Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Ridge Creek "School" - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
Whooter:
Heretik, I would be glad to discuss my qualifications to speak here on fornits with you and my motivations in another thread.
We are all getting off topic here a bit.....
The one area where we all seem to agree is the safety of the kids. The DHS does periodic inspections , they record their findings and the schools make changes. It is an ongoing process. RCS is not the only place the DHS visits. They regulate many schools. Some of the findings are serious while others are not so serious. If they felt children were being raped or the kids were in danger or the school should be closed then they would say it (thats their job), but they have not said this or made motions to have the school closed. So DHS feels the children are in a safe environment. No matter how many staff RCS hires or how much training they provide the kids are going to act out, get into fights and hurt each other and the staff. Their employees are going to forget to document items and events from time to time, they are going to make mistakes and the DHS will hold their feet to the fire to insure they get better and continue to improve.
Its an ongoing process for every business, not just RCS.
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heretik:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Heretik, I would be glad to discuss my qualifications to speak here on fornits with you and my motivations in another thread.
We are all getting off topic here a bit.....
The one area where we all seem to agree is the safety of the kids. The DHS does periodic inspections , they record their findings and the schools make changes. It is an ongoing process. RCS is not the only place the DHS visits. They regulate many schools. Some of the findings are serious while others are not so serious. If they felt a children were being raped or the kids were in danger or the school should be closed then they would say it, but they have not. No matter how many staff RCS hires or how much training they provide the kids are going to act out, get into fights and hurt each other and the staff. Their employees are going to forget to document items and events from time to time, they are going to make mistakes and the DHS will hold their feet to the fire to insure they get better and continue to improve.
Its an ongoing process for every business, not just RCS.
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No, this isn't off topic at all talking about your qualifications to discuss and argue RCS- Safety Issues. Actually it is paramount to this whole discussion. How can anyone take you seriously concerning this topic when you have extremely limited knowledge of what you are talking about. When you type exactly almost verbatim what others have wrote here and claim to have some sincere vested interest in the topic.
Whooter everyone here already knows the function of DHS you are not giving us any new info there, even your common lay person could figure this out. Here we go again (for the umpteenth time) with yours games, example: ("If they felt a children were being raped or the kids were in danger or the school should be closed then they would say it, but they have not.") Many children have cried out and lawsuits have been filed and won, programs have been shut down and fines have been levied against programs. (but you already knew this) These arguments/statements you put up here are ridiculously hollow of any real studied thought. They are quip responses that any person could make. The only qualification you have mentioned at all for the time you have been here is your supposed daughter being in a Aspen program.
Another example: ("Their employees are going to forget to document items and events from time to time, they are going to make mistakes and the DHS will hold their feet to the fire to insure they get better and continue to improve.")
Just like you do when you have a busy day at home, Whooter. You are so cavalier with your statements when it concerns children. Just take a look at your response above. You want us to believe that you care about children and their welfare in these programs and yet out of the other side of your mouth you enable the staff to be careless and negligent in their duties to report. Yeah, they just forget sometimes to be responsible and annotate the times and events but ya know DHS will hold their feet to the fire (your words). Lets put it all on DHS to make sure programs are responsible for their children.
What I have written here is essentially what I have a problem with you and your postings concerning RCS- Violations. There are serious violations going on, this is a watch dog group advocating for childrens rights at RCS and we have every right to question your integrity and your qualifications here or on any thread. Once again I am not attacking you, Whooter. I am confronting you on your authenticity concerning the TTI.
Jill Ryan:
Does anyone happen to know where the other threads went under RCS?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "heretik" ---No, this isn't off topic at all talking about your qualifications to discuss and argue RCS- Safety Issues. Actually it is paramount to this whole discussion. How can anyone take you seriously concerning this topic when you have extremely limited knowledge of what you are talking about. When you type exactly almost verbatim what others have wrote here and claim to have some sincere vested interest in the topic.
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If we can keep the discussion on RCS and the ORS violations then I will continue to respond to you in this thread. As far as your qualifications to speak on the subject or mine that is up for the individual readers to determine. If they feel you or I have limited knowledge of DHS then they can take it with a grain of salt.
I agree that lawsuits have been filed and programs have been shut down and children have been abused in certain programs. But this does not occur in all programs. DHS is regulating RCS and if they feel at any point that kids are being abused or are unsafe then they will write this in their report and recommend the school be closed. But they have not done this yet.
Kids are going to fight each other and staff no matter how much training you provide. This is not unique to RCS. The key is to provide the appropriate training and take measures to continuously improve their process. When RCS hires a new person they will undergo some type of training presumably. If this new person forgets to file something correctly or document an event then the inspectors will pick this up. If a staff member gets involved in a restraint without having the proper training then this needs to be reported and corrective action taken to insure this does not happen again. They will point this out to the school and it will need to be addressed. It doesn’t mean that no one cares about the kids. People make mistakes, it is in our nature. If RCS ignores the reports and fails to make changes then DHS will go after them.
As far as my credentials to speak here on fornits on the topic of ORS reports I don’t see how this is an issue. I have never asked for yours. I have experience in the industry, I have had a daughter in wilderness and at a program. I have spoken to many parents and have read extensively here on fornits over the years. I am sure you bring some personal experience to the discussion also and would not fault you on your limitations in any one area. I think it is good that everyone express their opinions and share their knowledge no matter how limited it is.
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Whooter:
Here is a summary of the first few DHS findings from page 1:
1)Failure to Allow Access
Computer system was down
2)Insufficient Staffing:
Fight broke out and there were not enough staff available in the area to help out.
3) Reporting
Failed to provide summary reports within 24 hours.
4) Residents shall not be permitted to participate in the behavior management of other residents or to discipline others.
Residents were attacking each other over a racial slur.
5) Provisions for the documentation of each use of an emergency safety intervention including.....
A safety intervention was not documented.
6) Behavior management shall be limited to the least restrictive appropriate method, as described in the child's service plan pursuant to Rule..
Child sent back to wilderness for fighting
7) Each child shall be provided his or her own personal bed and mattress that is no shorter than the child's height and at least thirty inches wide. Clean sheets, pillows and pillow cases, blankets or bed covering shall be provided and sheets and pillow case.
Child in wilderness said they did not have a mattress.
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