i'm refusing to go back.

[Anonymous]

one thing anya has to consider when running away or getting emancipated is this:

a high school diploma is very important, as is college. A GED, unless one has some other special qualifications, is virtually worthless. Someone without a high school diploma, or with a GED, shouldnt expect to make for than 25 thousand a year cleaning hotel rooms or houses or doing people's nail; unless of course they have a special skill or talent, or look amazingly good. Basically, without a high school diploma you better be cut out for definite success as a rockstar, stripper, pornstar, artist, or specialist of some sort that requires pure brawn and experience with zero traditional education (e.g alaska hunting guide, fisherman, oil rig worker). Otherwise, the only way you're making more than 25 grand a year is through criminal means. A high school diploma is now the equivalent of what a middle school diploma was until the 80's. a college diploma is now the equivalent of what a high-school diploma was until the 90's, and a masters is the equivalent to what a college diploma was untill the 2000's. Without a high school diploma, she's never getting into college. with a GED all she'll be able to go to is Devry or community college. If she gets her high school diploma, she could move to california and get almost unlimited education for free after living there a little while, or move to NY and get an excellent education at the CUNY or SUNY schools for under three grand a semester.

If she runs away, she cant go to school. getting into a school with a fake identity is pointless and nearly impossible.
If she gets emancipated, it will be very difficult for her to both go to school and work. It's one or the other. If it's school, she either needs to take out a loan (will be nearly impossible in the current market, would be difficult for her anyway even five years ago, and would probably leave her in debt the rest of her life regardless), or needs to find someone to support her in the meantime (eliminating the point of getting emancipated in the first place - just request a change of guardian if you know someone who would support you). If she doesnt go to school and decides to work, unless she has some very special talent or skill or looks like she could be on the cover of playboy one day, she's committing herself to a life of poverty and dead-end jobs. she'll either have to sell sex or drugs (end up in jail), or be on her knees the rest of her life. probably both.

so my recommendation to anya is to find another relative who can take her in and support her. otherwise, just get the treatment over with and wait till you graduate high school and turn 18 to move away from your parents. or she better start either building tons of muscle, loosing tons of weight stretching out her anus and getting a tit job, or getting really really good at either acting or a musical instrument.

[Anonymous]

Or find a geeky, desperate male with a good paying job and no social skills where the age of consent is low enough.

[Curious George]

Are you sure Anya is a girl?

Maybe Anya is a guy who forgot to change the name of his doggie at CALO.

If I'm wrong, I apologize, and you can move on with your life and completely ignore me.  If I'm right, people are worried about you and aren't going to send you back to a program.  That's a fact, I've spoken to them.

By the way, Che is correct, running away isn't a crime, but thats not the end of it is it? Right?  Individuals have 10 years AFTER you turn 18 to charge you.  It's called statute of limitations and WILL result in jail, Maybe your smart enough to know I'm not bullshitting you.  Remember, I've been there.  Did the rest of you forget about statues?  And it's not a threat to all you jag-bags out there, it's a warning to someone you might actually care about.  Get your head screwed on straight.  The only way to fix this is to repair it, not ignore it or run.  It's going to catch up with you and you will look back and wonder why I left that resort I was in.  Yea, it may have been horseshit, but it wasn't hell.  You probably won't understand that though since you never really experienced hell yet.  

The previous posters are correct, jail is infinately worse than any of your programs could possibly be.  It's really more like hockey camp isn't it?  You can't imagine how worse jail is.

I just love it when people think they have it so bad because they were told "NO".  If you really think this was abuse, or a paddle on your little heinie was abuse, wait till bubba rapist gets ahold of you.

BTW I listened to Judas Priest, grew up in a major gang infested city, had many of my friends killed by Latin Kings, Simon City Royals, Disciples, Spanish Cobra's, OA's, Jousters.......the point is only the weak minded sissy assholes (outside of jail - jail is survival mode, I get this) get caught up in this shit.  I love it more when they turn on each other too, makes for great headlines, and one less piece of shit in the world.  

