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Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2009, 09:58:53 AM »
Nutritional facts for beef (I have used regular beef in the search since I'm not inclined to believe Darryl Williams's marketing, considering he's up for fraud)

Calories: 447 (22% of reccomended daily intake)

Calories from fat: 117

Total fat: 13g (20% of reccomended daily intake)

Saturated fat: 4g (21% of reccomended daily intake)


So not too bad so far (however this is provided you don't add anything as you cook or marinate the beef, as most people will) But then it gets interesting....

Cholesterol: 1069mg (356% of reccomended daily intake)..... notice he doesn't mention low in cholesterol.

Sodium: 176mg (7% of reccomended daily intake) so really his beef being "low in sodium" is not really a deviation from any other beef..... until people coat it in salt.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/beef-products/3477/2

But because Darryl's "special" beef has the seal of approval, now there's probably been people out there with heart conditions who think "well I usually can't eat beef.... but this one must be okay!" Wonder if he's caused a heart attack yet.

He has now screwed over farmers, teenaged girls, and people trying to maintain a healthy heart.
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Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2009, 11:43:21 AM »
Are you vegetarian?
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spiking the cows' feed with selenium
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2009, 12:43:51 PM »
Quote from: "itsastart"
Somehow, Darryl managed to get the Heart and Stroke Society to give his beef a healthy seal of approval-according to some study which showed high omega 3's or something. Wonder how embarassed they are. I wonder where the hell he had that study done. ::)
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This makes the meat low in sodium, low in fat, free of trans fats, high in omega-3 fatty acids and high in selenium, said Williams.
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But because Darryl's "special" beef has the seal of approval, now there's probably been people out there with heart conditions who think "well I usually can't eat beef.... but this one must be okay!" Wonder if he's caused a heart attack yet.
Williams had the farmers spike the cows' feed with selenium (not unheard of, in veterinary circles). There is a rumor that adequate selenium in the diet is supposed to be healthy for your heart. It has also been indicated, in some (controversial) studies, as having some tumor suppressive effects.

While an essential trace element in the diet, too much selenium can be quite toxic. I have no idea how much these cows got, but I doubt that was translated into too high levels in the meat itself (since humans rarely live on steak alone, although I could be wrong). As for how this supplementation affected the cows themselves, that might be another matter...

As far as I can tell, unless there is data supporting an unusual dearth of selenium in Ontario soils, noting the addition of selenium to these cows' diets is nothing more than yet another marketing gimmick (presuming it wasn't overdone).
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More marketing hoopla: beef that's "trans fat free"
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2009, 02:41:55 PM »
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This makes the meat ... free of trans fats, ... said Williams.
Incidentally trans fats do not ordinarily occur in nature, except in the case of ruminants:

    A type of trans fat occurs naturally in the milk and body fat of ruminants (such as cattle and sheep) at a level of 2–5% of total fat.[27] Natural trans fats, which include conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) and vaccenic acid, originate in the rumen of these animals. However, CLA is also a cis fat.[/list]

    It would appear that the meat from all cows contains (trace amounts of) trans fat as a result of the obligatory microbial environment inherent to ruminant digestive processing.

    International labeling regulations and intake recommendations of trans fats vary according to country (even city, in some cases), and are currently in a state of flux as scientists scramble to gather more data. As far as I know, Canada allows products with less than 0.2 grams of trans fat per serving to be labeled as free of trans fats. Naturally occurring trans fats from animal sources (considered by some to be less harmful than artificially produced trans fat) are included in that trans fat assessment. The United States is even less stringent: "trans fat levels of less than 0.5 grams per serving can be listed as 0 grams trans fat on the food label."

    According to the nutritional facts for beef cited by the afore posted link, a serving size of 100 gm (supplying 25.1 gm protein, or 50% DV) contains 4.2 gm total fat. Even assuming the highest percentage of naturally occurring trans fat, namely 5%, this results in ... 0.21 gm trans fat per serving. Hence, all beef in Canada, not to mention the United States, can be labeled as free of trans fat, not just the "special beef" from Grey-Bruce Beef Marketing Ltd.!

    Incidentally, I wouldn't be surprised if the above facts and figures strongly affected how Health Canada derived their labeling restrictions. Gotta keep Agri-Binnis happy.
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #19 on: August 15, 2009, 03:25:06 PM »
    If I were a current or potential Rocklyn Academy parent, I'd certainly question the verity of their marketing claims, namely the "positive social and personal growth environment" Rocklyn allegedly gives these young women.

    Incidentally, why aren't staff noted on Rocklyn's site? Red flag right there, that's for sure. My guess would be that either the turnover is so high that they can't keep updating their website, or staff background and credentials may be so iffy they don't want those revealed.
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #20 on: August 15, 2009, 04:17:36 PM »
    They have removed the staff list as well as the ramp program consequences-just a few weeks ago. It looks like admissions inquiries now go to Anne Kossatz who is Darryl Williams' wife, and has a marketing background ::)

    The staff turnover is very high-local women to do the supervisionin the house. Never any qualifications listed. In my experience they were poorly educated, untrained, sometimes very nasty, sometimes well meaning but so lacking in any training that they put the girls and themselves at risk. Anyone with any real training would be appalled, as the place has no real therapeutic value at all.

    The teachers are mostly nice people..with no qualifications or teacher training. No certified teachersAgain, my experience was that the academic quality was very poor.

    The therapists..seem to change alot. The one i had experience with was clueless. The main guy, Mark Pratt is a very nice person, but surely he understands what they are doing is wrong. Surely he understands that Darryl was not a dr?? How can he pretend that being at that place is in any girls best interest.

