering the same punishment. They even had a little empty cabin off the main entrance road over by Susie Bullfrogs house built for that very purpose. Remember Johnny, we were there, you were not, our testimony will forever carry more weight than yours. The only time you were ever there is when you dropped off the son you didn't murder.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #264 on: December 17, 2010, 07:38:04 PM »
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Well, show us one prison which sends their prisoners to wilderness for fighting

Who said they did John? Provide a link.

We were taking about ORS writing up RCS for sending a child to wilderness for fighting and DJ indicated that it was like being in prison.  From what I have read about prisons typically further isolate inmates who engage in fighting.

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Eight days of wilderness for a fight? That doesn't seem like the punishment a "regular high school kid" would get for fighting. Maybe a one or two day suspension. This juvenile prison uses methods that are very harsh and outside the law according to the official reports.

This is more like a prison camp than a school.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #265 on: December 17, 2010, 07:41:16 PM »
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Like what Johnny? Be specific and provide links. While you're evading that you should be made aware of the fact that HLA did lock kids up, and did isolate them. I personally experienced this, and I witnessed numerous other kids suffering the same punishment. They even had a little empty cabin off the main entrance road over by Susie Bullfrogs house built for that very purpose. Remember Johnny, we were there, you were not, our testimony will forever carry more weight than yours. The only time you were ever there is when you dropped off the son you didn't murder.

You were there 3 weeks, Bruce, the rest you just make up or take from other people stories who actually did some work to straighten themselves out.

You didnt provide one link in you post by the way.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #266 on: December 17, 2010, 07:43:16 PM »
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Again you are lying (caught in a big one this time, Bobby) and this further supports that you just make up whatever suits you that day. Here is an account of a staff person from RCS just a few pages back:

Pay closer attention Johnny. The year I spent locked up in HLA was several years prior to Ridge Creek even existing. The situation the staff member is describing hadn't even been created yet. Therefore any claim by you made insisting that my experiences at HLA are somehow invalidated by the statements made by a staffer at a seperate program more than a decade later would be pointless and stupid.

Whoops Johnny, looks like you're bust again.

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You mean, DJ and yourself, yes We do agree here.

On what?

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The difference between your account, DJ's and myself is that I provide links to support my facts.


Which ones? Also when can I look forward to more links from you? I've been asking you to provide them for quite a long time. So far you've come up empty.

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I just exposed several lies you and DJ told to the readers in the last 2 posts.

Which lies? You were confused Johnny, and ended up looking foolish again because you didnt check your facts first. Nothing new.

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The absence of links on your end and the presence of links on my end always gets you guys in trouble.


When did that happen? In truth you normally just to link to some random posting that in no way corroborates yowhatever current lie you're telling. I don't know if that' something you really want to brag about Johnny.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #267 on: December 17, 2010, 07:53:36 PM »
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Unwanted sexual act could be flirting, exposing himself etc. (which is wrong) but does not constitute rape as DJ implies.

As far as the background check goes. Lets say you have a student who was in the program for 14 months and then he turns 18 years old. On that day you need to perform a background check on him because all residents need to have a background check done if they are over 18 years of age. The kid turned 18 and they didnt do the check. What would they find? anything under 18 years of age would be sealed and all his time after 18 years of age was spent at RCS. Its a formality basically. They know the kids better than anyone else at that point.
I believe it is a good requirement, but doing background checks on students who turned 18 while in the program is not that critical in my opinion. since the background check takes time there will always be a period of time where they are in non compliance from when he turns 18 until the time they get the results back.


And the six other girls who made the same complaint against the same kid, were they just flirting as well? The truth is Johnny, you don't know what happened, other than it was something worth reporting, and something the ORS agent felt it worth writing up. That sounds like it might be a little more than flirting.


As far as backround checks go, remember that letter from Clarke Poole? Remember that kid he mentioned, the Hanibal Lector, whom I believe raped his little sister. I wonder if a backround check would have been a good idea with him. What do you think?

 Of course no matter how heinous the incident might be you will forever attempt to water it down in an effort to not scare off parents or investors due to your fiduciary interest. Right buddy?
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #268 on: December 17, 2010, 07:56:04 PM »
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Again you are lying (caught in a big one this time, Bobby) and this further supports that you just make up whatever suits you that day. Here is an account of a staff person from RCS just a few pages back:

Pay closer attention Johnny. The year I spent locked up in HLA was several years prior to Ridge Creek even existing.

The 3 weeks you spent at HLA, you mean.  Lets not move past this right now Bruce.  We both know that you are lying and the readers are not going to buy it.  You told me a story about how you kicked a staff person in the face and ran away and the police picked you up.  This was after being there 3 weeks.  You never had to endure anything at HLA.  you never applied yourself and your MO has always been to run away.  You have since edited your post and I understand why.
I received confirmation from someone who knew you from HLA.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #269 on: December 17, 2010, 08:02:05 PM »
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You were there 3 weeks, Bruce,

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Whoops. Looks like you forgot to provide a link.  :seg:
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