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Yes TCK sure does look like a science experiment that went wrong. :rofl:

[mark babitz]

Yes TCK sure does look like a science experiment that went wrong. :rofl:

www.chicagotribune.com/features/obituar ... ruglik-2...
chicagotribune.com
Forensic psychiatrist 'a probing individual'
Developed profile that led to arrest of Richard Speck
By Joan Giangrasse Kates, Special to the Tribune
May 15, 2010
After eight student nurses were brutally tortured, raped and murdered in
a dormitory at South Chicago Community Hospital in Chicago on July 14,
1966, detectives turned to Dr. Meyer Kruglik, a leader in forensic
psychiatry, to develop a psychological and physical profile of the
unknown killer.
With the help of Dr. Kruglik, the chief of psychiatry at Stateville, the
Illinois state penitentiary near Joliet, Chicago police arrested Richard
Speck, an Illinois-born drifter who was raised in Texas and had
committed a series of smaller crimes. Speck later was convicted of the
murders.
"He was one of the first people called when the news of the murders
hit," said his daughter, Sally Bauer, who was in her teens at the time.
Dr. Kruglik provided occasional counseling to Speck, who was sent to
Stateville and died there in 1991. Over the years, he also maintained a
thriving practice on Michigan Avenue, where his patients included people
from all walks of life.
"He was a very probing individual - both professionally and personally,"
recalled his daughter, with a soft laugh. "When I was young, my
boyfriends would beg me to be ready on time. Otherwise they'd sit with
my dad and be interrogated!"
Dr. Kruglik, 95, a former longtime resident of Evanston and Chicago who
provided expert testimony on countless criminal cases, died Sunday, May
9, at his home at Classic Residence by Hyatt at the Glen in Glenview
from complications related to a brain infection.
Dr. Kruglik retired from his practice and as chief of psychiatry at
Stateville in 1994 at age 80.
"He never wrote his professional memoir, in part because of
doctor-patient privilege," his daughter said. "But I think it had more
to do with not wanting to look back - at the horrific crime committed by
Speck or any of the others he'd worked on."
The son of Russian immigrants, Dr. Kruglik was born in Brooklyn, N.Y.
Instead of pursuing plumbing or carpentry as his father wanted, he took
pre-med classes at Buffalo's Canisius College after graduating at age 16
from Hutchinson Tech, a rigorous Buffalo high school.
"From the start, he was one of those students who really lived in his
head," his daughter said. "He was profoundly thoughtful and reflective.
He was curious about everything."
In 1934, Dr. Kruglik moved to Chicago and attended the University of
Illinois Medical School, living with the family of his father's distant
cousin, Harry Ginsburg. He fell in love with Harry's daughter Gertrude,
and the two wed after he graduated medical school in 1938. They were
married for 71 years until Gertrude's death in 2009.

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While serving on a Zuni Indian reservation in New Mexico, Dr. Kruglik
was drafted by the Army after Pearl Harbor and worked for the psychiatry
service at the Veterans Administration hospital in Chillicothe, Ohio,
until 1945. He then returned to Chicago to teach psychiatry at Chicago
Medical School for two years, before embarking on a 47-year career at
Stateville, where he started by conducting interviews with prisoners in
their cells


                                              :rocker:  :rocker:          Maybe it was the Zuni reservation that Marty was found on and adopted from  :rocker:  :rocker:


.
"He was once taken hostage by an inmate, but was released unharmed," his
daughter said. "That night he got home very, very late."
In his retirement, Dr. Kruglik gained a reputation at the Classic
Residence as a memoir and sonnet writer, singer, and playwright of works
performed by residents.
"Meyer was an extraordinarily gifted and interesting person," said
fellow resident Shelley Bochner. "We were friends for just a short time,
but it was a true privilege to have known him."
Dr. Kruglik is also survived by three sons, Michael, Gerald and Martin;
three grandsons; and two great-grandsons.
Services have been held.
Copyright � 2010, Chicago Tribune

[mark babitz]

phone conversation for Good ole Marty Posted: 2003-11-19 10:26:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello elan school how may i direct your call? Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik Who shall I say is calling John Richards from trouble teen magizine Please hold while I direct your call Marty answers: Hello this is Martin can I help you? Yes marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's thearupitic? And who may I ask is calling? This is John Richards from trouble teen magizine There is a magizine that is actaully for troubled teens available to the public? Yes What do you publish in this magizine John? Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered theaputic? If you are refereing to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recolition of it. So you are denying this ever took place? I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occured a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time. How long have you worked at elan Martin? I have been here for around 9 years. Oh really, then why is it there are alot of other people out there that say different? And whom are you refering to John? I'm sorry Martin, but tha is priveleged information. Priveleged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also priveledge information. Well Martin, did I at any time metion of request former students names? I don't think so. Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions? Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cromies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads? Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you. Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to littel girl's head's. Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past. So you are not denying it now Marty? No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner. Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone call's or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without havin to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era. I dont know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain. Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magizine. Okay John. Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you? If you are refering to some of those anti-elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that hold's grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight. Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct? John, when you are part of a school that focusses on teens that are emtional disturbed inviduals. heavy thearopy is needed to help those peple out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsucessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebeling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school. Oh so you brainwash teens in other words? If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives. Marty, you mentioned that there are alot of people that have went through your program and were unsucessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate? John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth stastic's with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's adminisrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions. I didn't call you Martin to discuss stastic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read alot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan. I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment? Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994. Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John. Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurreed way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's. John I went through the elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long. Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin? Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens? Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ? It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's. Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerened about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty? Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magizine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and insititution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John. Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be alot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today. Ok John you have a nice day...... Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at elan since the early 70's


