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[Anonymous]

Ginger,

Thank you for your support.

You are making a differnce in this fight against the Teen Help industry through your website.This Forum.

There is a healing process taking place by reading expressing onesself.

I believe we have been given this responsibilty for a reason.I don't fully understand , but I believe.

"Never doubt that a Small Group of thoughtful,committed citizens can change the world.  Margret Mead

[Antigen]

You are SO welcome!  :nworthy:

Being a street cop, witnessing the tragedy firsthand, I've become
convinced that drug prohibition -- not drugs themselves -- are driving the HIV epidemic and the systemic crime that has swamped our criminal justice systems.
--Vancouver Police Const. Gil Puder

[Anonymous]

The U.S. Congress also has taken interest in the Utah-based WorldWide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP), the behavior-modification umbrella organization to which Dundee belonged.

House Representative George Miller of California, the ranking Democrat on the House Education Committee, last month asked the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to review WWASP's tax-exempt status and investigate whether the organization has received any special tax treatment in the past.

One of Rep. Miller's congressional aides said this week that the congressman also is preparing to ask U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft to open a federal criminal investigation into alleged child mistreatment at WWASP programs      .

[Antigen]

We get it! We're thrilled! Just post a link to more info. Those who are interested will read, discuss, go into apaplectic convulsions or whatever. But please, this is just getting boring.

The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive.


--Thomas Sowell

[Anonymous]

Don't know if this is relevant or not.  One of the parents in the NY Times article is on the PURE parent volunteer list,  Michele Ziperovich, the lawyer from Seattle.

[MelissaR]

Yah that is semi- relevant. I guess at this point, anything that is going to bring WWASP down is a step in the right direction. I personally believe that there is no healthy teen incarceration, but if it takes a little give and take to get somewhere.....it's better than nowhere.

[Antigen]

I just found out that vindictive hate for childern and for his long-term involvement in Bill Gothard's Institute of Basic Life Principles and, oddly enough (or not), this organization just happens to have spread like a bad case of black mold to Australia; you know, where Melvin Sembler used to reside in public housing.

Curiouser and curiouser, eh?

Web pages are like babies -- creation involves a level of enthusiasm that does not necessarily carry over into maintenance.
--Joe Chew

[Anonymous]

In a 1999 interview with The Rocky Mountain News, however, Kay, who at that time had left the Wwasps organization, criticized its programs and staff. The staff was "a bunch of untrained people," he said, according to the newspaper. "They don't have credentials of any kind."

"We could be leading these kids to long-term problems that we don't have a clue about because we're not going about it in the proper way," he said. "How in the hell can you call yourself a behavior-modification program -- and that's one of the ways it's marketed -- when nobody has the experience to determine: Is this good, is this bad? "

[Anonymous]

we would love to hear that tape. bet he regrets that.