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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #165 on: July 09, 2010, 07:50:01 AM »
Mr. "Suck it"

Lets assume that you served in a job where you expected that every kid who entered were screened correctly instead of letting the money decide who enter.

How would you prevent contraband in your facility?
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #166 on: July 09, 2010, 07:57:21 AM »
Morgan, you will do fine, I had a daughter who attended a school similar to the one you may be going to.  From what I have read here you have more going for you than most girls, you seem to be level headed and know what you want to do with your life.  This place can help you get to your goals if you use it to your advantage.  You will be away from home and in an extremely safe place…. Maybe without all the comforts that you are use to, but you will feel safe and be able to work on yourself.

I have never met anyone who is happy about spending time in jail or employers who enjoy reading about it.  So I would not take that advice.  You will probably meet those kids who fight the school rules the whole time they are there and then bitch about their time there after graduation and blame the school because they never learned anything.  Its up to you if you want to take advantage of the help available to you.

There are tattoo artists who work for someone else and are told what to do all day and there are tattoo artists who own their own businesses and make their own rules and answer to no one except themselves.   If you choose to be in and out of jail or living on the streets then most banks will not trust you when it comes time for you to open your own tattoo parlor.  Don’t screw up your chances with bad decisions early on which you cannot erase.

 Learn to be comfortable with yourself and who you are and then you can be in control of your own life and be your own boss if you like.  This place can help you reach your goals faster if you take advantage of it.



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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #167 on: July 09, 2010, 08:36:19 AM »
Mr. Whooter

Academy at Sisters is not Academy at Swift River. At sisters they combine wilderness and the boarding school. The campus her mother toured was the Swift River like campus used once the wilderness phase is over.

If you should compare the facility with a Aspen like, it looks more like Turn-about Ranch where the campus parents don't see for obvious reasons is called Roundy, but Turn-about is a high-impact short turn program.

I agree that jail is a poor option.
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Academy At Sisters and Next Step For Success
« Reply #168 on: July 09, 2010, 10:23:04 AM »
Many of these programs use a more or less separate but ideologically connected organization for indoctrinating the families of these kids into "the process." As examples, WWASP's uses David Gilcrease's Resource Realizations, Hyde School uses HAPA and the Hoffman Quadrinity Process, etc. etc.

Bill and Penelope Valentine's Next Step For Success coaching enterprise is also one such organization, generally used by CEDU spin-offs. We know that Benchmark uses them to teach (and "accredit") their "counselors." Apparently, Academy At Sisters also utilizes them to "coach" program parents:

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Breaking News
Posted: Apr 16, 2010 14:10

Academy at Sisters
Bend, OR


Academy At Sisters Offers Parent Coaching Through Next Step For Success

Contact:
Chesley Strowd
Admissions Director
Academy at Sisters
800-910-0412
http://www.academyatsisters.org

April 16, 2010


Academy at Sisters continues to examine all facets of the treatment we provide for students and their families to ensure that everyone is an active participant in the process of meaningful change. After several trial months of a few new families working with the ICF Certified Coaches of Next Step for Success, the Parent Coaching has proven to be very successful and an invaluable service to the families we serve. Therefore, we are excited to announce that Academy at Sisters now provides Parent Coaching through Next Step for Success to all incoming families.

Not only do they serve as an outside support for parents and guardians, but Next Step for Success also helps parents solidify their commitment to their daughter's placement at the Academy at Sisters. Additionally, the Parent Coaches of Next Step for Success maintain a unified front with our program, serving to meet the best interest of the student and parents as a family. Overall, this results in: confident parents who are more aligned with their daughter's treatment goals, parents who are less likely to be manipulated, and consequently, a program with higher student retention rates.

The ultimate goal for Academy at Sisters is to provide the best possible services for our young women and their families who have entrusted us with their child in need. The extensive experience of the solution-focused Certified Coaches of Next Step for Success is one more piece to the puzzle to help us obtain this goal.