.             Phone call to Clare Posted: 2003-11-19 11:28:00   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call? Yes could I please speak to Clare Woodman please? Who shall I say is calling? John Richards. Please hold. Hello this is Clare can I help you? Clare, Clare Woodman? Yes this is she. Well hello Clare,my name is John Richards and I am with the troubled Teen magizine and wanted to ask you a few questions about how a person like yourself landed a job at Elan. A person like myself? Yes Clare. And what kind of person am I? I don't know you tell me Clare?I don't want to be politically incorrect with you over the phone. Politically incorrect?? Well to be Frank with you Clare, I have read many stories about you in the last year about you being a call girl,a hooker, a prostitute and also a madam, so which is it. Is this Dan Bostdorf? No this is John Richards with trouble teen magizine No I think its you Dan.Look Dan, by harassing Me.Marty , and Jeffery you just make yourself look ridiculous.Why di you feel the need to call us at work and ask us stupid little questions?Are you planning on publishing another book about elan? Look Clare, my name is John Richards, I am calling on behalf on allegations that you were involved with prostituion and somehow landed a jod working at elan with troubled teens and would like to know how a street Hooker like yourself is able to go from prostituion to counsling trouble teens? " A moment of silence" Hello, Clare are you still there? Yes I am here Dan,Dan you are so low.It's bad enough that you publish a stupid book called a duck in a raincoat whcih by the way makes no sense to anyone.And you go to websites and try to push it on former elan resdients and now you call up here asking outrageous questions to myself, Marty, and Jeffery.What kind of man are you Dan? Look Clare, I told you 2 times already my name is John Richards, I am not Dan Bostdorf.Perhaps everything said about you is true then, you swallowed too much cum and are an airhead. Okay Dan this conversation is over.Do not call here again. Clare hangs up the phone and sounded really p1ssed off.


     I just called Elan and finally spoke to Jeff, I asked him why he screamed like a little bitch "General Meeting" when someone insulted him? jeff's response, "who is this" my response, " who is this doesnt matter" Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want" my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers" jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that" click, he hangs up. I call back, " Hello elan school can I help you", "Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery corruptlieb" Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery gottlieb?" me response, "yes he goes by that name aslo" Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?" my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?" Ealn "Sir, this is a thearupic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidence, if you would like to leave a message for jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him" my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"


    2003-11-19 22:31:00    The phone call to Tania Merret  Posted: 2003-11-19 11:04:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call? Yes I would like to speak to Tony Merret? Tony Merret? We don't have a Tony Merret that works here, there is a Tania Merret that works here. Ah yes That's it, Tony was the given birth name before it had a name and gender change. Tania is Tony ? You got me confused. Ok Tania Merret was born a man, went by the name Tony Merret.He had a sex and name changed and became Tania Marret.Now Tania is refered to as an "IT" "The operator giggles on the phone to me" I'm sorry but Tania is not available today can I take a message? No, I have no message for her at the time but I will try back another day. Okay , have a nice day.


                Early morning wake up call to ElanPosted: 2003-11-19 23:28:00    its 1:43 am and I decided to call elan. Hello this is Jacob can I help you? Yes is this the Elan school? Yes it is. HI, I was wondering who is the over night director that is working? That would be Mr.Rowe. Peter Rowe? Yes thats him oh Can I please speak to Peter? He is already sleeping and is unavailable to come to the phone. What? He is sleeping on the job??? "Jacob starts to giggle" Yes he has already went to bed, is there anything I could help you with sir? Yes jacob a a matter of fact you can.How long have you worked there at Elan? Oh I have been working the overnight shift for about 1 1/2 years now. So Jacob what could you tell me about little 13 year old girls having ketchup soaked tampons taped all over their heads?This is a practice that was once used as a thearputic method by Marty Kruglik and still might be a current method be used to this date. Well sir I don't know anything about what goes on here during the day.I work the night shift and see to that the night shift runs smoothly and everyone is safe and secure. Tell me something jacob, where are you located right now? I'm located in the main house in an office. Are you in the house that says elan 3 bulldogs? Yes I am. Would there be any corner people housed on the first floor this evening? No everyone is up in their dorms sound asleep with the exception of the owl that is pulling. Do you know the staff members that work at Elan during the day? Not personally but know all their names if that is what you mean. Yes that is exactly what I meant Jacob. Are you aware jacob, that the staff members that wok at Elan are criminals and sex offenders? No I did not know hat sir.By the way I didn't catch your name? Oh my name is John Richards, I'm with troubled teen magizine. Please to meet you John. Are you sure about that Jacob?I am actaually labled as a mortal enemy to most of the staff that work at Elan, you might not be so plased to have met me after the questions I need to ask you. Well John I work the night shift and what goes on here duroing the day is not part of my daily routine and responsibilites.I do know that there are consqueneces that can be harsh for student's that don't follow policy. WEll jacob what do you know about Clare Woodman that is a director that works durin the day? I have met clare a few times and seems to be an ok person in my book. Want the truth Jacob? The truth about what? About Clare Jacob? Sure lets hear it. Clare woodman is a prostitute and landed a job at Elan because she had sex with the former owner which now is a dead man. She was Joe Ricci's mistress. Oh my. Yes clare was his personal slut sex slave and use to have sex with joe all the time in a trailor the elan once had on the campus. oh my. Clare also use to have her clients which we will refer to as "Johns" comw to the school when she was working and she woul perform sexual acts for them. Oh my. And if you think that is bad wait to you hear about what Marty Kruglik use to do. Oh my, I don't know if I should be listening to anymore. Wait jacob, I think you should know about what use to go on at Elan many years back and might still be going on to this very date. Well continue then John. Marty Kruglik use to have homosexual relations and eat fecal matter with a teacher named Mr. Alboro in the old school house.They ould stick chalk up each other's buttholes and catch stray cats and sodomize them. Oh my Lord!!!! Yes they were some sick individuals. That is very nasty thing to do. Marty loves it though. Jeffery Gottlieb screams like a little bitch becuase many years ago he was in prison and was a huge blow up doll for all the inmates.They rammed their penis so hard up his ass that it made his voice tone sound like a woman when he yells. "Jacob is laughing on the phone" Jacob did you happen to notice if Peter Rowe was wearing pink slippers and went to sleep with a dildo up his ass before he turned in this evening? HaHaHa No I didn't John. I hear Peter Rowe loves playing with dildo's before he goes to sleep at night because he's gay. I try not to know too much about people and their preferences. Well Jacob it is getting late for me and I have this huge article I have to write tomorrow.Would you be kind enough to leave a message for Marty for me? Sure John. Tell Marty that the little boy he raped, I have located him and he is all grown up now and can't wait to pay him a visit. oh John I can't tell Marty that, I could loose my job. Ok then just tell Marty John Richards ssys "What comes around goes around" and " it all comes out in the wash" Marty will know what that means. I will write him a note and make sure he gets that John. Well it was a pleasure talking to you Jacob. Same here John. Goodnight Jacob You take care now John. Good bye.

