Author Topic: Rocklyn academy- "Dr" Darryl Williams (Read 18486 times)

Ursus · « **Reply #45 on:** August 28, 2009, 12:04:39 PM »

Quote from: "Guest"

His actual degree (providing he didn't lie on the Rocklyn staff page which is now gone) is a D.Sc. (Medicine)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Science
It's an academic research degree as stated in the link. There is no practical compnent and he is in no way at all qualified to practice medicine on humans or animals.It's the scientific equivilent of a PhD. It doesn't matter if your PhD is in psychology it's not a medical degree you can'tt prescribe antidepressants or practice any medicine. Since he appears so keen to study and practice medicine one has to wonder what prevented him from getting into medical school.

Here is what passes for Darryl Williams' "brief bio" from an archived Rocklyn staff page, from about a year and a half ago:

Darryl Williams
D.Sc. (Medicine), M.B.A. (Marketing)
Admissions Officer [/list]

To be fair, it doesn't appear as though he is misrepresented here, providing, of course, that he did actually earn those degrees. Rather, it appears that errors in the media reports have some other source, and/or may be simply self-perpetuated due to reporters' less than optimal fact checks.

I'm afraid that Rocklyn is not particularly forthcoming about the credentials and background of their staff, at least as far as this particular webpage is concerned. In fact, on said staff page, the only other person noted as having any degrees whatsoever (including those we already know to allegedly have them), is ... Darryl's wife, Anne Kossatz:

Ms. Anne Kossatz
M.Sc., MBA
Executive Director[/list]

I find that fact most curious. It would suggest, to me, at least, that one of those two probably had a fair amount to do with the creation of that webpage.

Ursus · « **Reply #46 on:** August 28, 2009, 07:58:42 PM »

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Darryl Williams
D.Sc. (Medicine), M.B.A. (Marketing)
Admissions Officer[/list]

Quote from: "Guest"

It's an academic research degree... There is no practical compnent and he is in no way at all qualified to practice medicine on humans or animals.It's the scientific equivilent of a PhD. It doesn't matter if your PhD is in psychology it's not a medical degree you can'tt prescribe antidepressants or practice any medicine.

Reiterated for emphasis.

Ursus · « **Reply #47 on:** August 30, 2009, 12:40:42 PM »

Back to some more recent news...

Catching up with a radio news snippet of about nine days ago:

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AM920 cknx Information Country
Grey Cattle Fraud Working Way Through Courts
Friday, August 21, 2009 11:52 am

One of the Grey County men charged in an alleged three quarters of a million dollar fraud against area cattlemen will be back in court next week.

57 year old Darryl Williams of Chatsworth Township remains in jail on the charges pending his bail hearing.

38 year old Mark Kuglin of Meaford is also charged in the case.

He's back in court in October.

Grey O-P-P say the company the two men ran defrauded a number of cattlemen in Grey, Bruce and Wellington Counties in 2008.

The fraud had to do with the failure to pay for beef and related feed products.

©2005 - 2009 CKNX Radio.

Anonymous · « **Reply #48 on:** August 30, 2009, 05:18:04 PM »

From what I understand, parents do not go on the premises....are you taking the words from a troubled teen who clearly has major issues and is OBVIOUSLY going to blame any and everyone. Perhaps the parents are to assume some responsibility? Perhaps you idiots should have done major investigating FIRST if you're really concerned about your childs' well-being....I certainly would have. It is to my knowledge that in fact the girls were given a diet that gets them off carbs?! Where do you get your information? How ignorant are you? I can see you're certainly uninformed and not well educated based on your disgusting comments and very poor english. Have you no life, have you nothing better to do?

Quote from: "itsastart"

They have removed the staff list as well as the ramp program consequences-just a few weeks ago. It looks like admissions inquiries now go to Anne Kossatz who is Darryl Williams' wife, and has a marketing background

The staff turnover is very high-local women to do the supervisionin the house. Never any qualifications listed. In my experience they were poorly educated, untrained, sometimes very nasty, sometimes well meaning but so lacking in any training that they put the girls and themselves at risk. Anyone with any real training would be appalled, as the place has no real therapeutic value at all.

The teachers are mostly nice people..with no qualifications or teacher training. No certified teachersAgain, my experience was that the academic quality was very poor.

