Elan discussion from New Forum Policies

[Joel]

Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

[mark babitz]

Mark if you're a U2 fan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkBzkA9 ... re=related  :rocker:

  :cheers:  :cheers:  U2 does rock and presents themselves very well I think, great video Joel , thanks :rocker:  :rocker:

[mark babitz]

:roflmao:  :clown:  :roflmao:     http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=vY ... elan&hl=en   :jawdrop:  :jawdrop:  :jawdrop:


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[mark babitz]

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interesting Message on Elan Board
Sounds like what happened to our programs!

-Scott


Reply Email From John Ricci
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Hello everyone, I hope you are all getting ready for a great summer. I'm doing great.

John Ricci sent me an email yesterday, asking me to post it (he is having login problems that are being resolved.) Some interesting developments are occuring in Poland.

Thanks for reading, and thanks for the post, John.

David Hirsh
Elan School Survivors



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I recently recieved a phone call from a local contractor who I have done buisness with over the years. He was called by Elan to evaluate/repair a variety of problems throughout the complex. He could not believe the condition of the facility explaining its run down condition, and comparing it to a shanty town. This was no surprise to me as I have recieved many calls over the years from contractor friends seeking payment for services at Elan, thinking perhaps I had some pull with Joe, which we know is nonsense.

After a brief conversation with my only remaining friend still working at Elan, I learned that the Poland complex need for repair exceeds the value of the property. This coupled with a score of existing liens from suppliers and contractors seeking payment has the Poland property stalled in court. The real estate industry calls this type of property a White Elephant.

This has already effected the resident population as parents who visit expect better conditions for thier 50K. It was trendy to get well in log cabins in the 1970s, but not in the 00s when you market yourself as a private school for college bound kids.

Factor into this the incredibly bad press Elan has absorbed of late, and there you have a real mess.

I expect a slow demise for the Elan School. The gross mismanagment of the facility on a buisiness level has them ankle deep in red ink. I predict that Elan will slowly gear down toward a scheduled date to close. The current owners will liquidate everything and retire. They are at that age, and all of them deserving. Sharon has to be spent from twenty years of running the entire operation and maintaining a relationship with Joe. Jeffrey has upward of thirty years into Elan and is in my opinion one of the few decent directors. Marty was/is the only regional director to have run all facilities at a time when the resident/staff population was at its highest. The program nose dived with him gone in the 80s.

I clearly see the three of them leaving Elan in the next few years, closing the school and selling the property.

Thanks, John
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[mark babitz]

:cheers:  :cheers:   http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... izErDnprXQ

[DannyB II]

:roflmao:

interesting Message on Elan Board
Sounds like what happened to our programs!

-Scott


Reply Email From John Ricci
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Hello everyone, I hope you are all getting ready for a great summer. I'm doing great.

John Ricci sent me an email yesterday, asking me to post it (he is having login problems that are being resolved.) Some interesting developments are occuring in Poland.

Thanks for reading, and thanks for the post, John.

David Hirsh
Elan School Survivors



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I recently recieved a phone call from a local contractor who I have done buisness with over the years. He was called by Elan to evaluate/repair a variety of problems throughout the complex. He could not believe the condition of the facility explaining its run down condition, and comparing it to a shanty town. This was no surprise to me as I have recieved many calls over the years from contractor friends seeking payment for services at Elan, thinking perhaps I had some pull with Joe, which we know is nonsense.

After a brief conversation with my only remaining friend still working at Elan, I learned that the Poland complex need for repair exceeds the value of the property. This coupled with a score of existing liens from suppliers and contractors seeking payment has the Poland property stalled in court. The real estate industry calls this type of property a White Elephant.

This has already effected the resident population as parents who visit expect better conditions for thier 50K. It was trendy to get well in log cabins in the 1970s, but not in the 00s when you market yourself as a private school for college bound kids.

Factor into this the incredibly bad press Elan has absorbed of late, and there you have a real mess.

I expect a slow demise for the Elan School. The gross mismanagment of the facility on a buisiness level has them ankle deep in red ink. I predict that Elan will slowly gear down toward a scheduled date to close. The current owners will liquidate everything and retire. They are at that age, and all of them deserving. Sharon has to be spent from twenty years of running the entire operation and maintaining a relationship with Joe. Jeffrey has upward of thirty years into Elan and is in my opinion one of the few decent directors. Marty was/is the only regional director to have run all facilities at a time when the resident/staff population was at its highest. The program nose dived with him gone in the 80s.

I clearly see the three of them leaving Elan in the next few years, closing the school and selling the property.