[mark babitz]

:cheers:  :cheers:    Marty's parents old Tepee in Evanston were the little Indian was raised after  leaving the Reservation  :cheers:  :cheers:






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phone conversation for Good ole Marty Posted: 2003-11-19 10:26:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello elan school how may i direct your call? Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik Who shall I say is calling John Richards from trouble teen magazine Please hold while I direct your call Marty answers: Hello this is Martin can I help you? Yes Marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's therapeutic? And who may I ask is calling? This is John Richards from trouble teen magazine There is a magazine that is actually for troubled teens available to the public? Yes What do you publish in this magazine John? Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered therapeutic? If you are referring to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recollection of it. So you are denying this ever took place? I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occurred a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time. How long have you worked at Elan Martin? I have been here for around 9 years. Oh really, then why is it there are a lot of other people out there that say different? And whom are you referring to John? I'm sorry Martin, but that is privileged information. Privileged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also privileged information. Well Martin, did I at any time mention of request former students names? I don't think so. Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions? Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cronies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads? Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you. Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to little girl's head's. Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past. So you are not denying it now Marty? No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner. Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone calls or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without having to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era. I don't know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain. Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magazine. Okay John. Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you? If you are referring to some of those anti-Elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that holds grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight. Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct? John, when you are part of a school that focuses on teens that are emotional disturbed individuals. Heavy therapy is needed to help those people out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsuccessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebelling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school. Oh so you brainwash teens in other words? If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives. Marty, you mentioned that there are a lot of people that have went through your program and were unsuccessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate? John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth statistics with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's administrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions. I didn't call you Martin to discuss statistic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read a lot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan. I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment? Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994. Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John. Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurred way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's. John I went through the Elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long. Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin? Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens? Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ? It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's. Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerned about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty? Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magazine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and institution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John. Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at Elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be a lot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today. Ok John you have a nice day...... Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at Elan since the early 70's


.             Phone call to Clare Posted: 2003-11-19 11:28:00   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call? Yes could I please speak to Clare Woodman please? Who shall I say is calling? John Richards. Please hold. Hello this is Clare can I help you? Clare, Clare Woodman? Yes this is she. Well hello Clare,my name is John Richards and I am with the troubled Teen magazine and wanted to ask you a few questions about how a person like yourself landed a job at Elan. A person like myself? Yes Clare. And what kind of person am I? I don't know you tell me Clare?I don't want to be politically incorrect with you over the phone. Politically incorrect?? Well to be Frank with you Clare, I have read many stories about you in the last year about you being a call girl,a hooker, a prostitute and also a madam, so which is it. Is this Dan Bostdorf? No this is John Richards with trouble teen magazine No I think its you Dan.Look Dan, by harassing Me.Marty , and Jeffery you just make yourself look ridiculous.Why did you feel the need to call us at work and ask us stupid little questions?Are you planning on publishing another book about Elan? Look Clare, my name is John Richards, I am calling on behalf on allegations that you were involved with prostitution and somehow landed a job working at Elan with troubled teens and would like to know how a street Hooker like yourself is able to go from prostitution to counseling trouble teens? " A moment of silence" Hello, Clare are you still there? Yes I am here Dan,Dan you are so low.It's bad enough that you publish a stupid book called a duck in a raincoat which by the way makes no sense to anyone.And you go to websites and try to push it on former Elan residents and now you call up here asking outrageous questions to myself, Marty, and Jeffery.What kind of man are you Dan? Look Clare, I told you 2 times already my name is John Richards, I am not Dan Bostdorf.Perhaps everything said about you is true then, you swallowed too much cum and are an airhead. Okay Dan this conversation is over.Do not call here again. Clare hangs up the phone and sounded really p1ssed off.