I grew up right in the middle of it and I never joined a gang, sold drugs or committed crimes.  In my neighborhood, if you did this crap, you didn't last long.  Some old school guy just beat you senseless.  And if you didn't learn to shut your mouth and act respectfully or responsibly, then they just suicided you.  Yea, it a fact, there are people out there Anya that will kill you for a quarter or less.  If you think it's bad where your at, come live in my town.

Don't be a jerk, get your life back on track.  Death is permanent "Anya", it's a real risk, this isn't the movies or a fairy tail here, you have no guarantees on the street and no support.   You need to work hard, noone is just going to drop happiness in your lap and you don't have it as bad as it could be.

I hope you get smart, running isn't the answer.

CG

[Che Gookin]

The likelyhood of them going after you for running away after you turn 18 is miniscule, unless you go on a six state crime spree and then they'll be coming after you for something else entirely. Statute of limitations for most crimes are much shorter than than ten years anyway. That is unless Anya was sent to the program by the order of the state. That's another deal and if that is the case I hope this Anya takes the time to contact one of us with their particulars. It's possible leverage can be exerted by a caring relative, unlike her/his parents who are content to trust their own child that cunt Ken Huey.

If it is CALo we are talking about I can certainly understand why ANYA is thinking of refusing to go back. Nothing I've heard about the place makes me believe he/she will be any safer there than anywhere else. You have staff throwing kids on their face for a snowball, kids being made to vomit in accountibility huddles, kids being terrorized and victimized by their therapists, and apparently a revolving door of students who are getting pulled due to a slew of reasons.

Nah, if it is CALO you are wise to refuse, but you better be damn good and sure you know what you are getting into if you do pull a runner. They'll hunt you like an animal and more than likely have you sent to a shittier program. If you were remanded by the state, and depending upon what state you are in, I'd ask what sort of time I'd be looking at and where.

ps. With a GED you can get into a Community college and then transfer to a 4 year college after you get your AA. A GED isn't much but it can open that specific door for you.  It isn't by far the best option, not by a long shot as you'll probably have to take numerous hours of remedial courses to catch up, but it's not the end of the world either.

Though.. If I was faced with the choice of choosing between a GED and a Diploma I'd take the Diploma. However, I wouldn't do time in a program to get it.

[Anonymous]

By the way, Che is correct, running away isn't a crime, but thats not the end of it is it? Right?  Individuals have 10 years AFTER you turn 18 to charge you.  It's called statute of limitations and WILL result in jail, Maybe your smart enough to know I'm not bullshitting you./quote]

Uh, no, that's pretty much entirely bullshit and retarded fearmongering. After you're 18 nobody is going to care, unless you committed, well, actual crimes. And CG has no fucking clue who you are (or anything else really)

This is just flat fearmongering.

CG, if by some horror you actually are a parent I hope you never see your kid again except perhaps from the wrong end of a .357. You are simply not fit.

[Anonymous]

What are the reasons Anya's parents want to send her to a  program (Gulag to be correct on this website)?  There are always two sides to a story.

[Anonymous]

There are always two sides to a story.

And one of those sides is lying.

Fuck off, Whooter. It's meaningless. You can waste the rest of your life here and accomplish exactly the same as you always have: nothing.

[Anonymous]

BTW I listened to Judas Priest, grew up in a major gang infested city, had many of my friends killed by Latin Kings, Simon City Royals, Disciples, Spanish Cobra's, OA's, Jousters.......the point is only the weak minded sissy assholes (outside of jail - jail is survival mode, I get this) get caught up in this shit.  I love it more when they turn on each other too, makes for great headlines, and one less piece of shit in the world.  

