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Offline MorganMDC

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Academy at Sisters
« on: July 02, 2010, 04:05:35 PM »
Well, I'm not sure this is where this post goes, but at this moment, I don't give a shit.
I'm at risk of being sent to the Academy at Sisters - http://www.academyatsisters.org/ for all of you who aren't aware, - and from my perspective, it looks like hell.
There is no real review anywhere online of this place, and thus, I'm hoping someone here can give me a little insight towards what the program is like, etc.
It appears that they will strip me of my communication with friends, music, and band clothing.
This sounds horrible to me.
Anyone with experience or knowledge of this academy?
Anything is greatly appreciated...
-Morgan
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2010, 04:46:48 PM »
*looks it over*

*sees standard program tactics*

Oh yeah. It's a shithole. Best case scenario: You endure months of psychological abuse as they continually attempt to re-mold your mind. Worst case? Look at my signature.

Morgan, there are a LOT of things you can do to protect yourself right now. I'll post some here and PM you with some others.

The first and most obvious is to get your parents in contact with members of Fornits. There are a whole lot of people here who were seriously, repeatedly abused. They can tell your parents things that no one was meant to know about.

The second is to get yourself an attorney. No, I'm seriously not kidding, and yes, I know you're a minor. Give THIS guy a call.

Phil Elberg
http://www.lawyers.com/New-Jersey/Newar ... 150-a.html
973-642-1300

He's been fighting these shitholes for years. If he can't represent you he can get you in contact with people in your state who can help. You might think "He can't do shit"- he's a fucking lawyer. They have ways of doing shit.

The third is self-protection, and this gets ugly. You have no idea of the tricks that have been used to send kids there. Don't accept any drinks from your parents before bedtime, as it could be drugged. (This has happened). If they tell you that you're taking a "vacation" somewhere else nearby, it's a fucking trick. If they try to drive you there themselves your best bet is to jump out of the car and get the cops involved. If they try to fly you there, make a huge scene on the airplane and tell the captain that you do not want to be on that aircraft (modern airport security procedures will make sure you *don't* fly). Your parents could send "escorts" to drag you at the middle of the night; there are a number of defenses here, but the best bet is to carry a knife and start stabbing something. (A girl protecting herself against a couple of large men? I doubt the cops will prosecute). One kid handcuffed himself to the bed and left the key in his mouth.

You *really* don't want to have to start doing shit in the third category. But it's better than what your parents have in store.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2010, 04:59:09 PM »
I suggest you call elberg on a cellphone while getting far away from your house, friends, your friend's parents, and anyone who could know who to rat you out to, and start thinking like you're a murder suspect and GTFO.

Alternatively, break literally everything in your parent's house and then turn yourself in to the cops. I recommend a claw hammer.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2010, 05:03:21 PM »
I would consider talking to relatives who might find this fishy and asking if they'd take you in - but do NOT give your location away unless you know they're guaranteed to not fuck you over. If they pick you up and take you to your house, crash the vehicle.

If you get 'escorted', crash the vehicle. Grab the wheel and stomp the throttle and don't let him touch the brake. Make every attempt to over power them or get them in an awkward situation, such as coming on to them or play the desperate/slutty/whatever card. Programs are a living fucking hell and frankly mutilation and prison time is preferable, as would be giving road-head before crashing the vehicle.

You would be held incommunicado with no way to reach family, legal representation, or anyone at all on the outside. They will continually torture you for years.  This is not a joke. This is no bullshit, this shit is real and yes it happens in the USA.

Get food, get a weapon, get resources, don't even leave your phone on - take the battery OUT and keep it so a) you can't be tracked and b) the charge lasts longer. Take the charger with you and charge it at outlets you can find, like homeless people do with prepaid phones. Also, in case I didn't make the point clearly.

GET OUT.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2010, 05:10:17 PM »
I should add Portland has a very well developed street and homeless community - however you want to put it, I do not want to digress to politics - and they would probably be willing to help you to at least some degree.

You strike me as very, very innocent. You were ridiculously easy to locate. Find a way to communicate and we can arrange talking on the phone if you wish. But keep in mind your innocence will attract as many predators in a program as it would on the street, though in the latter you're quite a bit better off.
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CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 05:10:18 PM »
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I would consider talking to relatives who might find this fishy and asking if they'd take you in - but do NOT give your location away unless you know they're guaranteed to not fuck you over. If they pick you up and take you to your house, crash the vehicle.

If you get 'escorted', crash the vehicle. Grab the wheel and stomp the throttle and don't let him touch the brake. Make every attempt to over power them or get them in an awkward situation, such as coming on to them or play the desperate/slutty/whatever card. Programs are a living fucking hell and frankly mutilation and prison time is preferable, as would be giving road-head before crashing the vehicle.

You would be held incommunicado with no way to reach family, legal representation, or anyone at all on the outside. They will continually torture you for years.  This is not a joke. This is no bullshit, this shit is real and yes it happens in the USA.

Get food, get a weapon, get resources, don't even leave your phone on - take the battery OUT and keep it so a) you can't be tracked and b) the charge lasts longer. Take the charger with you and charge it at outlets you can find, like homeless people do with prepaid phones. Also, in case I didn't make the point clearly.

GET OUT.



And just when I thought it wouldn't be that bad.
I'm just glad I can get some people to back up my fears on this, and I'm not just over doing it.
I will do whatever it takes to avoid this program, and seeing to how I have no family my parents wouldn't thoroughly search, I'll have to.
Is there honestly a legal way to get out of these programs? I mean, I've come to the understanding that the law backs up the elders.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 05:12:07 PM »
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I should add Portland has a very well developed street and homeless community - however you want to put it, I do not want to digress to politics - and they would probably be willing to help you to at least some degree.