Thanks, John
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Mark do we have a date of letter, maybe a link??
Nice work Mark.

[mark babitz]

:waaaa:  :waaaa:  :waaaa:  Pan Faces Daddy Died  :waaaa:  :waaaa:  :waaaa:



                       :rocker:             His Dad should have kept him in Statesville  Prison under his care    :rocker:




Dr. Meyer Kruglik, 95, died peacefully on Sunday, May 9, 2010, in Glenview, Illinois. He pushed himself hard to succeed, and expected nothing less from his children and grandchildren. His parents, Mendel and Sarah, immigrated to America from White Russia in 1909, shortening the family name, Krugliakov, at Ellis Island. Meyer was born November 3, 1914,in Brooklyn, NY. Mendel worked in a candy factory in Buffalo and died when Meyer was 13 years old. Yiddish, spoken at home, was Meyer's first language. Mendel's way of stressing "the importance of an education" was to encourage his son to become either a plumber or a carpenter, finally advising the boy to choose plumbing because it was the more profitable trade. But Meyer had other ideas, and after graduating at age 16 from Hutchinson Tech., a rigorous Buffalo high school, he pursued pre-med studies at Buffalo's Canisius College. In 1934, he moved to Chicago to attend the University of Illinois Medical School, living with the family of Mendel's distant cousin Harry Ginsburg. He fell in love with Harry's daughter Gertrude and wed her after graduating in 1938. Their seventy-one year marriage ended at Gertrude's death in 2009. While serving on the Zuni reservation in New Mexico, Dr. Kruglik was drafted into the US Army immediately after Pearl Harbor and assigned to the psychiatry service at the VA hospital in Chillicothe, Ohio, until after VJ day in 1945. From 1947 until his retirement in 1994 as Chief of Psychiatry, he served at Stateville, the Illinois State Penitentiary. He was a leader in the field of forensic psychiatry and provided expert witness testimony in many criminal cases. In 1966, he developed a psychological and physical profile of the unknown killer of seven student nurses, leading Chicago police to Richard Speck, who was arrested and convicted of the crime. Dr. Kruglik also maintained a private practice on Michigan Avenue throughout his career and taught psychiatry at Chicago Medical School. In retirement, Dr. Kruglik became well known at the Hyatt Classic Residence in the Glen, as a memoir writer, composer of sonnets, playwright of works performed by residents, and ringing-voiced singer. He is survived by four children, Michael (Marla) Kruglik, Dr. Gerald (Barbara Bottner) Kruglik, Sally (Dr. Bruce) Bauer, and [ Martin Kruglik ] ; by grandsons, Dr. Erik (Dr. Amanda F.) Bauer, Geoffrey (Valerie) Kruglik, and Harry Kruglik; by great-grandsons, Carson and Graham Bauer; and by sister-in-law, Evelyn (George) Smith. A small memorial service for Dr. Kruglik will be held at 1 p.m., Wednesday, May 12, 2010, at the care center, Classic Residence by Hyatt, Glenview, IL. Gifts in memory of Dr. Kruglik can be sent to Building One America, 901 S. Plymouth Ct., Unit 1703, Chicago 60605, or to Northshore University Health System, Section of Pediatric Plastic Surgery. The family and friends will gather after 7 p.m. at the Bauer residence, 4418 W. Pratt Ave, Lincolnwood.
Published in Chicago Tribune on May 12, 201

 :cheers:  Notice how Fan Face is not an Indian by birth and he is mentioned last in the notice.

[mark babitz]

You are here: ChicagoTribune.com>Collections>Psychiatry
Forensic psychiatrist 'a probing individual'
Developed profile that led to arrest of Richard Speck
May 18, 2010|By Joan Giangrasse Kates, Special to the Tribune
After eight student nurses were brutally tortured and murdered in a dormitory near South Chicago Community Hospital in Chicago on July 14, 1966, detectives turned to Dr. Meyer Kruglik, a leader in forensic psychiatry, to develop a psychological and physical profile of the unknown killer.

With the help of Dr. Kruglik, the chief of psychiatry at Stateville, the Illinois state penitentiary near Joliet, Chicago police arrested Richard Speck, an Illinois-born drifter who was raised in Texas and had committed a series of smaller crimes. Speck later was convicted of the murders.