     I just called Elan and finally spoke to Jeff, I asked him why he screamed like a little bitch "General Meeting" when someone insulted him? Jeff's response, "who is this" my response, " who is this doesn't matter" Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want" my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers" Jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that" click, he hangs up. I call back, " Hello Elan school can I help you", "Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery Corruptlieb" Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery Gottlieb?" me response, "yes he goes by that name also" Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?" my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?" Elan "Sir, this is a therapeutic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidance, if you would like to leave a message for Jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him" my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"


    2003-11-19 22:31:00    The phone call to Tania Merret  Posted: 2003-11-19 11:04:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call? Yes I would like to speak to Tony Merret? Tony Merret? We don't have a Tony Merret that works here, there is a Tania Merret that works here. Ah yes That's it, Tony was the given birth name before it had a name and gender change. Tania is Tony ? You got me confused. Ok Tania Merret was born a man, went by the name Tony Merret.He had a sex and name changed and became Tania Marret.Now Tania is referred to as an "IT" "The operator giggles on the phone to me" I'm sorry but Tania is not available today can I take a message? No, I have no message for her at the time but I will try back another day. Okay , have a nice day.


                Early morning wake up call to Elan Posted: 2003-11-19 23:28:00    its 1:43 am and I decided to call Elan. Hello this is Jacob can I help you? Yes is this the Elan school? Yes it is. HI, I was wondering who is the over night director that is working? That would be Mr.Rowe. Peter Rowe? Yes thats him oh Can I please speak to Peter? He is already sleeping and is unavailable to come to the phone. What? He is sleeping on the job??? "Jacob starts to giggle" Yes he has already went to bed, is there anything I could help you with sir? Yes Jacob a a matter of fact you can.How long have you worked there at Elan? Oh I have been working the overnight shift for about 1 1/2 years now. So Jacob what could you tell me about little 13 year old girls having ketchup soaked tampons taped all over their heads?This is a practice that was once used as a therapeutic method by Marty Kruglik and still might be a current method be used to this date. Well sir I don't know anything about what goes on here during the day.I work the night shift and see to that the night shift runs smoothly and everyone is safe and secure. Tell me something Jacob, where are you located right now? I'm located in the main house in an office. Are you in the house that says Elan 3 bulldogs? Yes I am. Would there be any corner people housed on the first floor this evening? No everyone is up in their dorms sound asleep with the exception of the owl that is pulling. Do you know the staff members that work at Elan during the day? Not personally but know all their names if that is what you mean. Yes that is exactly what I meant Jacob. Are you aware Jacob, that the staff members that wok at Elan are criminals and sex offenders? No I did not know hat sir.By the way I didn't catch your name? Oh my name is John Richards, I'm with troubled teen magazine. Please to meet you John. Are you sure about that Jacob?I am actually labeled as a mortal enemy to most of the staff that work at Elan, you might not be so pleased to have met me after the questions I need to ask you. Well John I work the night shift and what goes on here during the day is not part of my daily routine and responsibilities.I do know that there are consequences that can be harsh for student's that don't follow policy. Will Jacob what do you know about Clare Woodman that is a director that works during the day? I have met clare a few times and seems to be an ok person in my book. Want the truth Jacob? The truth about what? About Clare Jacob? Sure lets hear it. Clare woodman is a prostitute and landed a job at Elan because she had sex with the former owner which now is a dead man. She was Joe Ricci's mistress. Oh my. Yes Clare was his personal slut sex slave and use to have sex with Joe all the time in a trailer the Elan once had on the campus. oh my. Clare also use to have her clients which we will refer to as "Johns" come to the school when she was working and she would perform sexual acts for them. Oh my. And if you think that is bad wait to you hear about what Marty Kruglik use to do. Oh my, I don't know if I should be listening to anymore. Wait Jacob, I think you should know about what use to go on at Elan many years back and might still be going on to this very date. Well continue then John. Marty Kruglik use to have homosexual relations and eat fecal matter with a teacher named Mr. Alboro in the old school house.They ould stick chalk up each other's butt holes and catch stray cats and sodomize them. Oh my Lord!!!! Yes they were some sick individuals. That is very nasty thing to do. Marty loves it though. Jeffery Gottlieb screams like a little bitch because many years ago he was in prison and was a huge blow up doll for all the inmates.They rammed their penis so hard up his ass that it made his voice tone sound like a woman when he yells. "Jacob is laughing on the phone" Jacob did you happen to notice if Peter Rowe was wearing pink slippers and went to sleep with a dildo up his ass before he turned in this evening? HaHaHa No I didn't John. I hear Peter Rowe loves playing with dildo's before he goes to sleep at night because he's gay. I try not to know too much about people and their preferences. Well Jacob it is getting late for me and I have this huge article I have to write tomorrow.Would you be kind enough to leave a message for Marty for me? Sure John. Tell Marty that the little boy he raped, I have located him and he is all grown up now and can't wait to pay him a visit. oh John I can't tell Marty that, I could loose my job. Ok then just tell Marty John Richards says "What comes around goes around" and " it all comes out in the wash" Marty will know what that means. I will write him a note and make sure he gets that John. Well it was a pleasure talking to you Jacob. Same here John. Goodnight Jacob You take care now John. Good bye.

Some story, Why is everyone on Peter Rowes ass. Because of his coverage during the Michael Skakels trial.
Just ask'in.