Academy at Sisters
http://www.academyatsisters.org
Bend, OR

Admissions Contact:
Chesley Strowd
800-910-0412

Next Step for Success
http://www.nextstepforsuccess.com
Redmond, OR
541-504-5224


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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #169 on: July 09, 2010, 11:15:39 AM »
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Well, it's official.
Just as an update, I'll post it.
My parents have decided on the Academy.
It's a go, though I have a while.
Though this forum seems to have given my parents - especially my father who found a place in Portland that's not a live-in, but my mother has decided it isn't an option... - things to think about, there is no escaping this end result.
I thank all of you for your help and insights, and if you find anything else, we'll check back here to look at it.

Well, if I were you, I wouldn't ever again take your parents' word at face value.  Your dad said right in this thread that if you agreed to go to counseling at home, he would not send you away.  

Anybody who thinks you can "help a family" by breaking up the family and isolating the children from it is an idiot.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #170 on: July 09, 2010, 01:11:22 PM »
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Mr. Whooter

Academy at Sisters is not Academy at Swift River. At sisters they combine wilderness and the boarding school. The campus her mother toured was the Swift River like campus used once the wilderness phase is over.

If you should compare the facility with a Aspen like, it looks more like Turn-about Ranch where the campus parents don't see for obvious reasons is called Roundy, but Turn-about is a high-impact short turn program.

I agree that jail is a poor option.

Oscar, Swift River use to have a wilderness component to it but stopped it 5 or more years ago.  Now they utilize SUWS, I believe, for the initial phase.



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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #171 on: July 09, 2010, 01:25:11 PM »
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Quote from: "MorganMDC"
Well, it's official.
Just as an update, I'll post it.
My parents have decided on the Academy.
It's a go, though I have a while.
Though this forum seems to have given my parents - especially my father who found a place in Portland that's not a live-in, but my mother has decided it isn't an option... - things to think about, there is no escaping this end result.
I thank all of you for your help and insights, and if you find anything else, we'll check back here to look at it.

Well, if I were you, I wouldn't ever again take your parents' word at face value.  Your dad said right in this thread that if you agreed to go to counseling at home, he would not send you away.  

Anybody who thinks you can "help a family" by breaking up the family and isolating the children from it is an idiot.
Well, My father and my mother are two completely different entities. On one hand, my father would like to work with me as a human being, a friend, and a daughter, in order to communicate on what is the best option for me, and my future in my mind, as well as his.
He found me a place, I agreed to it, he was to set up a meeting.
My mother, on the other hand, thinks that local counseling would not work - without even trying, - believing that all the problems are to big, and thus, the academy should be utilized to get me to where I need to be.
She communicates as the mother, and the superior, deciding that school meetings, grades, and past records are the deciding factor. Which in short, is confusing, and obnoxious.  :suicide:
As much as I'd love to think that jail is better than the academy, I have no intention of screwing up my chances at eventually moving on to the UK, and making something of what life I have left when I emerge - which I will, no doubt.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #172 on: July 09, 2010, 01:39:39 PM »
At least you have a chance to know what you are getting into beforehand. This is a pretty funny video, but it wouldn't surprise me if you find this to be reminiscent.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E



Mind control is not therapy, if that's the situation you are placed in call them out on it.


viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30423&start=0

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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #173 on: July 09, 2010, 01:50:57 PM »
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At least you have a chance to know what you are getting into beforehand. This is a pretty funny video, but it wouldn't surprise me if you find this to be reminiscent.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E



Mind control is not therapy, if that's the situation you are placed in call them out on it.


http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic. ... 23&start=0

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Haha, lovely,
I wouldn't be surprised if any sort of "mind control" or "character demeaning" ways of therapy are to be used, but in my opinion, that's just par for the course in most extreme/not so extreme counseling situations.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #174 on: July 09, 2010, 03:42:39 PM »
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How old are you, Morgan?  Did your mom get roped in by an Educational Consultant?  Or did she get a referral from some other program parent?  How did she come to pick this place?  Where are you located?

You will get a lot of advice here, but DO NOT follow any advice that directs you to commit criminal acts, as this will only steel your mother's resolve to send you away and get you involved with Johny Law.  I DO NOT advise this course of action.  A few of us have your mother's contact information and will try to reason with her on your behalf.  Unfortunately, there isn't much else we can do from here.

