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Islam’s Invasion Ideology...
BuzzKill:
--- Quote ---The only thing I seem to disagree with people is that I don't think it/they're taking over our country. That's really it.
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I read your post about the fear of the RCC way back when. Your right that there was some concern a RC president would have the US answering to Rome as they did "back home" in Ireland. Your right that this was a bit silly. Your wrong however to think the present day concerns about Islam are comparable.
I don't worry that the USA will become an Islamic nation. The danger isn't that Obama will hoist an Islamic flag over the capital and the House and Senate will begin bowing to Allah 5 times a day. The danger is something like a thermonuclear bomb in New York, Chicago and LA; or small pox and anthrax - Because if they can get it they will use it. And if we don't take this danger seriously, deal with it seriously, stop with the rose colored glasses and the dream-scape fantasy that they can be negotiated and reasoned with, they will get these deadly things - and we will suffer and die.
I worry about insane levels of PC that forbid facing facts and dealing with the facts as they are. We ARE at war with Islam. Islam IS the problem. Moderate Muslims are responsible for not boldly standing up to the radicalized elements. Our "tolerance" and their silent, sheepish ways in the face of their prophets demands for blood will make creeping Sharia, with the brutality, murder and terroristic mindset and action that follows, virtually inevitable.
Stonewall:
--- Quote from: "BuzzKill" ---
--- Quote ---The only thing I seem to disagree with people is that I don't think it/they're taking over our country. That's really it.
--- End quote ---
I read your post about the fear of the RCC way back when. Your right that there was some concern a RC president would have the US answering to Rome as they did "back home" in Ireland. Your right that this was a bit silly. Your wrong however to think the present day concerns about Islam are comparable.
I don't worry that the USA will become an Islamic nation. The danger isn't that Obama will hoist an Islamic flag over the capital and the House and Senate will begin bowing to Allah 5 times a day. The danger is something like a thermonuclear bomb in New York, Chicago and LA; or small pox and anthrax - Because if they can get it they will use it. And if we don't take this danger seriously, deal with it seriously, stop with the rose colored glasses and the dream-scape fantasy that they can be negotiated and reasoned with, they will get these deadly things - and we will suffer and die.
I worry about insane levels of PC that forbid facing facts and dealing with the facts as they are. We ARE at war with Islam. Islam IS the problem. Moderate Muslims are responsible for not boldly standing up to the radicalized elements. Our "tolerance" and their silent, sheepish ways in the face of their prophets demands for blood will make creeping Sharia, with the brutality, murder and terroristic mindset and action that follows, virtually inevitable.
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I agree.
There is no doubt that whatever mass atrocity Muslims can commit against the Western World, they will do so without blinking an eye about it.
Our government has failed utterly in regard to our foreign relations with the Islamic world. I would say that it began, the failure began with the Iranian Revolution. We failed to understand what the revolution meant and how the Sunni world would react to the Islamic Republic.
It radicalized the Middle East.
The Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan played a part. The Camp David Accords played a part.
It really was a perfect storm.
Our war against Saddam, the first Gulf War, was a major blunder. We ran into that situation with very little knowledge of Islam. What we have done since then has worsened our situation.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "BuzzKill" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---Got a link? I'd be very interested in reading it.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2 ... ble_m.html
A quote:
Dr Ahmed al Kubaisi, the head of Sharia Studies at UAE University and Baghdad University, told the National that beating one's wife is at times necessary to preserve family bonds.
"If a wife committed something wrong, a husband can report her to police," Dr al Kubaisi told the newspaper. "But sometimes she does not do a serious thing or he does not want to let others know; when it is not good for the family. In this case, hitting is a better option."
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Yeah, but that doesn't have anything to do with our laws or our court. That's what I thought Frod was saying.....that our Federal Supreme Court ruled that way. My misunderstanding. But thanks for the link. :)
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "BuzzKill" ---
--- Quote ---The only thing I seem to disagree with people is that I don't think it/they're taking over our country. That's really it.
--- End quote ---
I read your post about the fear of the RCC way back when. Your right that there was some concern a RC president would have the US answering to Rome as they did "back home" in Ireland. Your right that this was a bit silly. Your wrong however to think the present day concerns about Islam are comparable.
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I think they're quite comparable. The fear is the same....the religions might not be, but there was the same palpable fear. People freaked out when Kennedy was elected. It was a HUGE deal that a Catholic was in office.
--- Quote ---I don't worry that the USA will become an Islamic nation. The danger isn't that Obama will hoist an Islamic flag over the capital and the House and Senate will begin bowing to Allah 5 times a day. The danger is something like a thermonuclear bomb in New York, Chicago and LA; or small pox and anthrax - Because if they can get it they will use it. And if we don't take this danger seriously, deal with it seriously, stop with the rose colored glasses and the dream-scape fantasy that they can be negotiated and reasoned with, they will get these deadly things - and we will suffer and die.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
--- Quote ---I worry about insane levels of PC that forbid facing facts and dealing with the facts as they are. We ARE at war with Islam. Islam IS the problem. Moderate Muslims are responsible for not boldly standing up to the radicalized elements.
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Yes, just as I believe that some of the radical elements in our own political system are.
--- Quote ---Our "tolerance" and their silent, sheepish ways in the face of their prophets demands for blood will make creeping Sharia, with the brutality, murder and terroristic mindset and action that follows, virtually inevitable.
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And you don't see any similarities in the Christian Bible's demands for blood, stoning etc.? Or the Orthodox Jewish Torah? Do you really believe that every single Muslim is that extreme or radical? That's like saying that every single Christian is like Fred Phelps.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Stonewall" ---Our government has failed utterly in regard to our foreign relations with the Islamic world. I would say that it began, the failure began with the Iranian Revolution. We failed to understand what the revolution meant and how the Sunni world would react to the Islamic Republic.
It radicalized the Middle East.
The Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan played a part. The Camp David Accords played a part.
It really was a perfect storm.
Our war against Saddam, the first Gulf War, was a major blunder. We ran into that situation with very little knowledge of Islam. What we have done since then has worsened our situation.
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