Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

[Whooter]

You have never provided a single post of mine that shows I lied. I posted a dozen of yours today that prove you did. All you can do is troll to try to make it go away, but it doesn't.

I just provide 2 posts that showed you lied about your education, DJ.  Then I showed you lied about leaving the TTI industry because you were disillusioned when really you tried to get a 3 rd job but since you had a criminal history you were denied.

Whootie, I wonder what it is like being you.  I really do.  So what if I lied about my education, this is just some stupid forum for people like you to spend your lives endlessly.  You are an industry sockpuppet and you will say and do anything to support he industry.  You are a desperate troll.  I just showed the world that you went to jail.

Whoa, DJ, calm down.  I was arrested because I was protesting.  I was trying to help people,  I am glad you came thru and admitted that you lied about your education.  That seems to be big for you.

Just some advice would be to just be yourself.  You don’t need to pretend to  have a PhD to discuss the issues here, just try to contribute more and maybe share your experiences as a staff person.  I think you can add a lot of insight and value here on fornits.



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[RobertBruce]

I love it when you make it this easy John

RobertBruce, you are writing gibberish.....

Slow down John. Remember your training, start from the left and work your way towards the right. Letters make words, words make sentences. Sound it out buddy, you'll get there.

first, why would you travel to Newark, NJ to attend a meeting with TTI people when you have no connect to the industry

No connection to the industry? Never attended a program?

Here John, have a helping of your own words:

We both have connections to the industry..you attended a program and I had a daughter attend one.

Gotta love that quote feature don't you John?

How could just friends agree upon the number 20,000?

Well like I said, it was a rough estimate. Given the number of programs in existence, and the number of years the industry has been around it seemed a good ball park figure. What would you estimate?

You must have had industry buy in on that.Why was the meeting kept so secret if you claim to be open and honest here on fornits

We didn't want any industry trolls like you showing up and gate crashing the party. There was nothing or any of your child abusing pals could add to the discussion, so there was no point in inviting you.

Why do you refer to yourself as a survivor if you never went to a program? That doesn't make any sense to me. Until you can answer that and straighten out your post I cant see how we can move forward with an honest discussion

Wait a second John, your earlier comments seem to acknowledge that I was locked up in a program. Further how can you claim to have access to my records at HLA if you're now claiming I never attended? This doesnt make any sense John.

So then the now that your questions have been answered, mine remain for you whenever you work up the courage. Why would you attend a meeting with fornits posters to discuss safety in the TBS? Your make believe daughter was no longer incarcerated by that point. Also why have you changed your mind regarding starvation diets employed as a punishment?

[RobertBruce]

Interesting point to note; The conversation in question where John is discussing 'where the real money is' was part of his conversatation detailing the meeting he attended. John if the meeting was just for fornits posters why would you be discussing what you believe to be the cash cow of the TBS industry is?

[Whooter]

You have never provided a single post of mine that shows I lied. I posted a dozen of yours today that prove you did. All you can do is troll to try to make it go away, but it doesn't.

I just provide 2 posts that showed you lied about your education, DJ.  Then I showed you lied about leaving the TTI industry because you were disillusioned when really you tried to get a 3 rd job but since you had a criminal history you were denied.

Whootie, I wonder what it is like being you.  I really do.  So what if I lied about my education, this is just some stupid forum for people like you to spend your lives endlessly.  You are an industry sockpuppet and you will say and do anything to support he industry.  You are a desperate troll.  I just showed the world that you went to jail.

Whoa, DJ, calm down.  I was arrested because I was protesting.  I was trying to help people,  I am glad you came thru and admitted that you lied about your education.  That seems to be big for you.

Just some advice would be to just be yourself.  You don’t need to pretend to  have a PhD to discuss the issues here, just try to contribute more and maybe share your experiences as a staff person.  I think you can add a lot of insight and value here on fornits.



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[Whooter]

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[Troll Control]

I'm sure you have a "before" and "after" snapshot of the post, right?  I'm sure you can positively identify the exact "changes" right?  Of course you can't because nothing was changed as previously discussed.  

You get all pissy because I QFT you and call you out on the specific changes you make to try to avoid accountability.  You have nothing.  That's why you get so upset and make up dialogue for which you have no links while you demand links from others and call them "fabricators."  What a crybaby!

Let's recap some of the things you did say and can't escape while you make up quotes I didn't say.

Anyone who has read my posts know I dont work towards getting someone fired or discrediting them. If there is a specific post which lead you to believe that was my intent you can put up a link and we can talk about it.

See below.  No links to the OP, just a link to Whooter's post.  Let's talk about it, Whooter.  Why did you lie in this post to try to discredit me?

How was I suppose to figure out that Wilderness programs run an average of 2 weeks and cost $6,000 and TBS’s run an average of 12 – 16 months and cost 70,000 – to -$100,000.  If I knew that,  then yeah I could agree that the TBS was "where the real money is"

You have thought that since I “knew where the real money was” then that meant I was an industry person.  But what it really revealed is that there is a really good chance that you never earned an MBA to not figure out basic business math like that.  Anyone with any business knowledge could figure that out in their head, DJ.  So you see you shot yourself in the foot by claiming only and industry person could figure this out and by saying that you showed us that you had no business degree.


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Whooter is what he accuses others of.  Funny, huh?  And this guy expects people to believe what he says for what reason now?

Whoops!  Your original post shows you were at a TTI meeting in Chicago lecturing your cronies about "where the real money is."  What "regular parent" flies 1200 miles from home to go to meetings about how to make "the real money" off struggling families?

Oh no no no Cindy, you claimed there was a "long debate" and that it was decided that "we" were only going to look at TBS's as you define them.