[mark babitz]

phone conversation for Good ole Marty Posted: 2003-11-19 10:26:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello elan school how may i direct your call? Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik Who shall I say is calling John Richards from trouble teen magazine Please hold while I direct your call Marty answers: Hello this is Martin can I help you? Yes Marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's therapeutic? And who may I ask is calling? This is John Richards from trouble teen magazine There is a magazine that is actually for troubled teens available to the public? Yes What do you publish in this magazine John? Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered therapeutic? If you are referring to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recollection of it. So you are denying this ever took place? I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occurred a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time. How long have you worked at Elan Martin? I have been here for around 9 years. Oh really, then why is it there are a lot of other people out there that say different? And whom are you referring to John? I'm sorry Martin, but that is privileged information. Privileged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also privileged information. Well Martin, did I at any time mention of request former students names? I don't think so. Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions? Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cronies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads? Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you. Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to little girl's head's. Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past. So you are not denying it now Marty? No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner. Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone calls or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without having to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era. I don't know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain. Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magazine. Okay John. Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you? If you are referring to some of those anti-Elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that holds grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight. Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct? John, when you are part of a school that focuses on teens that are emotional disturbed individuals. Heavy therapy is needed to help those people out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsuccessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebelling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school. Oh so you brainwash teens in other words? If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives. Marty, you mentioned that there are a lot of people that have went through your program and were unsuccessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate? John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth statistics with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's administrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions. I didn't call you Martin to discuss statistic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read a lot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan. I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment? Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994. Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John. Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurred way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's. John I went through the Elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long. Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin? Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens? Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ? It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's. Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerned about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty? Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magazine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and institution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John. Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at Elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be a lot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today. Ok John you have a nice day...... Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at Elan since the early 70's


.             Phone call to Clare Posted: 2003-11-19 11:28:00   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call? Yes could I please speak to Clare Woodman please? Who shall I say is calling? John Richards. Please hold. Hello this is Clare can I help you? Clare, Clare Woodman? Yes this is she. Well hello Clare,my name is John Richards and I am with the troubled Teen magazine and wanted to ask you a few questions about how a person like yourself landed a job at Elan. A person like myself? Yes Clare. And what kind of person am I? I don't know you tell me Clare?I don't want to be politically incorrect with you over the phone. Politically incorrect?? Well to be Frank with you Clare, I have read many stories about you in the last year about you being a call girl,a hooker, a prostitute and also a madam, so which is it. Is this Dan Bostdorf? No this is John Richards with trouble teen magazine No I think its you Dan.Look Dan, by harassing Me.Marty , and Jeffery you just make yourself look ridiculous.Why did you feel the need to call us at work and ask us stupid little questions?Are you planning on publishing another book about Elan? Look Clare, my name is John Richards, I am calling on behalf on allegations that you were involved with prostitution and somehow landed a job working at Elan with troubled teens and would like to know how a street Hooker like yourself is able to go from prostitution to counseling trouble teens? " A moment of silence" Hello, Clare are you still there? Yes I am here Dan,Dan you are so low.It's bad enough that you publish a stupid book called a duck in a raincoat which by the way makes no sense to anyone.And you go to websites and try to push it on former Elan residents and now you call up here asking outrageous questions to myself, Marty, and Jeffery.What kind of man are you Dan? Look Clare, I told you 2 times already my name is John Richards, I am not Dan Bostdorf.Perhaps everything said about you is true then, you swallowed too much cum and are an airhead. Okay Dan this conversation is over.Do not call here again. Clare hangs up the phone and sounded really p1ssed off.


     I just called Elan and finally spoke to Jeff, I asked him why he screamed like a little bitch "General Meeting" when someone insulted him? Jeff's response, "who is this" my response, " who is this doesn't matter" Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want" my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers" Jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that" click, he hangs up. I call back, " Hello Elan school can I help you", "Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery Corruptlieb" Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery Gottlieb?" me response, "yes he goes by that name also" Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?" my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?" Elan "Sir, this is a therapeutic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidance, if you would like to leave a message for Jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him" my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"


    2003-11-19 22:31:00    The phone call to Tania Merret  Posted: 2003-11-19 11:04:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call? Yes I would like to speak to Tony Merret? Tony Merret? We don't have a Tony Merret that works here, there is a Tania Merret that works here. Ah yes That's it, Tony was the given birth name before it had a name and gender change. Tania is Tony ? You got me confused. Ok Tania Merret was born a man, went by the name Tony Merret.He had a sex and name changed and became Tania Marret.Now Tania is referred to as an "IT" "The operator giggles on the phone to me" I'm sorry but Tania is not available today can I take a message? No, I have no message for her at the time but I will try back another day. Okay , have a nice day.


