TB Employees shirts say- Working for the future of the World

[Anonymous]

So what was that that the WWASPers were saying about them having no intention of "saving the World?

looks like their true intentions have been released lately with Lichfield saying he's doing Gods work and employees sporting shirts that read they are working on the future of the world.

[Anonymous]

Geez, the very name of this organization (WORLD WIDE ASSOCIATION) tells me what these folks are all about.  Mass indoctrination of Mormon-based values and beliefs.

[Jeff_Berryman]

In graduate school I had a department chairman who was also the President of the local Mormon stake, and a truly fine human being.  He went on to work for the Mormon missionary effort in Moscow.  He died a while back and I really miss him.  I can't speak for all Mormons, but WWASPs values definitely weren't his values.  He at least would have been revolted by everything WWASP ever stood for, and I think a lot of other Mormons would also.  Unfortunately, those kinds of Mormons are not the ones who run the show.  My father got better acquainted with the Church's top leadership than he wanted to many years ago.  From what he told me, I think the Mormon church would be a lot better off if it replaced ALL the people at the top.

[Carey]

Attacking one's religion is not the right thing to do.  The kids in these programs are not being indoctrinated into the Mormon religion.  The schools may primarily be being run by Mormons but to say all Mormons are bad based on their affilitaion with the WWASP schools is wrong.

[Anonymous]

Carey, I think you may be missing the point here. The values and beliefs of Mormons have a lot to do with the way they view adolescent behavior. While the programs,themselves, are not focused on indoctrinating children into the Mormon religion, according to their brochures, they are focused on submerging children in a controlled environment and instilling them with a new set of values and beliefs.  What these are, I do not know, but perhaps you can explain?

[Carey]

From everything I have learned and am learning about Dundee from my boys, tells me they are trying to instill the values that most of us hold dear.  However, they seem to be going about it all the wrong way.

[Antigen]

This is a quote that permanently resides near the top of the Anonanon page:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis.

Good intentions underneath it all? Sure, I believe that. I always have, really, even when I was the one getting pinned down to a cold concrete floor for a couple of hours by half a dozen heavy girls.

But I think you're making a mistake when you shy away from honest and direct criticizm of someone's actions just because they might be members of a particular religion. The term "Grab the priest and cry sanctuary" springs to mind.

Check out the other thread on dealing with Scary John. This abusive mind control cult, IBLP, has been garnering political sway and influence for years by chastizing all critics as God haters.

The legislature is to society as a physician is to the patient. If a physician ignored side effects of medications like today's legislators ignore the side effects of their legislation, the physician would be accused of malpractice. I accuse today's legislators (with rare exception) of legislative malpractice. Many of the ills that are so obvious in our society are a direct result of previous legislation. Their solution? More laws!
-- John A. Bennett, DO