The therapists..seem to change alot. The one i had experience with was clueless. The main guy, Mark Pratt is a very nice person, but surely he understands what they are doing is wrong. Surely he understands that Darryl was not a dr?? How can he pretend that being at that place is in any girls best interest.

The owners, Dale Stohn and Bob Shaw seem to stay in the background. Dale is a nasty piece of work and shows nothing but disdain for the girls, except the few she makes her favourites. She is supposed to be a psychotherapist, but from what school who knows. She runs a breast thermography clinic on the side now. They fees range up to 60,ooo$ a yr-they vary according to the yer or inmate. But the fees they charge on top-every time you call home they bill your parents claiming a therapist must monitor the call.

Parents should run. I know its sometimes desperate when there are so few resources out there, and they take advantage of that. Honestly your kid is better in a psych ward if needed with real doctors, real therapists and human rights. Even they allow phone calls home every day, and visitors and don't monitor your calls, or make you clean dirty toilets or deny proper medical care.

Ursus · « **Reply #49 on:** August 30, 2009, 06:38:16 PM »

Quote from: "Nebula000"

From what I understand, parents do not go on the premises....are you taking the words from a troubled teen who clearly has major issues and is OBVIOUSLY going to blame any and everyone. Perhaps the parents are to assume some responsibility? Perhaps you idiots should have done major investigating FIRST if you're really concerned about your childs' well-being....I certainly would have. It is to my knowledge that in fact the girls were given a diet that gets them off carbs?! Where do you get your information? How ignorant are you? I can see you're certainly uninformed and not well educated based on your disgusting comments and very poor english. Have you no life, have you nothing better to do?

Hindsight is always 20/20, is it not? What exactly about this topic disturbs you so greatly ... that you feel compelled to comment disparagingly on folks' grammar and points of concern, rather than on Rocklyn Academy or Darryl Williams' latest escapade itself?

Are you saying that troubled teens always lie? Are you saying that bringing up a child through the course of her lifetime ... is not enough experience for a parent to know the difference between a grumble, and an expression of bonafide distress?

Anonymous · « **Reply #50 on:** August 30, 2009, 08:02:36 PM »

Quote from: "Nebula000"

From what I understand, parents do not go on the premises....are you taking the words from a troubled teen who clearly has major issues and is OBVIOUSLY going to blame any and everyone. Perhaps the parents are to assume some responsibility? Perhaps you idiots should have done major investigating FIRST if you're really concerned about your childs' well-being....I certainly would have. It is to my knowledge that in fact the girls were given a diet that gets them off carbs?! Where do you get your information? How ignorant are you? I can see you're certainly uninformed and not well educated based on your disgusting comments and very poor english. Have you no life, have you nothing better to do?

Quote from: "itsastart"
They have removed the staff list as well as the ramp program consequences-just a few weeks ago. It looks like admissions inquiries now go to Anne Kossatz who is Darryl Williams' wife, and has a marketing background

The staff turnover is very high-local women to do the supervisionin the house. Never any qualifications listed. In my experience they were poorly educated, untrained, sometimes very nasty, sometimes well meaning but so lacking in any training that they put the girls and themselves at risk. Anyone with any real training would be appalled, as the place has no real therapeutic value at all.

The teachers are mostly nice people..with no qualifications or teacher training. No certified teachersAgain, my experience was that the academic quality was very poor.

The therapists..seem to change alot. The one i had experience with was clueless. The main guy, Mark Pratt is a very nice person, but surely he understands what they are doing is wrong. Surely he understands that Darryl was not a dr?? How can he pretend that being at that place is in any girls best interest.

The owners, Dale Stohn and Bob Shaw seem to stay in the background. Dale is a nasty piece of work and shows nothing but disdain for the girls, except the few she makes her favourites. She is supposed to be a psychotherapist, but from what school who knows. She runs a breast thermography clinic on the side now. They fees range up to 60,ooo$ a yr-they vary according to the yer or inmate. But the fees they charge on top-every time you call home they bill your parents claiming a therapist must monitor the call.

Parents should run. I know its sometimes desperate when there are so few resources out there, and they take advantage of that. Honestly your kid is better in a psych ward if needed with real doctors, real therapists and human rights. Even they allow phone calls home every day, and visitors and don't monitor your calls, or make you clean dirty toilets or deny proper medical care.