                Early morning wake up call to Elan Posted: 2003-11-19 23:28:00    its 1:43 am and I decided to call Elan. Hello this is Jacob can I help you? Yes is this the Elan school? Yes it is. HI, I was wondering who is the over night director that is working? That would be Mr.Rowe. Peter Rowe? Yes thats him oh Can I please speak to Peter? He is already sleeping and is unavailable to come to the phone. What? He is sleeping on the job??? "Jacob starts to giggle" Yes he has already went to bed, is there anything I could help you with sir? Yes Jacob a a matter of fact you can.How long have you worked there at Elan? Oh I have been working the overnight shift for about 1 1/2 years now. So Jacob what could you tell me about little 13 year old girls having ketchup soaked tampons taped all over their heads?This is a practice that was once used as a therapeutic method by Marty Kruglik and still might be a current method be used to this date. Well sir I don't know anything about what goes on here during the day.I work the night shift and see to that the night shift runs smoothly and everyone is safe and secure. Tell me something Jacob, where are you located right now? I'm located in the main house in an office. Are you in the house that says Elan 3 bulldogs? Yes I am. Would there be any corner people housed on the first floor this evening? No everyone is up in their dorms sound asleep with the exception of the owl that is pulling. Do you know the staff members that work at Elan during the day? Not personally but know all their names if that is what you mean. Yes that is exactly what I meant Jacob. Are you aware Jacob, that the staff members that wok at Elan are criminals and sex offenders? No I did not know hat sir.By the way I didn't catch your name? Oh my name is John Richards, I'm with troubled teen magazine. Please to meet you John. Are you sure about that Jacob?I am actually labeled as a mortal enemy to most of the staff that work at Elan, you might not be so pleased to have met me after the questions I need to ask you. Well John I work the night shift and what goes on here during the day is not part of my daily routine and responsibilities.I do know that there are consequences that can be harsh for student's that don't follow policy. Will Jacob what do you know about Clare Woodman that is a director that works during the day? I have met clare a few times and seems to be an ok person in my book. Want the truth Jacob? The truth about what? About Clare Jacob? Sure lets hear it. Clare woodman is a prostitute and landed a job at Elan because she had sex with the former owner which now is a dead man. She was Joe Ricci's mistress. Oh my. Yes Clare was his personal slut sex slave and use to have sex with Joe all the time in a trailer the Elan once had on the campus. oh my. Clare also use to have her clients which we will refer to as "Johns" come to the school when she was working and she would perform sexual acts for them. Oh my. And if you think that is bad wait to you hear about what Marty Kruglik use to do. Oh my, I don't know if I should be listening to anymore. Wait Jacob, I think you should know about what use to go on at Elan many years back and might still be going on to this very date. Well continue then John. Marty Kruglik use to have homosexual relations and eat fecal matter with a teacher named Mr. Alboro in the old school house.They ould stick chalk up each other's butt holes and catch stray cats and sodomize them. Oh my Lord!!!! Yes they were some sick individuals. That is very nasty thing to do. Marty loves it though. Jeffery Gottlieb screams like a little bitch because many years ago he was in prison and was a huge blow up doll for all the inmates.They rammed their penis so hard up his ass that it made his voice tone sound like a woman when he yells. "Jacob is laughing on the phone" Jacob did you happen to notice if Peter Rowe was wearing pink slippers and went to sleep with a dildo up his ass before he turned in this evening? HaHaHa No I didn't John. I hear Peter Rowe loves playing with dildo's before he goes to sleep at night because he's gay. I try not to know too much about people and their preferences. Well Jacob it is getting late for me and I have this huge article I have to write tomorrow.Would you be kind enough to leave a message for Marty for me? Sure John. Tell Marty that the little boy he raped, I have located him and he is all grown up now and can't wait to pay him a visit. oh John I can't tell Marty that, I could loose my job. Ok then just tell Marty John Richards says "What comes around goes around" and " it all comes out in the wash" Marty will know what that means. I will write him a note and make sure he gets that John. Well it was a pleasure talking to you Jacob. Same here John. Goodnight Jacob You take care now John. Good bye.

Some story, Why is everyone on Peter Rowes ass. Because of his coverage during the Michael Skakels trial.
Just ask'in.

                          :rocker:  :rocker:  :rocker:   I dont know Danny, I just print what I find.  lol lol.
This was in some old articles I found looking for Pan Face Marty, His father was quite a scary person with out doubt and so was and is Pan Face's life. I wounder if he did something to his sister,? She reads like daddy's little girl in most references by daddy articles. I dont know ?. I do know he came from a family of great means and social stature, So what ever he did must have been pretty bad and embarrassing to his family for them to banish him. Daddy worked with the insane and Pan Face was too much to deal with I think we can only imagine, it's all in print so I cant think any other way. Daddy was better equipped than Elan according to his published credential. So why couldn't  he control Pan Face ? or why did he want to??? .

[Dr. Acula]

phone conversation for Good ole Marty Posted: 2003-11-19 10:26:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello elan school how may i direct your call? Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik Who shall I say is calling John Richards from trouble teen magazine Please hold while I direct your call Marty answers: Hello this is Martin can I help you? Yes Marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's therapeutic? And who may I ask is calling? This is John Richards from trouble teen magazine There is a magazine that is actually for troubled teens available to the public? Yes What do you publish in this magazine John? Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered therapeutic? If you are referring to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recollection of it. So you are denying this ever took place? I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occurred a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time. How long have you worked at Elan Martin? I have been here for around 9 years. Oh really, then why is it there are a lot of other people out there that say different? And whom are you referring to John? I'm sorry Martin, but that is privileged information. Privileged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also privileged information. Well Martin, did I at any time mention of request former students names? I don't think so. Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions? Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cronies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads? Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you. Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to little girl's head's. Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past. So you are not denying it now Marty? No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner. Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone calls or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without having to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era. I don't know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain. Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magazine. Okay John. Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you? If you are referring to some of those anti-Elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that holds grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight. Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct? John, when you are part of a school that focuses on teens that are emotional disturbed individuals. Heavy therapy is needed to help those people out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsuccessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebelling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school. Oh so you brainwash teens in other words? If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives. Marty, you mentioned that there are a lot of people that have went through your program and were unsuccessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate? John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth statistics with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's administrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions. I didn't call you Martin to discuss statistic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read a lot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan. I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment? Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994. Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John. Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurred way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's. John I went through the Elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long. Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin? Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens? Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ? It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's. Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerned about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty? Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magazine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and institution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John. Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at Elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be a lot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today. Ok John you have a nice day...... Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at Elan since the early 70's


