I am talking about my life not my eye, anyone at all and any program at all should be shut down ,and was, for abusing children, and children should not be mixed in with with ex cons, druggies as you all call them, alcoholics, prostitutes heroin using abusers, that were court ordered by the courts, who you all kidding here, would you stick your kids in with that type, I sure shit would not. Art Barker should be shot and beheaded for the shit he thinks he got away with.If you compare an honest body count on who this experiment helped over who it did not help, the numbers would sky rocket towards the non helped souls , aa created a monster is all, that is where that bastard Art Barker got his sick ideas on how to open up a place and make money off of souls who were either court ordered or forced to be there, and aa is mostly court ordered as well. so not likely that any will maintain being clean, ( in other words I do not think that one drunk soul is worth harming any child over)however I am still clean after 49 years of my life, and not because some messed up soul had me in a cult. If money was not involved then known of these places would be opened, pretty sad that you would have to go through what I did to understand where I am coming from. I would not wish that on anyone, except the staff and the asshole who used the system to sponge off of others, FART BARKER himself. Plenty of hate outside those walls that are allowed to abuse children, to add more hate in this world is not needed. Experience the experience yourself, then speak out. Because at either end it is wrong to punish kids for doing nothing wrong. Art Barker, Libby,Shelly, John underwood, all you staff idiots, your time will come, and trust me pay back is a bitch. I should have opened my mouth years ago, about what went on in that place, horrible to have to even think about it now, to go through it physically was really a nightmare. A child' should be a child for as long as possible, they should never experience an adults nightmare and I was in their nightmare, they used me to get out of jail free is all.