    The owners, Dale Stohn and Bob Shaw seem to stay in the background. Dale is a nasty piece of work and shows nothing but disdain for the girls, except the few she makes her favourites. She is supposed to be a psychotherapist, but from what school who knows. She runs a breast thermography clinic on the side now. They fees range up  to 60,ooo$ a yr-they vary according to the yer or inmate. But the fees they charge on top-every time you call home they bill your parents claiming a therapist must monitor the call.

    Parents should run. I know its sometimes desperate when there are so few resources out there, and they take advantage of that. Honestly your kid is better in a psych ward if needed with real doctors, real therapists and human rights. Even they allow phone calls home every day, and visitors and don't monitor your calls, or make you clean dirty toilets or deny proper medical care.
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #21 on: August 15, 2009, 04:43:02 PM »
    I wonder if Lon Woodbury will mention Darryl's arrest in his "breaking News" updates..lol. Seeing as he recommended the place and all.
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #22 on: August 15, 2009, 06:51:13 PM »
    If any of the former Rocklyn students or parents wanted to make a complaint now would be a good time to do it. Potentially mentioning Darryl. Hopefully the complaints will be taken particularly seriouslly now with Darryl's name attached.

    There's the fraud division of the police,the better business bureau, the department of education (for the afore mentioned unqualified teachers), and the medical board (for unsatisfactory therapy)
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #23 on: August 15, 2009, 07:02:23 PM »
    I agree time is of the essence. Call while the investigation is underway and they are interested. The best bet is to contact police-either the RCMP as complaints have apprently been recently lodged, or with the OPP detachment mentioned above as they are doing the fraud investigation related to  Darryl williams.

    Private schools don't have to use certified teachers, though most parents dont realize this, and Rocklyn does not mention what the staff qualifications are. Or lack therof. :-  It might be worth calling Childrens Aid (CAS) for Grey Bruce. If Darryl provided medical advice or care of any kind the police and the College of Surgeons for Ontario should be contacted.

    These guys manage to fly under the radar-and there are no regulating bodies for these types of schools in Ontario. Parents beware.
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #24 on: August 15, 2009, 07:13:05 PM »
    Children's Aid would be paticularly good because they HAVE to investigate every complaint. I wonder what would happen if Rocklyn received an unscheduled visit from some people looking into propper treatment of children....
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #25 on: August 15, 2009, 07:28:55 PM »
    A girl who has just returned from Rocklyn posted on the new info thread, and mentions her parents have contacted the RCMP.
    viewtopic.php?f=14&t=22400
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #26 on: August 18, 2009, 03:47:16 PM »
    Rocklyn is not on the ISAC (International Survivors in Action Corporation) website!

    http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp
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    Re: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams
    « Reply #27 on: August 18, 2009, 08:13:00 PM »
    Quote from: "itsastart"
    Interesting Ursus-thats my understanding too. He is not a vet or a dr. I contacted the governing bodies for those professions. He is not, never was-though the kids and parents were led to believe he was a dr. He apparently has a PHd in medical sciences from Florida(who really knows-not like anything he says pans out), not even close to an MD.

    Darryl Williams graduated from the University of Guelph in 1975. There are some interesting claims made on an alumni-focused page on UG's website:

      Darryl Williams, B.Sc.(Agr.) '75, lives near Markdale, Ont., where he started Grey-Bruce Beef Marketing Ltd. in 2006. After graduating from U of G, he earned an MBA at the University of California, Davis, and a D.Sc. in medicine at the University of Florida. He taught anatomy and physio at a medical school and worked in France, Mexico and the United States before returning to Canada.[/list]
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      ISAC Watch List
      « Reply #28 on: August 19, 2009, 03:25:37 PM »
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      Rocklyn is not on the ISAC (International Survivors in Action Corporation) website!
      http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp

      It appears that it is:

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      Rocklyn Academy - Canada - Info Coming Soon!

      However, that is not an active link yet. You folks better get cracking and send them your testimonies!

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      Re: ISAC Watch List
      « Reply #29 on: August 19, 2009, 04:14:59 PM »
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      Rocklyn is not on the ISAC (International Survivors in Action Corporation) website!
      http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp
      It appears that it is:

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      Rocklyn Academy - Canada - Info Coming Soon!

      However, that is not an active link yet. You folks better get cracking and send them your testimonies!

       :whip:

      Update:

      Apparently, ISAC has already received several very long and very detailed complaints about Rocklyn that came with a "don't make this public" request.

      True to the ideals of integrity and consideration for the victims of said abuses, when thus requested, ISAC subsequently ... does not make them public.

      However, in order for ISAC to be able to put documents detailing noted abuses at Rocklyn Academy on ISAC's website, they will need material that can be made public.

      Having your name withheld from what gets put on the website is not the same thing as "don't make this [entire document] public," so perhaps there has been some confusion involved in that interpretation.

      If you are one of those people who has submitted material to ISAC, and wish to have your material made public, just your name withheld, I strongly encourage you to re-contact ISAC to clarify your intentions.

      Here are some examples of material that would be useful: personal statements (could be from student/client, parent, relative, etc.); copies of police reports; copies of or links to pertinent published material, e.g., local news reports, etc.; copies of legal wranglings, e.g., depositions, lawsuits filed, etc.; physician statements or reports, mental health assessments or reports; and more that I can't think of off the top of my head at the moment.

      So, folks... if you want that place holder on ISAC's Watch List to become an active link, ya gotta give them some stuff to put there.
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