Who specifically is "we"?

The debate was long, Bob...  many wanted to start with "Wilderness data" and I argued that the real money was in the TBS industry, so lets start there, although wilderness is usually the inital phase of any decent TBS.  So we went round and round....you, Bob have been a key player in collecting and presenting data on the entire industry and I have been focusing on small segments at a time.
I dont want to put names out there, people want to be anon's.

You're a complete phony.  Everyone can see this.  All this trolling just to try to protect your income.

When is this supposed to take place?

Well the  announcement takes place after the lawyers sign off on the deal, but they usually wait until the transfer is ready to take place.
The legal transfer typically takes place at the beginning of the new quarter (or fiscal year).
So based on this I would expect the announcement would come at anytime and the transfer could occur on Tuesday October 1, 2007 or early January 2008.



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How is it that you are in a position to have knowledge about the acquisition of HLA?

I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved,  this could be misconstrued as “Tippingâ€

What "regular parent" is a fiduciary of Aspen Education?  You're not fooling anyone.

[Whooter]

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[Troll Control]

Man, that "fiduciary duty" quote really makes you mad, huh?  Also that trip to Chicago is a thorn in your side.  Not to mention your admission that you have "first hand knowledge of the screening process" in programs and "have seen kids being rejected."  Also that one about "where the real money is" gets you.

Regular parent?  Yeah, sure.  Whooter is a TTI employee.  He admitted it.  Now he's all BAWWW over it. :waaaa:  :waaaa:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

[Whooter]

Fact One: This post shows Dysfunction Junction worked at Daytop at one time. It also shows that he had a felony conviction and prison sentance.

Fact Two: He no longer works in the TBS field. According to him he got disillusioned with the industry. I suspect he isn't allowed to be employed by them with a previous felony conviction as most TBS's do background checks for most of their employees usually.

I'll bust your fucking teeth down your throat, choke you until you nearly fall unconscious, then give you a wake-up kick to the temple and send you on your merry way.  Your pain, suffering and disfigurement wouldn't matter .......

Look, DJ, you dont need to threaten everyone that disagrees with you.  I think we all know that if it were not for your criminal past that you would still be working in the TT industry instead of posting here on fornits to establish a resume that doesnt exist in real life.  Maybe when you took this anger of yours out on the kids is why HLA decide to release you.  I believe you have a past post where you admitted this unless you edited it out all ready.



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[Troll Control]

Looks like you're describing a session you had with a minor you were intake screening, Whooter.  Funny how your comments reflect so deeply upon your own experiences.  You really do have some violent sexual fantasies.  It's hard to imagine you didn't act on them when you were alone with those kids.  You're really sick.

[Whooter]

You have never provided a single post of mine that shows I lied. I posted a dozen of yours today that prove you did. All you can do is troll to try to make it go away, but it doesn't.

I just provide 2 posts that showed you lied about your education, DJ.  Then I showed you lied about leaving the TTI industry because you were disillusioned when really you tried to get a 3 rd job but since you had a criminal history you were denied.

Whootie, I wonder what it is like being you.  I really do.  So what if I lied about my education, this is just some stupid forum for people like you to spend your lives endlessly.  You are an industry sockpuppet and you will say and do anything to support he industry.  You are a desperate troll.  I just showed the world that you went to jail.

Whoa, DJ, calm down.  I was arrested because I was protesting.  I was trying to help people,  I am glad you came thru and admitted that you lied about your education.  That seems to be big for you.

Just some advice would be to just be yourself.  You don’t need to pretend to  have a PhD to discuss the issues here, just try to contribute more and maybe share your experiences as a staff person.  I think you can add a lot of insight and value here on fornits.



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[Whooter]

Whoops! Your original post shows you were at a TTI meeting in Chicago lecturing your cronies about "where the real money is." What "regular parent" flies 1200 miles from home to go to meetings about how to make "the real money" off struggling families?

Lets look at that post again, DJ,
by TheWho » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:29 am

Well, I PM?d several people here on fornits and eventually we formed a ?Statistical group? and decided to meet at the Hyatt in Chicago about a month ago. We spent 3 days hammering out a direction and figured we would tackle the TBS sector first. We felt you were well respected here at fornits and had your hands around the other areas and were doing fine independently. Your name was brought up several times so you were not forgotten or left out.

Look, Fuck you Whootie, you sock puppet twit.  The whole point is that you are an industry player.  If I wanted to show the readers the original post I would have done that.  But if I dont show the original then that is up to me.  Stay the fuck out of my posts.  Let me tell my own story.

Lol, Wow, DJ, the truth hurts.  You are really getting desperate here.  If you want to try to make people believe I am meeting with industry people that is fine.  I just wanted the readers to be aware of the original post that’s all.



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[Ursus]

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

[Whooter]

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Sure, just like everyone else.



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[Whooter]

Fact One: This post shows Dysfunction Junction worked at Daytop at one time. It also shows that he had a felony conviction and prison sentance.

Fact Two: He no longer works in the TBS field. According to him he got disillusioned with the industry. I suspect he isn't allowed to be employed by them with a previous felony conviction as most TBS's do background checks for most of their employees usually.

I'll bust your fucking teeth down your throat, choke you until you nearly fall unconscious, then give you a wake-up kick to the temple and send you on your merry way.  Your pain, suffering and disfigurement wouldn't matter .......

Look, DJ, you dont need to threaten everyone that disagrees with you.  I think we all know that if it were not for your criminal past that you would still be working in the TT industry instead of posting here on fornits to establish a resume that doesnt exist in real life.  Maybe when you took this anger of yours out on the kids is why HLA decide to release you.  I believe you have a past post where you admitted this unless you edited it out all ready.



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