.             Phone call to Clare Posted: 2003-11-19 11:28:00   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call? Yes could I please speak to Clare Woodman please? Who shall I say is calling? John Richards. Please hold. Hello this is Clare can I help you? Clare, Clare Woodman? Yes this is she. Well hello Clare,my name is John Richards and I am with the troubled Teen magazine and wanted to ask you a few questions about how a person like yourself landed a job at Elan. A person like myself? Yes Clare. And what kind of person am I? I don't know you tell me Clare?I don't want to be politically incorrect with you over the phone. Politically incorrect?? Well to be Frank with you Clare, I have read many stories about you in the last year about you being a call girl,a hooker, a prostitute and also a madam, so which is it. Is this Dan Bostdorf? No this is John Richards with trouble teen magazine No I think its you Dan.Look Dan, by harassing Me.Marty , and Jeffery you just make yourself look ridiculous.Why did you feel the need to call us at work and ask us stupid little questions?Are you planning on publishing another book about Elan? Look Clare, my name is John Richards, I am calling on behalf on allegations that you were involved with prostitution and somehow landed a job working at Elan with troubled teens and would like to know how a street Hooker like yourself is able to go from prostitution to counseling trouble teens? " A moment of silence" Hello, Clare are you still there? Yes I am here Dan,Dan you are so low.It's bad enough that you publish a stupid book called a duck in a raincoat which by the way makes no sense to anyone.And you go to websites and try to push it on former Elan residents and now you call up here asking outrageous questions to myself, Marty, and Jeffery.What kind of man are you Dan? Look Clare, I told you 2 times already my name is John Richards, I am not Dan Bostdorf.Perhaps everything said about you is true then, you swallowed too much cum and are an airhead. Okay Dan this conversation is over.Do not call here again. Clare hangs up the phone and sounded really p1ssed off.


     I just called Elan and finally spoke to Jeff, I asked him why he screamed like a little bitch "General Meeting" when someone insulted him? Jeff's response, "who is this" my response, " who is this doesn't matter" Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want" my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers" Jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that" click, he hangs up. I call back, " Hello Elan school can I help you", "Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery Corruptlieb" Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery Gottlieb?" me response, "yes he goes by that name also" Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?" my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?" Elan "Sir, this is a therapeutic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidance, if you would like to leave a message for Jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him" my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"


    2003-11-19 22:31:00    The phone call to Tania Merret  Posted: 2003-11-19 11:04:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good afternoon Elan school how may I direct your call? Yes I would like to speak to Tony Merret? Tony Merret? We don't have a Tony Merret that works here, there is a Tania Merret that works here. Ah yes That's it, Tony was the given birth name before it had a name and gender change. Tania is Tony ? You got me confused. Ok Tania Merret was born a man, went by the name Tony Merret.He had a sex and name changed and became Tania Marret.Now Tania is referred to as an "IT" "The operator giggles on the phone to me" I'm sorry but Tania is not available today can I take a message? No, I have no message for her at the time but I will try back another day. Okay , have a nice day.


                Early morning wake up call to Elan Posted: 2003-11-19 23:28:00    its 1:43 am and I decided to call Elan. Hello this is Jacob can I help you? Yes is this the Elan school? Yes it is. HI, I was wondering who is the over night director that is working? That would be Mr.Rowe. Peter Rowe? Yes thats him oh Can I please speak to Peter? He is already sleeping and is unavailable to come to the phone. What? He is sleeping on the job??? "Jacob starts to giggle" Yes he has already went to bed, is there anything I could help you with sir? Yes Jacob a a matter of fact you can.How long have you worked there at Elan? Oh I have been working the overnight shift for about 1 1/2 years now. So Jacob what could you tell me about little 13 year old girls having ketchup soaked tampons taped all over their heads?This is a practice that was once used as a therapeutic method by Marty Kruglik and still might be a current method be used to this date. Well sir I don't know anything about what goes on here during the day.I work the night shift and see to that the night shift runs smoothly and everyone is safe and secure. Tell me something Jacob, where are you located right now? I'm located in the main house in an office. Are you in the house that says Elan 3 bulldogs? Yes I am. Would there be any corner people housed on the first floor this evening? No everyone is up in their dorms sound asleep with the exception of the owl that is pulling. Do you know the staff members that work at Elan during the day? Not personally but know all their names if that is what you mean. Yes that is exactly what I meant Jacob. Are you aware Jacob, that the staff members that wok at Elan are criminals and sex offenders? No I did not know hat sir.By the way I didn't catch your name? Oh my name is John Richards, I'm with troubled teen magazine. Please to meet you John. Are you sure about that Jacob?I am actually labeled as a mortal enemy to most of the staff that work at Elan, you might not be so pleased to have met me after the questions I need to ask you. Well John I work the night shift and what goes on here during the day is not part of my daily routine and responsibilities.I do know that there are consequences that can be harsh for student's that don't follow policy. Will Jacob what do you know about Clare Woodman that is a director that works during the day? I have met clare a few times and seems to be an ok person in my book. Want the truth Jacob? The truth about what? About Clare Jacob? Sure lets hear it. Clare woodman is a prostitute and landed a job at Elan because she had sex with the former owner which now is a dead man. She was Joe Ricci's mistress. Oh my. Yes Clare was his personal slut sex slave and use to have sex with Joe all the time in a trailer the Elan once had on the campus. oh my. Clare also use to have her clients which we will refer to as "Johns" come to the school when she was working and she would perform sexual acts for them. Oh my. And if you think that is bad wait to you hear about what Marty Kruglik use to do. Oh my, I don't know if I should be listening to anymore. Wait Jacob, I think you should know about what use to go on at Elan many years back and might still be going on to this very date. Well continue then John. Marty Kruglik use to have homosexual relations and eat fecal matter with a teacher named Mr. Alboro in the old school house.They ould stick chalk up each other's butt holes and catch stray cats and sodomize them. Oh my Lord!!!! Yes they were some sick individuals. That is very nasty thing to do. Marty loves it though. Jeffery Gottlieb screams like a little bitch because many years ago he was in prison and was a huge blow up doll for all the inmates.They rammed their penis so hard up his ass that it made his voice tone sound like a woman when he yells. "Jacob is laughing on the phone" Jacob did you happen to notice if Peter Rowe was wearing pink slippers and went to sleep with a dildo up his ass before he turned in this evening? HaHaHa No I didn't John. I hear Peter Rowe loves playing with dildo's before he goes to sleep at night because he's gay. I try not to know too much about people and their preferences. Well Jacob it is getting late for me and I have this huge article I have to write tomorrow.Would you be kind enough to leave a message for Marty for me? Sure John. Tell Marty that the little boy he raped, I have located him and he is all grown up now and can't wait to pay him a visit. oh John I can't tell Marty that, I could loose my job. Ok then just tell Marty John Richards says "What comes around goes around" and " it all comes out in the wash" Marty will know what that means. I will write him a note and make sure he gets that John. Well it was a pleasure talking to you Jacob. Same here John. Goodnight Jacob You take care now John. Good bye.

