Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

[Whooter]

Sorry you are so angry over this, DJ, but you had it coming. You have been trolling this forum for months and years as everyone can attest. If you look at your past 50 posts they are all junk and add no value to any discussion.

Ever since your trolling privileges were taken away, via having to log in, your true colors have come out. You cant post anonymously anymore and now that I caught you in yet another lie you had the need to go back and try to erase your past posts.

Going forward I would suggest you try to join the flow of conversation and dedicate your time to something of value as Pile suggested. Your long posts look foolish and desperate.

There is nothing you can really do because the edit stamps on your past posts will always be there.



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[Whooter]

Maybe if you weren't such a moron and feeling so incredibly desperate, you might have seen other posts, like this one, also from 2005:

***Now that is impressive,--I always thought of Dysfunction as a computer geek with no particular skills aside from the technical ones: but he spelled "ad hominem" correctly (not "ad hominum" which is wrong and is in the way most people spell it)***

Well, thanks for the, uh, compliment... :roll:

If you did take any amount of time to read what I have written in the past, you would have seen that I am an "IT guy" yes, but also an MSW and MBA.  

I worked as a therapist in an RTC (Daytop Village) and an intake counselor at a "TBS"  (there really is no such thing, they're "BMW's"-behavior modification warehouses) (Hidden Lake Academy), so I know a bit about how these places operate and exactly what their priorities are.

Now, if you require troubleshooting for your child or your internet connection, please feel free to drop me a line for some down-to-earth advice about either one...

Hmmm....  Dysfunction Junction if you click your own link (above) and look at the bottom of the post it says:

Last edited by Dysfunction Junction on 30 Jun 2010, 15:15, edited 1 time in total.

ooops.  Caught again!!!  lol, all your past education posts were edited,we can all see that.

How many posts is that that were edited?  I lost count.  You just cant help stepping in it, DJ.... classic.   wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.



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[Troll Control]

Cause and effect.  Outstanding.

Whooter, I really hate to get all serious business in my first post, but it seems that you're in this topic to make a scene, and after having done some research it seems this is how you roll, so I guess  :feedtrolls:

Vic Zelot linked directly to this wonderful, juicy, unavoidable, inescapable tidbit:

I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved, this could be misconstrued as Tipping

With the link coming straight from my signature, no less.  It makes spotting this troll easy and convenient for all.    

This new poster took his time, in his very first post, rightfully to call Whooter out as a troll.  I really enjoy educating the public about sheisters, hucksters and snake oil salesmen like Whooter.  It's gratifying to know he isn't hoodwinking anyone here anymore.  

What's left of Whooter is really like a lower organism with a primitive nerve net and ganglion where a "brain" would exist in a normal person - even with it's head cut off, arms cut off, legs cut off and disemboweled, it still twitches repetitively although it's technically dead. :suicide:  :rofl:

[Whooter]

Its obvious that this has upset you and have to say Sorry you are so angry over this, DJ, but you did have it coming to you. You have been trolling this forum for months and years as everyone can attest. If you look at your past 50 posts they are all junk and add no value to any discussion.

Ever since your trolling privileges were taken away, via having to log in, your true colors have come out. You cant post anonymously anymore and now that I caught you in yet another lie you had the need to go back and try to erase your past posts.

Going forward I would suggest you try to join the flow of conversation and dedicate your time to something of value as Pile suggested. Your long posts look foolish and desperate.  Your posting on Morgans behalf shows that you are taking a positive step and I think you will see that contributing will help you get over this.

There is nothing you can really do because the edit stamps on your past posts will always be there.  




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[Troll Control]

Dance, puppet, dance!  Remember, I control your actions now.  I exploit your compulsions and make you act in a way totally irreconcilable with what you try to make people here believe about yourself.  

Angry?  Really? I'm absolutely giddy watching you self-immolate and run around on fire.  I mean, I do love watching Ursus eat your lunch on a daily basis (among others) but watching you do yourself in?  That's priceless.

Your behavior here has sunk you and five years of your life, posting like a slave, is utterly wasted.  Let's face it, new users are calling you out on their first posts here now. Indeed, that's results-driven feedback.  You try to chime in on any topic and quickly get flushed by even the newest posters, complete with links to your posts.  You might want to try out some new identity like you did last time.  This one's cooked.

Keep twitchin' lizard brain.  :cheers:  :feedtrolls:

[Whooter]

Its obvious that this has upset you and have to say Sorry you are so angry over this, DJ, but you did have it coming to you. You have been trolling this forum for months and years as everyone can attest. If you look at your past 50 posts they are all junk and add no value to any discussion.

Ever since your trolling privileges were taken away, via having to log in, your true colors have come out. You cant post anonymously anymore and now that I caught you in yet another lie you had the need to go back and try to erase your past posts.

Going forward I would suggest you try to join the flow of conversation and dedicate your time to something of value as Pile suggested. Your long posts look foolish and desperate.  Your posting on Morgans behalf shows that you are taking a positive step and I think you will see that contributing will help you get over this.