I grew up right in the middle of it and I never joined a gang, sold drugs or committed crimes.  In my neighborhood, if you did this crap, you didn't last long.  Some old school guy just beat you senseless.  And if you didn't learn to shut your mouth and act respectfully or responsibly, then they just suicided you.  Yea, it a fact, there are people out there Anya that will kill you for a quarter or less.  If you think it's bad where your at, come live in my town.


CG

LOL...."yo! i listened to judas priest! i got mad street cred, yo! i'm hard, cuz i listen to gay biker metal!" i havnt laughed so hard in months. By the fact that you associate Judas priest with street gangs, shows you dont know jack shit and hold some very unusual stereotypes. Let me guess, Slayer fans are necrophiliac satanists, if you listen to marylin manson you will shoot up your school, and anyone who likes 50-cent is a crack dealer?! I and i forgot....ozzy it's satan's right-hand man, John lennon was a selfish brat when he wrote "imagine", and god made the dinosaurs - who lived side-by-side with people during biblical times....right?

btw, the northwest of chicago is disneyland compared to half of the NY area...south bronx, east new york, jamaica queens, bed-stuy, queensbridge, mt vernon, camden NJ, newark NJ, jersey city NJ......even danbury CT is more hardcore than northwest chicago....the midwest is timid as hell, they got nothing on either coasts.

and people dont get killed for under a quarter anymore. it's not the crack era anymore, buddy. people are alot of tactful now. but, telling someone that since you listened to judas priest you are a hardcore OG, will get you killed.....via being forced to choke on feces.

[Anonymous]

lol you listened to Judas priest.....the ultimate gay band, with songs like turbo lover and painkiller that defined homosexual fashion trends for years to come.  

we now have bands like cephalic carnage, cattle decapitation, behemoth, electric wizard, high on fire....etc.....that would scare the living bejeezzus out of rob halford himself.

[Curious George]

Guest,

Yea and they are still ALL fags.  What part of entertainment don't you understand?  

If you live your life according to your music maybe you'll end up just like Tupac.  Oh yea..I forgot..you think life is just like the movies and I'll bet money you are an american idol fan.  No substance, all form and packaging.  A human zero.

BTW .357 is for homos who dunno shit about lead delivery systems, just a longer .38.  Been to NYC too...not impressed and not much different than Chicago.  Try Bangkok if you got the nards.  By the way Ken, you are STILL a useless piece of shit and I just can't wait to see you again.

CG

[Anonymous]

Guest,

Yea and they are still ALL fags.  What part of entertainment don't you understand?  

If you live your life according to your music maybe you'll end up just like Tupac.  Oh yea..I forgot..you think life is just like the movies and I'll bet money you are an american idol fan.  No substance, all form and packaging.  A human zero.

BTW .357 is for homos who dunno shit about lead delivery systems, just a longer .38.  Been to NYC too...not impressed and not much different than Chicago.  Try Bangkok if you got the nards.  By the way Ken, you are STILL a useless piece of shit and I just can't wait to see you again.

CG

delusional are we? who's ken and what do gun calibers have to do with this thread? btw i can go all day out-hardcoring and out-OGing your examples. fact remains that chicago is a small, safe, pussy city in comparison most of the rest of the world, that's still stuck in 1930's segregation mode. It's all either wonderbread or dark chocolate with an occasional burrito, no diversity to speak of, and therefore not as dynamic and unpredictable. therefore pussy. always has been always will be. period.  


I would think you....the one who used judas priest as an example of hardcoreness would be the one who is living your life according to your music.


Since you cant read between the lines, i'll do it for you:
 

Let me guess, Slayer fans are necrophiliac satanists, if you listen to marylin manson you will shoot up your school, and anyone who likes 50-cent is a crack dealer?! I and i forgot....ozzy it's satan's right-hand man, John lennon was a selfish brat when he wrote "imagine", and god made the dinosaurs - who lived side-by-side with people during biblical times....right

This is accusing you of being someone who takes music and other superficial things with more than a grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anya,

I know you.  I've met you.  I recognize the name you are using.  I'm wishing you luck and I hope you stay safe, but you need to know this is going to land you in more trouble, possibly even jail.  You remember what it was like when you were locked up don't you.  You came out of your skin.  Parents can't protect you from this, if this is your choice.  So choose well and you will have to live with your decisions.