Please answer the above questions and contact Mr. Elberg ASAP.
I am fifteen years old. She was roped in by both. She picked it, because it is the only option. Oregon. Beaverton, Oregon.
Her e-mail is of course the best way to reason with her, not only due to phone issues, but because direct abuse after hang up is not pleasent.
Might that EdCon be Dore Frances? She is designated as the "Mayor of Bend" on Merchant Circle (most number of connections):


    Horizon Family Solutions, LLC
    1145 NW Knoxville Blvd
    Bend, OR 97701
    541-312-4422[/list]
    Wow. Look at all I have to look forward to.
    Apparently there is a "crisis move in situation" so I have until Friday.
    Ursus, I am not sure.
    All I know is of a "Chealsea". The name sounds familiar, she possibly mentioned it in passing.
    Might that have been CHESLEY, as in Chesley Strowd? She's the Admissions Director at Academy at Sisters...
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    Re: Academy at Sisters
    « Reply #175 on: July 09, 2010, 03:44:53 PM »
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    How old are you, Morgan?  Did your mom get roped in by an Educational Consultant?  Or did she get a referral from some other program parent?  How did she come to pick this place?  Where are you located?

    You will get a lot of advice here, but DO NOT follow any advice that directs you to commit criminal acts, as this will only steel your mother's resolve to send you away and get you involved with Johny Law.  I DO NOT advise this course of action.  A few of us have your mother's contact information and will try to reason with her on your behalf.  Unfortunately, there isn't much else we can do from here.

    Please answer the above questions and contact Mr. Elberg ASAP.
    I am fifteen years old. She was roped in by both. She picked it, because it is the only option. Oregon. Beaverton, Oregon.
    Her e-mail is of course the best way to reason with her, not only due to phone issues, but because direct abuse after hang up is not pleasent.
    Might that EdCon be Dore Frances? She is designated as the "Mayor of Bend" on Merchant Circle (most number of connections):


      Horizon Family Solutions, LLC
      1145 NW Knoxville Blvd
      Bend, OR 97701
      541-312-4422[/list]
      Wow. Look at all I have to look forward to.
      Apparently there is a "crisis move in situation" so I have until Friday.
      Ursus, I am not sure.
      All I know is of a "Chealsea". The name sounds familiar, she possibly mentioned it in passing.
      Might that have been CHESLEY, as in Chesley Strowd? She's the Admissions Director at Academy at Sisters...
      Yes, yes. Chesley.
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      Re: Academy at Sisters
      « Reply #176 on: July 09, 2010, 04:50:07 PM »
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      Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
      Quote from: "MorganMDC"
      Well, it's official.
      Just as an update, I'll post it.
      My parents have decided on the Academy.
      It's a go, though I have a while.
      Though this forum seems to have given my parents - especially my father who found a place in Portland that's not a live-in, but my mother has decided it isn't an option... - things to think about, there is no escaping this end result.
      I thank all of you for your help and insights, and if you find anything else, we'll check back here to look at it.

      Well, if I were you, I wouldn't ever again take your parents' word at face value.  Your dad said right in this thread that if you agreed to go to counseling at home, he would not send you away.  

      Anybody who thinks you can "help a family" by breaking up the family and isolating the children from it is an idiot.
      Well, My father and my mother are two completely different entities. On one hand, my father would like to work with me as a human being, a friend, and a daughter, in order to communicate on what is the best option for me, and my future in my mind, as well as his.
      He found me a place, I agreed to it, he was to set up a meeting.
      My mother, on the other hand, thinks that local counseling would not work - without even trying, - believing that all the problems are to big, and thus, the academy should be utilized to get me to where I need to be.
      She communicates as the mother, and the superior, deciding that school meetings, grades, and past records are the deciding factor. Which in short, is confusing, and obnoxious.  :suicide:
      As much as I'd love to think that jail is better than the academy, I have no intention of screwing up my chances at eventually moving on to the UK, and making something of what life I have left when I emerge - which I will, no doubt.

      As depressing as this is, you clearly know who is right and who is very much wrong right now.

      I just hope your dad reads this, his balls drop again, and he saves his own daughter from being put through hell 24/7 for months to years. Honest to god, how whipped can you be, no matter how long you've been in the doghouse or on the couch, to let someone dictate to you "I am going to not even try what you recommend, spend $5K a month of your money, and send your child away where neither of us can contact her and anything on earth could happen to her."