You strike me as very, very innocent. You were ridiculously easy to locate. Find a way to communicate and we can arrange talking on the phone if you wish. But keep in mind your innocence will attract as many predators in a program as it would on the street, though in the latter you're quite a bit better off.
I'm not necessarily innocent, so much as sheltered from this situation.
I have not yet had to deal with bullshit of this level, seeing as to how up until now, I've pretty much raised myself since age nine.
I don't think homelessness would be too much of an issue, I lived on the streets of Portland for an entire year and did well.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 05:15:24 PM »
CALL PHIL ALREADY!?!??!?!
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 05:18:53 PM »
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CALL PHIL ALREADY!?!??!?!
My cell will have none of it. It's screeching.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 05:20:20 PM »
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I should add Portland has a very well developed street and homeless community - however you want to put it, I do not want to digress to politics - and they would probably be willing to help you to at least some degree.

You strike me as very, very innocent. You were ridiculously easy to locate. Find a way to communicate and we can arrange talking on the phone if you wish. But keep in mind your innocence will attract as many predators in a program as it would on the street, though in the latter you're quite a bit better off.
I'm not necessarily innocent, so much as sheltered from this situation.
I have not yet had to deal with bullshit of this level, seeing as to how up until now, I've pretty much raised myself since age nine.
I don't think homelessness would be too much of an issue, I lived on the streets of Portland for an entire year and did well.

I strongly suggest returning to that if they're really going to pull this shit.

Then again, I should ask how you found out they were considering this, or what their perceived problems are they seek to 'fix'.
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CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 05:21:57 PM »
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CALL PHIL ALREADY!?!??!?!
My cell will have none of it. It's screeching.
I only got a damn message anyway, it's late.

I suppose monday would work.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 05:23:48 PM »
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I should add Portland has a very well developed street and homeless community - however you want to put it, I do not want to digress to politics - and they would probably be willing to help you to at least some degree.

You strike me as very, very innocent. You were ridiculously easy to locate. Find a way to communicate and we can arrange talking on the phone if you wish. But keep in mind your innocence will attract as many predators in a program as it would on the street, though in the latter you're quite a bit better off.
I'm not necessarily innocent, so much as sheltered from this situation.
I have not yet had to deal with bullshit of this level, seeing as to how up until now, I've pretty much raised myself since age nine.
I don't think homelessness would be too much of an issue, I lived on the streets of Portland for an entire year and did well.

I strongly suggest returning to that if they're really going to pull this shit.

Then again, I should ask how you found out they were considering this, or what their perceived problems are they seek to 'fix'.
They straight up told me they were going to do it.
They're taking me for a tour on Monday, and I'd be leaving the 18th of August.
My mother is filling out the paperwork as I type this.
They are trying to fix my "lieing" and my "bad grades" and my "lack of motivation towards college".
Meh, yeah, I suppose it is late over there.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 05:28:04 PM »
I cannot believe the program would not warn your parents out of telling you in advance, but their lack of due diligence is your gain, so to speak. I've seen documents for WWASPS programs stating to NOT let your child know in advance, for fuck's sake.

If you know how to stay secluded and communicate incommunicado I'd point them towards information about such places. Even if they don't wake up and smell the suffering, at least you can say you tried, and it could help you to stay out of contact and far away until you're 18.

When you do turn 18, at any rate, community college would probably be a good option. It's honesty easy and not a pain in the ass like Highschool is, and if you have no income you could easily qualify for grants. Then again, the whole reason for their need to 'fix' you probably comes from you not neatly fitting into their ideas of what a middle class kid should be, right?

I don't know if I'm more upset with having to tell you this, or that the USA could allow such a situation to occur, but it's the most I can do from 3000 miles away. If I knew anyone near you I'd try to arrange something, but everyone I'm an acquaintance with is chickening out.

Take care of yourself. If you have siblings I'd warn then too.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 05:31:03 PM »
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I cannot believe the program would not warn your parents out of telling you in advance, but their lack of due diligence is your gain, so to speak. I've seen documents for WWASPS programs stating to NOT let your child know in advance, for fuck's sake.

If you know how to stay secluded and communicate incommunicado I'd point them towards information about such places. Even if they don't wake up and smell the suffering, at least you can say you tried, and it could help you to stay out of contact and far away until you're 18.

When you do turn 18, at any rate, community college would probably be a good option. It's honesty easy and not a pain in the ass like Highschool is, and if you have no income you could easily qualify for grants. Then again, the whole reason for their need to 'fix' you probably comes from you not neatly fitting into their ideas of what a middle class kid should be, right?

I don't know if I'm more upset with having to tell you this, or that the USA could allow such a situation to occur, but it's the most I can do from 3000 miles away. If I knew anyone near you I'd try to arrange something, but everyone I'm an acquaintance with is chickening out.

Take care of yourself. If you have siblings I'd warn then too.

She even let me read the forms. It's more idiocy then anything on her part.
I simply wanted to move the UK to finish school, which "is an option if you complete this life saving program" - exact quote, no doubt.
I'm not well dressed, a cheerleader, and getting straight A's... What other view of middle class girls is there anymore?
I appreciate what you've offered thus far anyway, every little bit helps. With no other information on it except one most besides this on the forums, not much one can learn.
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Re: Academy at Sisters
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2010, 05:40:22 PM »
While absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, all I can suggest is that either the program is new, or isn't as bad as others.

Then again, equivalence fallacies or rationalization of a bad thing as not being "as bad" as something else is fucking stupid - I probably don't need to tell you this, of course. Nevertheless, I do hate that I'd have to even bring this up to anyone, ever, let alone tell someone to not trust their parents ever again.

What forums are you speaking of, might I ask?
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."