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« Reply #180 on: July 16, 2009, 07:43:22 PM »
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But ASR hasn't "graduated" 1000 kids.  It's more like 100 or less.  They have a 65% drop out rate.  And of the kids that are left, only a few graduate.  A handful at most.  Please post the names of 1000 graduates to support your cause.

Greater than 95% of the students who start out at ASR finish the program.  4% end up being asked to leave for rules infractions or unsafe behavior and the other 1 % are pulled by their parents for various reason..ie. economic, social, other.

They house 90 students who graduate every 12-16 months.  So looking at roughly a snap shot of 12 years and taking the conservative number of 16 months for each student we see a total graduation population of 860 students.

Looking at a total loss of 3 students the success rate would be closer to 857/860 == 99.65%

If we were off by 100 students then that would bring the success rate to 757/760 == 99.60%

So even looking at the worst case scenario ASR is experienceing a better than 99% success rate.
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« Reply #181 on: July 16, 2009, 09:28:44 PM »
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Greater than 95% of the students who start out at ASR finish the program. 4% end up being asked to leave for rules infractions or unsafe behavior and the other 1 % are pulled by their parents for various reason..ie. economic, social, other.

Cite this for us please, otherwise your facts are meaningless.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #182 on: July 17, 2009, 08:37:48 AM »
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But ASR hasn't "graduated" 1000 kids.  It's more like 100 or less.  They have a 65% drop out rate.  And of the kids that are left, only a few graduate.  A handful at most.  Please post the names of 1000 graduates to support your cause.

Greater than 95% of the students who start out at ASR finish the program.  4% end up being asked to leave for rules infractions or unsafe behavior and the other 1 % are pulled by their parents for various reason..ie. economic, social, other.

They house 90 students who graduate every 12-16 months.  So looking at roughly a snap shot of 12 years and taking the conservative number of 16 months for each student we see a total graduation population of 860 students.

Looking at a total loss of 3 students the success rate would be closer to 857/860 == 99.65%

If we were off by 100 students then that would bring the success rate to 757/760 == 99.60%

So even looking at the worst case scenario ASR is experienceing a better than 99% success rate.

Ha, ha, ha.  This is funny.  BIG BOLD TYPE does not a substitute for facts and sources!

Let's start with 65% of kids who go to ASR are pulled out by their parents before completing the program, much less grasduating.  A 35% retention rate just doesn't add up to what your peddling here, so maybe you should try backpedaling again.

More realistic numbers are about 200-300 kids who completed the program, maybe 50% with a diploma, so that's down to 150 kids, max.  Out of that 150 at least 5 are dead, and 75% are back to their old ways.  your talking about a 5% "success rate" from enrollment to graduation.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #183 on: July 17, 2009, 09:21:55 AM »
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John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

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« Reply #184 on: July 17, 2009, 03:11:30 PM »
Hey does anyone have a current subscription to a criminal background check service?  If so, I'd like to run a query on "John David Reuben" from Mass. for an arrest record.  Please, if you can help me out, this will go a long way, I promise.  I believe he does have at least one arrest and would like to verify that.

Thanks!
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« Reply #185 on: July 17, 2009, 07:59:00 PM »
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Hey does anyone have a current subscription to a criminal background check service?  If so, I'd like to run a query on "John David Reuben" from Mass. for an arrest record.  Please, if you can help me out, this will go a long way, I promise.  I believe he does have at least one arrest and would like to verify that.

Thanks!

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« Reply #186 on: July 21, 2009, 05:42:11 PM »
It looks like a "disorderly conduct" arrest.  Anyone have any other info on what this guy did to get arrested for DC???
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #187 on: July 22, 2009, 12:18:21 PM »
Here's why TheWho is so interested in HLA and how he got RB's treatment information from HLA:

http://http://www.plaxo.com/directory/profile/214749268482/b8f0863f/Jeff/Holloway

TheWho IS John Reuben and John Reuben is deeply connected to HLA professionally as well as locking his kid up there.

Now, Who, please explain exactly how Holloway came to give you RB's privacy law-protected information.
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« Reply #188 on: July 23, 2009, 11:57:18 AM »
John, why do you send kids to places like HLA where your own child was prevented from visiting his dying mom and not allowed to go to the funeral either?  Why should anyone trust you?  Please explain yourself.
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« Reply #189 on: July 23, 2009, 06:22:32 PM »
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John, why do you send kids to places like HLA where your own child was prevented from visiting his dying mom and not allowed to go to the funeral either?  Why should anyone trust you?  Please explain yourself.

I would really like to hear this answer.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #190 on: July 23, 2009, 06:41:50 PM »
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John, why do you send kids to places like HLA where your own child was prevented from visiting his dying mom and not allowed to go to the funeral either?  Why should anyone trust you?  Please explain yourself.

I went back thru all the posts and I dont see where it says the kid wasnt allowed to go to his moms funeral.  This is so frustrating.  Can someone please provide a link?
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« Reply #191 on: July 23, 2009, 07:59:50 PM »
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John, why do you send kids to places like HLA where your own child was prevented from visiting his dying mom and not allowed to go to the funeral either?  Why should anyone trust you?  Please explain yourself.

I would really like to hear this answer.

It says it right here.  And many other places.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #192 on: July 23, 2009, 08:30:00 PM »
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John, why do you send kids to places like HLA where your own child was prevented from visiting his dying mom and not allowed to go to the funeral either?  Why should anyone trust you?  Please explain yourself.

I would really like to hear this answer.

It says it right here.  And many other places.

I did read that one.  But how do we know he wasnt allowed to attend the funeral?
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« Reply #193 on: July 23, 2009, 08:50:46 PM »
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John, why do you send kids to places like HLA where your own child was prevented from visiting his dying mom and not allowed to go to the funeral either?  Why should anyone trust you?  Please explain yourself.

I would really like to hear this answer.

It says it right here.  And many other places.

I did read that one.  But how do we know he wasnt allowed to attend the funeral?

Max went to the funeral, no need to worry.  They are just trying to make programs look bad.  Keep in mind you are on fornits.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #194 on: July 23, 2009, 08:59:22 PM »
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Max went to the funeral, no need to worry.  They are just trying to make programs look bad.  Keep in mind you are on fornits.

Ya know you people suck.  We know his kid probably went to the god dam funeral.  We were posting that to try to smoke out this Rueben guy and get him to respond here on fornits.  Why cant people just shut the fuck up and post in other threads.  We sent him emails letting him know about fornits so he is probly reading this shit right now.  Fuck, I cant believe you ruined it like that.  Are you retarded? Or what?
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