There is nothing you can really do because the edit stamps on your past posts will always be there.  

lol




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[Troll Control]

Cause and effect.  Outstanding.

Whooter, I really hate to get all serious business in my first post, but it seems that you're in this topic to make a scene, and after having done some research it seems this is how you roll, so I guess  :feedtrolls:

Vic Zelot linked directly to this wonderful, juicy, unavoidable, inescapable tidbit:

I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved, this could be misconstrued as Tipping

With the link coming straight from my signature, no less.  It makes spotting this troll easy and convenient for all.    

This new poster took his time, in his very first post, rightfully to call Whooter out as a troll.  I really enjoy educating the public about sheisters, hucksters and snake oil salesmen like Whooter.  It's gratifying to know he isn't hoodwinking anyone here anymore.  

What's left of Whooter is really like a lower organism with a primitive nerve net and ganglion where a "brain" would exist in a normal person - even with it's head cut off, arms cut off, legs cut off and disemboweled, it still twitches repetitively although it's technically dead. :suicide:  :rofl:

Proof is in the puddin'. :rofl:   :nods:   Whooter/TheWho/Sarah Palin/Al Gore/SUCK IT/John McCain/Mitt Romney/Robert Bruces/etc, etc, etc credibility is so shot that people catch on on their very first visit no less.  That was the desired outcome and so has it been achieved fully.
 :cheers:

[Whooter]

Edit stamp! It wont go away no matter how much you want to change the subject!!  lol

wiggle, wiggle squirm, squirm



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[Troll Control]

Well, you didn't say over and over you went to Chicago.  In fact, you denied it vehemently and demands "proof" that you did.  You demanded I link a Chicago IP address to TheWho's postings from that period, but why should I?  You forgot you lied about this and had already posted in January 2007 that you went to Chicago the month before.  Why did you lie about your trip to Chicago?

{link to source}  TheWho claiming to have met in Chicago

You also were denying you had an extensive arrest record, apparently forgetting you had already admitted to being "arrested several times in Boston" and once in Michigan.  Why did you lie about your criminal past?

{link to source}TheWho admitting to his arrest record for "multiple arrests"

You also deny you are John Reuben, but you PMed me with your email address when you thought I was interested in sending my kid to ASR.  And that email address is one and the same with the Administrator email address for savingteens.org.  So you were caught in yet another lie.  Why did you lie about your identity?

You may have emailed John Reuben but where is your proof that you emailed me? See what I am saying?

No, you PMed me with the email address later to be proven to be John Reuben's

Re: Is ASR a good program?
Sent: Fri Jun 06, 2007 1:07 pm
From: TheWho
To: Concerned Parent

Personally I think ASR is a good program.  It worked for our family.  My kid was there

when Dave Marcus wrote his book based on the kids in the program and they got back on

track and matured.  I have been to the campus many times and think if it's a good fit

for your son that you shouldn't worry about it.  Don't trust what you read on this site

because the members here are all anti-program and have an agenda to discredit all

programs.  If you want to contact me outside fornits I can help you get in contact with

someone who can help you make the right decision.  You can email me at

onekidatatime@yahoo.com.  Good luck and I hope it all works out for you.

You also say you are just a parent with no ties to the TTI industry, but yet you attended a meeting in Chicago with a group of other TTI players in order to try to make statistical proof that programs are safe and effective and bragged about your meeting here while logged in with the username "TheWho."  Later you denied you are part of the industry and that you went to Chicago at all which are both proven lies.  Why did you lie about your role in the TTI?

{link to source}  What players? where was the meeting and when was it held?  

Well, I PM?d several people here on fornits and eventually we formed a ?Statistical group? and decided to meet at the Hyatt in Chicago about a month ago.  We spent 3 days hammering out a direction and figured we would tackle the TBS sector first.

You said it was a meeting in December 2006 at the Hyatt in Chicago of your statistical group to asses the safety of TBS's.You're the one who said it.  Were you lying then or now?

The readers here deserve an explanation of the above proven lies.  Why won't you explain the lies?

I agree but first you need to prove your posts.

 You need proof, Bruce, you havent proved anything yet. We need a smoking gun and all we see are "your" words.  Many who might have believed thewho was this Reuben guy are now starting to doubt it.  You havent shown anything yet.  Start filling in the Citations and see  how you make out.  Then we can go from there.

And, I'm obviously not "Bruce."  So you can stop trying to pin this on him.  You're the liar here.  You need to account for your lies.

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I believe the Guest above created the subject of this thread.  I have just fleshed it out a bit, but not changed it.  I believe you actually tried to change it several times, but we keep coming back to the thread topic anyway.

[Troll Control]

Let's not forget the ultra-hypocrite/liar angle either.  Here's a gem from a moderator showing TheWho went back and deleted his entire family story when it was linked to his account to remove the nasty bits about how he admitted his daughter estranged herself from him and didn't speak to him for two years after ASR while getting fucked up on drugs and alcohol.  That wouldn't fit in a tidy package labeled "My daughter did well after ASR" so he simply disappeared it and was busted by the moderator.  Then, true to form, he accused her of "altering" his posts, an obvious blatant lie, as described by the guest below. :suicide:

This is the last refuge for someone caught blatantly lying so many times that he has no other excuse but "They altered my posts!" What a LOSER.