      Hell I don't think even whooter can go with such a situation.
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      « Reply #177 on: July 09, 2010, 04:57:40 PM »
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      Wow. Look at all I have to look forward to.
      Apparently there is a "crisis move in situation" so I have until Friday.
      Ursus, I am not sure.
      All I know is of a "Chealsea". The name sounds familiar, she possibly mentioned it in passing.
      Might that have been CHESLEY, as in Chesley Strowd? She's the Admissions Director at Academy at Sisters...
      Yes, yes. Chesley.
      Something y'all oughta be aware of, and that is that Ms. Strowd would appear to being quite invested in the aforementioned Next Step For Success parent coaching endeavor.

      It's unclear, from the following (~51 minute, mp3) interview with EdCon Dore Frances, whether that means that she herself, or that the Academy at Sisters, or both ... is certified to offer these parenting coaching seminars. I was only able to listen to the first part; it's possible that ambiguity may be cleared up later in the interview; emphases below as per the original:

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      Monday, March 1, 2010
      "What is the importance of working with girls in an all girls academy?"

      Special Guests: Chesley Strowd, Admissions Director, Dr. Julie Schneider, Ph.D., Clinical Director of Academy of Sisters.

      The Academy at Sisters is a small exclusive at-risk girls' therapeutic boarding school for young women ages 13 – 18, providing emotional, behavioral and academic services.

      Discussion topics include: What sets Academy at Sisters apart from other all girls programs? What specific services are available for students at Academy at Sisters?  

      Chesley Strowd has seven years of experience working closely with families and professionals in several residential treatment centers.  Dr. Julie Schneider, Ph.D. has approximately 15 years of experience working in a variety of settings.

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      Re: Academy At Sisters and Next Step For Success
      « Reply #178 on: July 09, 2010, 05:06:08 PM »
      Something else y'all oughta know about Next Step For Success, which for some reason nobody is picking up on, is that it is founded and run by ex-CEDU execs and staff.

      This would certainly comport with why Academy at Sisters is on CEDU's Friends of Families with Children in Crisis Foundation.
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      Re: Academy At Sisters and Next Step For Success
      « Reply #179 on: July 09, 2010, 05:38:46 PM »
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      Something else y'all oughta know about Next Step For Success, which for some reason nobody is picking up on, is that it is founded and run by ex-CEDU execs and staff.

      This would certainly comport with why Academy at Sisters is on CEDU's Friends of Families with Children in Crisis Foundation.



      Yup it comes from Cedu alright. Brandi Elliot, team leader at Cedu, and arrogant executer of attack therapy, of which I had the pleasure of experiencing first hand. Though I didn't get the worst of her rants. Ugh hope you don't have issues with throwing up, she could be very descriptive. Does not mix well with psycho drama.


      …  a peice of advice to Morgan.

      Be on heightened alert for situations that are pushing for self disclosure.  Very likely they will be engaging you with your peers in situations where you will be encouraged to open up, or challenge you for being closed off.  Don’t disclose anything about yourself that you would feel uncomfortable talking about in your current social life.  If you feel a pressure to disclose in ways that threaten your boundaries tell them that they are not being considerate of that.  Even if there are things that might be helpful for you to talk about, be careful. If you are not truly comfortable disclosing to them, a true opportunity to heal may be negated by having to accept things you don’t believe about yourself as part of the process, tell them that too, the situation precludes you from an opportunity to heal in this way.  I wouldn’t be surprised if you find that in many cases they are really just growing or creating problems that wouldn’t result if the ‘students’ were able to develop without such continuous focus on them,  to putting more energy in instead of less, and encourage an impossible fight between you and your problems that you don’t ultimately beat.  

      What are your issues? Are you entirely happy with yourself?  What have you done that you don’t feel good about?  What are the hardest things you’ve had to deal with in your life?  No one is perfect Morgan, we all have problems, maybe yours is trust. Do you have issues opening up about this stuff? Where do those trust issues come from?  …….  Sorry, just offering a lead in to this game, but my guess is you’ll be surprised at how open some people get with their ‘issues’, just don’t beat the competition I guess. Good luck.
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