Don't forget that your parents still love you.  You may think they are shits or don't know shit but they have been there for you and were kids once too, and we still remember what it's like to be a kid, that's why we do the things we do.

Remember that little story in the bible when God creates man and woman?  What's the first thing God told them......DON'T!!!!!  (it doesn't matter if you believe in God or not)

Why did He tell them DON't?  Because he loved them with all His heart and didn't want them to feel pain and suffering that HE knew existed and couldn't bear to see them hurt.  You are to young to truly be abused.  Your parents weren't the abusers here, but the people you will hook up with will abuse you in ways you may never recover from.

Please try to stay away from the people that will use you and don't do the drugs.  They will kill you.  If you choose to stay away, remember, you'll be running for the rest of your life, you can't escape the things you did forever, they will eventually catch up to you.  The more you run, the more wrong things you do, the bigger the price you will pay.  That isn't a threat, that is what they will take from you.   Any you do KNOW who they are, don't you.

Do you remember...."the only way to live your life is to manipulate....and then you will get what you want".   Sometimes it's better not to get what you want and have things just handed to you.  I'd rather see you earn it.

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God.  It is s history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and for my own part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything  that is cruel"..Thomas Paine

"The Bible.  That is what fools have written, what imbeciles command, what rogues teach and young children are made to learn by heart"...Voltaire

"You believe in a book which has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive storeis; and you say that I am the one who is mentally ill?" - Dan Barker



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[Anonymous]

Guest,
If you are going to quote someone in your post, please use the quote feature properly.
Curious George does say a lot of stupid and contradictory things, but you can’t get whatever point you were trying to make across if one cannot differentiate between your words and CG’s

[Curious George]

Guest,

Superficial was exactly my point.  Substance over form genius.

All the new shit is the same old shit in a new wrapper.  You'd buy a pet rock if it was labeled the "new" pet rock.  You listened to this you listen to that...so what, you are oh so cool for listening to your brand of music, how infantile!!!!!

As far as locale, East coast West Coast, Midwest, same same blah blah blah.  Been there, nothing new here, you are comparing apples to apples.  You've obviously never been to a 3rd world country.  Ask Che is this place compares to getting run over with a tank.

Gun calibers has to do with the jag-bag that said I needed one in my face.  Last time that happened, it didn't turn out so well for the other party.  You are welcome to try though, again, won't be the first time.

You sure can tell ignorance and inexperience...young and dumb.   Age and experience will always overcome youth and exhuberance.  I learned THAT when I was a teen.  I've met some pretty intelligent motivated and honorable young people...guess what, you aint it, but that doesn't mean you can't be someday.  When that happens you will have the respect you think now you're entitled to.

For the other simple minded assholes, breaking your spirit was never a factor.  I admire spirit, especially ones that can't be broken.  But use it for the good not to hurt the innocent.  Someone with a concealed carry permit will make sure you have a very bad day.  Over 40 states now have it, so keep rolling the dice.

Hell, many you can even get a great job with the spirit and drive some of you are demonstrating....become military....you get to blow shit up and kill bad guys for a living.  Trying using all that spirit for some good instead of whining like spoon fed little sissies.

I'll leave you with a quote  "We think our fathers fools, so wise we grow, our wiser sons, no doubt, will think us so"

Guest, what do you stand for?  against?  Do you even know?

CG

[Anonymous]

Guest, what do you stand for?  against?  Do you even know?

CG

Why don't you keep your focus and answer that. Whatever happened to your interest in CALO? Are you so busy with coming off like an internet badass that you've abandoned that?