"He was one of the first people called when the news of the murders hit," said his daughter, Sally Bauer, who was in her teens at the time

[mark babitz]

Forensic psychiatrist 'a probing individual'
By Joan Giangrasse Kates, Special to the Tribune | May 18, 2010
After eight student nurses were brutally tortured and murdered in a dormitory near South Chicago Community Hospital in Chicago on July 14, 1966, detectives turned to Dr. Meyer Kruglik, a leader in forensic psychiatry, to develop a psychological and physical profile of the unknown killer. With the help of Dr. Kruglik, the chief of psychiatry at Stateville, the Illinois state penitentiary near Joliet, Chicago police arrested Richard Speck, an Illinois-born drifter who was raised in Texas and had committed a series of smaller crime

[mark babitz]

:jawdrop:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk8_EMlO ... tube_gdata  :jawdrop:

         "  Speck " was one of the most infamous killers in US history and spent his time in Stateville Prison in Illinois
             He murdered 8 student nurses in the mid 60s




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17XiOTau ... re=related   part 2

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8qd2c00 ... re=related part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6AVjzTf ... re=related    part 5
When he went to Prison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i725FCBJ ... re=related good times in the joint

[mark babitz]

:rocker:  :rocker:  http://badlawyernyc.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... t-who.html  :rocker:  


 Now someone tell me" Pan Face "  dont look like his Daddy the prison shrink

[mark babitz]

Pan Faces Mommy


She was among the first group of Americans to open China up to tourism, in the mid 1970's. She traveled extensively to Asia and then Africa, studying and pursuing their eclectic interests in art and culture.

Her cultural interests started early in 1941 when she lived with the Zuni Indians on a Reservation in New Mexico where Meyer was the local physician.

Drawing on those interests, they retired to the Southwest and began studying, and supporting Indian and other Western arts.

Upon moving back to the Chicago area, The Krugliks were among the first residents, in 2002 to open up the Classic Residence by Hyatt, Continual Care Community, in Glenview where they were extremely active residents.

Gertrude was especially active in Play Reading, and in welcoming and integrating new residents into the community.She remained an avid physical fitness buff right through her late 80's. She is survived by her husband, Dr Meyer Kruglik; her three sons Michael, Dr Gerald and Martin Kruglik; her daughter Sally Kruglik Bauer; Her sister Evelyn Ginsburg Smith and three grandchildren, Dr Erik Bauer, Geoffrey Kruglik and Harry Kruglik and two great grandchildren, Carson and Graham Bauer.

She will also be greatly missed by her son in law, Dr Bruce Bauer, her daughters in law, Barbara Bottner, and Marla Kruglik, and her granddaughter's in law, Dr Amanda Bauer, and Valerie Kruglik.

A private memorial was held on June 2nd at the Classic Residence by Hyatt,. Her remains were donated to Anatomical Gifts for scientific research . Donations in her memory can be made to Northshore University Health System, Dept of Plastic Surgery, to benefit Pediatric Plastic/Reconstructive Surgery patients.Make checks out to Northshore Foundation (designated to Pediatric Plastic Surgery) 1033 University Place, Suite 450, Evanston 60201 or to MARC, Metropolitan Area Research Corporation.

C/O Michael Kruglik 901 S Plymouth Court Apt 1703, Chicago, 60605.

Sign Guestbook at chicagotribune.com/obituaries

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This is a paid death notice.



June 14, 2009
Gertrude Ginsburg Kruglik was born on September 26, 1918 and died on June 1, 2009.

On February 6,1938 she married Dr. Meyer Kruglik, her husband of 71 years . She received her BSW from Roosevelt University in 1940.

Between 1977 and 1994, she served as the Owner/President of Bali Hai Travel.

[mark babitz]

Pan Faces family members seem to  not even talk to him, they are all friends on Facebook but not with Pan Face
Siblings,

Michael
Gerald
Sally

Nephews

Geoffery
Harry

[mark babitz]

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[mark babitz]

RICCI SETTLES HARASSMENT LAWSUIT A JURY AWARDS A FORMER SCARBOROUGH DOWNS EMPLOYEE $102,000. JOSEPH RICCI THEN DECIDES TO SETTLE THE CASE.
By   Jason Wolfe Staff Writer
Portland Press Herald (ME) July 12, 1996
Page 1B

The owner of Scarborough Downs settled a sexual harassment lawsuit filed by a former employee for an undisclosed sum Thursday after a jury awarded her $102,000 and was about to consider punitive damages.

Jurors concluded Joseph Ricci, the harness track's owner, sexually harassed Stacey Hagerman during a drunken, vulgarity-filled tirade March 25, 1995, that included a threat to have her killed.
The jury deliberated for 2 1/2 hours after a spirited closing argument by