Some story, Why is everyone on Peter Rowes ass. Because of his coverage during the Michael Skakels trial.
Just ask'in.

                          :rocker:  :rocker:  :rocker:   I dont know Danny, I just print what I find.  lol lol.
This was in some old articles I found looking for Pan Face Marty, His father was quite a scary person with out doubt and so was and is Pan Face's life. I wounder if he did something to his sister,? She reads like daddy's little girl in most references by daddy articles. I dont know ?. I do know he came from a family of great means and social stature, So what ever he did must have been pretty bad and embarrassing to his family for them to banish him. Daddy worked with the insane and Pan Face was too much to deal with I think we can only imagine, it's all in print so I cant think any other way. Daddy was better equipped than Elan according to his published credential. So why couldn't  he control Pan Face ? or why did he want to??? .

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Sharom Mc Carty was involved in a fatal crash last night July 31,2010 in the Galena Il area Jo Davies County Il, Her and her two kids are in Rockford Memorial Hospital. { In compliance of the HEPA Law } I am reporting this with Sharon Mc Carty's permission.

 Accident happed about 9:00 or 10;00 Sat night, according to Sharon a truck came threw the intersection and got em, One child is scratched up and she said the other was having Brain Surgery to put in a stint. She said Tim R. was killed on in pack and was called dead at the scene.

She is at Rockford Memorial room 212--815-971-5000
She could probably use a call or some well wishing in her horrible time time now. Thanks Mark.

[Pile of Dead Kids]

Can this please be the start of a trend?

[DannyB II]

Sharom Mc Carty was involved in a fatal crash last night July 31,2010 in the Galena Il area Jo Davies County Il, Her and her two kids are in Rockford Memorial Hospital. { In compliance of the HEPA Law } I am reporting this with Sharon Mc Carty's permission.

 Accident happed about 9:00 or 10;00 Sat night, according to Sharon a truck came threw the intersection and got em, One child is scratched up and she said the other was having Brain Surgery to put in a stint. She said Tim R. was killed on in pack and was called dead at the scene.

She is at Rockford Memorial room 212 D--815-971-5000
She could probably use a call or some well wishing in her horrible time time now. Thanks Mark.

Thank You
Danny

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Another Fatal Car Crash Leaves One Man Dead
Another two-vehicle crash near U-S Route 20 and Route 84 North in Jo Davies County leaves one man dead.

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Authorities say a car headed South on 84 did not yield and crashed into another vehicle. The driver of the first car was pronounced dead on the scene. The woman and two children in that car were taken to area hospitals as well as the driver and two passengers in the second car. The name of the deceased is not being released at this time

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Sharom Mc Carty was involved in a fatal crash last night July 31,2010 in the Galena Il area Jo Davies County Il, Her and her two kids are in Rockford Memorial Hospital. { In compliance of the HEPA Law } I am reporting this with Sharon Mc Carty's permission.

 Accident happed about 9:00 or 10;00 Sat night, according to Sharon a truck came threw the intersection and got em, One child is scratched up and she said the other was having Brain Surgery to put in a stint. She said Tim R. was killed on in pack and was called dead at the scene.

She is at Rockford Memorial room 212--815-971-5000
She could probably use a call or some well wishing in her horrible time time now. Thanks Mark.

Wow. That is just awful. Terrible thing to happen for all concerned...

I hope the survivors all end up okay. Poor Sharon!

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Another Fatal Car Crash Leaves One Man Dead
Another two-vehicle crash near U-S Route 20 and Route 84 North in Jo Davies County leaves one man dead.

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Authorities say a car headed South on 84 did not yield and crashed into another vehicle. The driver of the first car was pronounced dead on the scene. The woman and two children in that car were taken to area hospitals as well as the driver and two passengers in the second car. The name of the deceased is not being released at this time

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Another Fatal Car Crash Leaves One Man Dead

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