Geeze, and your grammar is so impeccable.

First of all, yes were were complete idiots. We were desperate parents with a daughter in crisis and with a poorly funded system of mental health care. Rocklyn took advantage of us and Dr. Williams led us to believe our daughter was in a therapeutic environment with experienced staff and that he was a doctor. Other parents have had similar experiences as ours, and are pursuing legal action.

It was a horrible experience for my daughter and I will do my best to make other parents and medical professional aware of what our experiences were and advise them to take extreme caution in considering this option for their child. We were naive and frightened and they took advantage of that to screw us out of as much money as they could. Worse than the loss of money was the loss of time to getting actual treatment.

You seem to have some experience at Rocklyn. Maybe enlighten us on your experiences there. You are not concerned that a man with so much responsibility for the care of vulnerable teen girls is allegedly conducting fraudulent business or that so many girls are coming out of there with some serious complaints? Does it not concern you that girls are put into a punitive program that denies basic rights and they have never been sentenced by a court or advised of their rights? Sorry, the kids come first and a full investigation by police and child welfare authorities is needed.

Anonymous · « **Reply #51 on:** August 31, 2009, 12:56:39 AM »

Quote from: itsastart

"...I believe you have to have a clear criminal record to work with minors..."

Let's have the facts itsastart. What do you know?

Anonymous · « **Reply #52 on:** August 31, 2009, 08:11:48 AM »

Quote from: "visitor"

Quote from: "itsastart"

"...I believe you have to have a clear criminal record to work with minors..."

Let's have the facts itsastart. What do you know?

Good question. I will call some government organizations today and clarify what the legal position is on this. Since Rocklyn is ministry accredited it likely falls under the Ontario Education act linked below. Most ethical and responsible admininstrators would require a police check and OESC card of anyone who works for the school, including drivers etc. Usually it is part of the Ministry inspection process and since Rockyn is Ministry accredited for academic credits, it would be inspected.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/e ... 0521_e.htm

Anonymous · « **Reply #53 on:** August 31, 2009, 01:45:35 PM »

itsastart: what you are inferring is that Williams has a criminal record, that Rocklyn didn’t do a check, and that the ministry hasn’t inspected.

So back to my original question, what exactly do you know?

Ursus · « **Reply #54 on:** August 31, 2009, 02:06:30 PM »

Quote from: "visitor"

itsastart: what you are inferring is that Williams has a criminal record, that Rocklyn didn’t do a check, and that the ministry hasn’t inspected.

So back to my original question, what exactly do you know?

Sounds to me like visitor is inferring quite a bit, not itsastart.

I could well be wrong, but my impression from itsastart's post was that it implied that Darryl Williams might be getting a criminal record in the future, given the failure of his bovine enterprise, and the financial fallout farmers and possibly other businesses in the community have suffered as a direct consequence of Grey-Bruce Beef Marketing Ltd.'s failure to pay its bills. And that this may subsequently interfere with any career aspirations he may harbor with regard to continuing to work with minors, as he has been doing, for a number of years, whilst employed at Rocklyn Academy.

The criminal allegations with regard to Grey-Bruce Marketing Ltd.'s endeavors have all been detailed quite copiously in numerous news articles earlier in this thread, including a copy and link to the police news release detailing his arrest on August 12, 2009.

The question of whether or not Williams already has a criminal record, whether or not Rocklyn did do a check, and whether or not the ministry has inspected ... is another kettle of fish entirely. But certainly one worth checking... Thanks for bringing it up!

Ursus · « **Reply #55 on:** August 31, 2009, 03:30:46 PM »

Here is a copy of that police news release in case you missed it:

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GREY COUNTY MEDIA RELEASES

INTERIM DETACHMENT COMMANDER:
INSP. JOHN PERIVERSOFF

Tel: (519) 794-7827 Fax: (519) 794-3966

CALL 1-888-310-1122 FOR POLICE

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FROM/DE: Grey County O.P.P. / DATE: 12-Aug-09

Marketing Firm Investigated
Fraud Charges Laid
RM09009379

(Chatsworth, ON.) – Grey County OPP has laid criminal charges following an investigation into the activities of a local marketing firm.