 :rofl:
That's about the size of it. He hasn't a leg to stand on in an honest debate, so he resorts to attacks and false allegations. I could provide links to many posts that I would've loved to dump. They're still there.
The only one 'editing' Who's posts is Who. Remember the one in which he stated his daughter split and didn't talk to him for 2 years. He apparently forgot he posted that back when he was anon- before he picked a user name. When I linked to it, he promptly deleted it.
Wah, wah, wah.  :cry2:

This has been Whooter's modus operandi for many, many years. :beat: lols.

[Queef]

Dance, puppet, dance!  Remember, I control your actions now.  I exploit your compulsions and make you act in a way totally irreconcilable with what you try to make people here believe about yourself.  

Angry?  Really? I'm absolutely giddy watching you self-immolate and run around on fire.  I mean, I do love watching Ursus eat your lunch on a daily basis (among others) but watching you do yourself in?  That's priceless.

Your behavior here has sunk you and five years of your life, posting like a slave, is utterly wasted.  Let's face it, new users are calling you out on their first posts here now. Indeed, that's results-driven feedback.  You try to chime in on any topic and quickly get flushed by even the newest posters, complete with links to your posts.  You might want to try out some new identity like you did last time.  This one's cooked.

Keep twitchin' lizard brain.  :cheers:  :feedtrolls:

This poster is frothing at the mouth, a control freak filled with hatred. it's no surprise to me this person is an ex staff. Lay off Whooter you are taking this way too seriously and getting angry, go chill out for a while.

[Queef]

Let's not forget the ultra-hypocrite/liar angle either.  Here's a gem from a moderator showing TheWho went back and deleted his entire family story when it was linked to his account to remove the nasty bits about how he admitted his daughter estranged herself from him and didn't speak to him for two years after ASR while getting fucked up on drugs and alcohol.  That wouldn't fit in a tidy package labeled "My daughter did well after ASR" so he simply disappeared it and was busted by the moderator.  Then, true to form, he accused her of "altering" his posts, an obvious blatant lie, as described by the guest below. :suicide:

This is the last refuge for someone caught blatantly lying so many times that he has no other excuse but "They altered my posts!" What a LOSER.

 :rofl:
That's about the size of it. He hasn't a leg to stand on in an honest debate, so he resorts to attacks and false allegations. I could provide links to many posts that I would've loved to dump. They're still there.
The only one 'editing' Who's posts is Who. Remember the one in which he stated his daughter split and didn't talk to him for 2 years. He apparently forgot he posted that back when he was anon- before he picked a user name. When I linked to it, he promptly deleted it.
Wah, wah, wah.  :cry2:

This has been Whooter's modus operandi for many, many years. :beat: lols.

You spend so much time and effort discrediting a poster you also claim nobody takes seriously, so what is the purpose if you really believe that? Surely you have better things to do on a holiday weekend than discredit someone in a thread nobody will read. Or maybe this is a pressure valve of hatred left over from your personal life, in that case thank Whooter.  :timeout:

[Troll Control]

Dude, seriously?  You're posting in other threads trying to appear respectful, while you have usernames of "Queef" and "SUCK IT" over here?  I'm telling you, man, you are really sick in the head.  You have come completely unglued.

Just look at yourself.  You're so incredibly phony and everyone here knows it.  Now you're just vomiting all over the place.

[Troll Control]

QFT.  After denying for many years that he has multiple logins, Whooter admits it.

I can tell you that of the list of usernames that you laid out above, some are mine...

"Some," as in "several."  The truth is, it's actualy all of them, but, whatever, the point is made.  Multiple usernames has now been admitted to by Whooter.  Since he's pretending to be a dozen or more people here, why should anyone believe anything he says?  Quite literally, everything about him is phony.  

The aim is to highlight the dishonest nature of this person.  Pretending to be multiple people so you can appear to have strength in numbers and use proxies to say the things you don't want to be caught saying  while you are proven to be just one loser sitting at the keyboard, all day and all night, for five looong years is the epitome of dishonesty.

Anyway...Just for the record, I have, and have had, one and only one login/username for my entire time on Fornits.

[Troll Control]

Moved from another thread at Whooter's request (Which, as usual, he will not abide by, but, what the heck.  Here it is anyway.):

Lols.  I have had one username and one username only for my entire time posting here.  You have my permission to verify with the site's admin.  Go ahead and have them link up any anonymous posts as well.  You have my permission.  Please ask them to post the results of your inquiry.  We'll all be awaiting the big event with bated breath.  

I'm going to go ahead and do a little prognosticating now, too.  My predicttion?  You'll do neither of the above and just continue claiming I have multiple logins and you'll keep doing it right here in this thread rather than doing what you requested and move it to another thread.

In the meantime, I moved our discussion over here where it belongs to honor your request.