The investigation began in January, 2009 when a complaint was received alleging that a group of farmers had not been paid for product sold to abattoirs through a Grey County based marketing firm known as Grey Bruce Beef Marketing Ltd. and associated company All County Feed and Grains.

After a lengthy investigation by the Grey County OPP Crime Unit two men listed as officers with the incorporated company have been charged with multiple counts of fraud. The frauds are alleged to have taken place during 2008 and involved failure to pay for beef and or related feed products with victims, mostly beef producers, identified in the counties of Grey, Bruce, and Wellington. A feed supply company in Waterloo Region is also listed as a victim. The total amount of the 13 alleged frauds is in excess of $750,000.00.

Mark Kuglin (38) of Meaford was arrested and released on the 6th of August with an undertaking. He is scheduled to appear in the Ontario Court of Justice-Owen Sound on the 22nd of October, 2009.

This afternoon (12-Aug-09) Darryl Williams (57) of Chatsworth Township, the director of the companies, was arrested without incident and taken into custody. He is scheduled to appear for a bail hearing tomorrow in Owen Sound.

Both men are charged with 13 counts of the Criminal Code offence of Fraud over $5,000.00

The investigation is continuing and anyone with information that might assist in the investigation is asked to contact Grey County OPP or Crime Stoppers.

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Contact:

OPP.GC.MediaRelations@ontario.ca

Anonymous · « **Reply #56 on:** August 31, 2009, 06:09:44 PM »

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It is to my knowledge that in fact the girls were given a diet that gets them off carbs?!

OFF CARBS? that is BULLSHIT
when i attended rocklyn, THE FOOD WAS ALL CARBS
they had about 10 different types of bread
soup
pasta

Che Gookin · « **Reply #57 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:17:33 AM »

Can someone give me a short explanation as to how some guy running a program is about to get himself cornholed in a Canadian pokey for some sort of wrong doings with meat packing?

Though.. the irony of a guy who is going to get his ass packed for criminal meat packing...

errr.. ignore that last line..

Anonymous · « **Reply #58 on:** September 01, 2009, 12:47:22 PM »

As far as I can tell he had a meat packing business aswell as working at Rocklyn. Then he collected the cows from the farmers, turned them into beef, sold the beef.... and didn't pay the farmers. Taking resources and not giving a service in exchange..... that sounds familiar.

Anonymous · « **Reply #59 on:** September 01, 2009, 01:23:13 PM »

Quote from: Ursus

Quote from: visitor
itsastart: what you are inferring is that Williams has a criminal record, that Rocklyn didn’t do a check, and that the ministry hasn’t inspected.

So back to my original question, what exactly do you know?
Sounds to me like visitor is inferring quite a bit, not itsastart.

I could well be wrong, but my impression from itsastart's post was that it implied that Darryl Williams might be getting a criminal record in the future, given the failure of his bovine enterprise, and the financial fallout farmers and possibly other businesses in the community have suffered as a direct consequence of Grey-Bruce Beef Marketing Ltd.'s failure to pay its bills. And that this may subsequently interfere with any career aspirations he may harbor with regard to continuing to work with minors, as he has been doing, for a number of years, whilst employed at Rocklyn Academy.

The criminal allegations with regard to Grey-Bruce Marketing Ltd.'s endeavors have all been detailed quite copiously in numerous news articles earlier in this thread, including a copy and link to the police news release detailing his arrest on August 12, 2009.

The question of whether or not Williams already has a criminal record, whether or not Rocklyn did do a check, and whether or not the ministry has inspected ... is another kettle of fish entirely. But certainly one worth checking... Thanks for bringing it up!

Ursus,

I just hope you never end up on a jury because I don’t believe you could be impartial drawing conclusions the way you do. The more you ramble and speculate the more life you give to the uncontrolled, unfounded and vicious abuse rampant throughout these threads.

It’s the conjecture and actions of this mindset, which brought about the injustices to the likes of the David Milgaard’s, Jean Paul Moran’s and the late Donald Marshall.

You’re certainly not contributing anything constructive here, and if you feel compelled or find it empowering to continue perpetrating through your un-moderated posts then please seek professional help.

I’m speculating that there have been hundreds, perhaps thousands, of successful Rocklyn graduates who completed the full program over the years. It’s a shame that there are none of them here providing balance to the voice of the few malcontents, but chances are they have a life.

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