I do not think my brother is relentless at all I think he is hitting it right on the hammer.I wish all the parents that were still living, would stand up listen to what their children went through, as it has taken so much, and i swear to all it really messed me up, i just didn't let it take my soul, i know because of that place i have always been afraid don't know like something was going to happen at any moment and i just never knew when) , even though i put a wall up making me look like i can do anything, its amazing that after doing that place over 2 times before splitting, that i still looked up to my friend Mida Garcia i met at the seed,( Mida also ran from that place so many times, so many times before i even got there) not the staff not the idiots that ran it none of them, just one girl that was also being punished, yet she was in on a court order, i was not, goes to show you how bad brain washing is, a 13 year girl had to hold all her thoughts in for so long to stay sane, FUCK ALL who say do not use bad language that's all i heard for so long in that place. Little bit about Mida, they put me next to her to scare me, she was my soul keeper you idiots, she did not scare me one bit, she was a wonderful soul who watched out over me, but at same time could not let others know she was being true.When i say true, rather then someone spitting in you face and cursing and treating you like shit, she held my hand and squeezed it, and said when it gets so bad you just squeeze my hand till we both can no longer feel anything,yea that made me feel special all right, rather then like shit they put me through. She will never know what that met to me. In all way's she to this day is my angel, she helped me to survive that place, because without her i really do not know what i would have ended up like.( and mida was a bad girl hummm, least you all thought she was) My old comers both started over, goes to show you that that place was not at all working, so who are all you kidding, as far as libby, she is arts right hand and shellys and she so knew what she was doing, all knew just as any criminal knew what they were doing, for some reason i feel like that guest is libby, libby i tried calling to ask questions to, not to be mean nor rage, just wanted to ask why, why did all those kids have to suffer, she hung up, now if you say she really did not mean no harm, then why is she still harming by not talking to someone that was only 13 years old back them. ( I am 49 now )you talk about her being so great look at the puppies eyes and what the hec does anyone need to use those things around a dogs nose, i am all for animals so do not even test me with that shit,that's another form of control is all that is. Libby if that guest is you complaining about language, i advise you to get the balls i had to grow at thirteen, because what you are still doing by not responding shows how Guilty you are and always will be, no matter what scam you choose to participate in. I love the brunch too, I may just well be at that brunch that day so be prepared to answer questions that day, not you not anyone will even know who i am till the moment when you all think its time to stand miss libby up, and give her another free check, blood money, that was donated funded or just given to you to help some kid out, and instead goes to her life style , it is a crime to allow anyone to be kidnapped,( you allowed this) and to be forced to do things you certainly would not do if you had your free will, so by showing you do not except calls, and hiding from a 13 year old girl from the past that you ruined and took so much from back in the 70's when i should have been in school, and with my friends, not court appointed druggies as you all were clearly and still are, i am so sure you art and shelly are on some medication, something i truthfully do not believe in is drugs of any kind, not the ones the doctors get you messed up on and not the ones you shot in your arms, you did what kind of drugs, and how many kids did you affect, how many did go back, or better yet started to learn and do drugs because of the crap you all put them through?

As far as art, my mother would never have put us in there if she knew he was a drunk/ comedian, why because my dad was a drunk and my mothers father was a drunk, so who you kidding i do not see a drunk/ comedian in any way responsible enough to look over or teach any kid, not even one, he had no business near anyone's kids, neither did a drug user like yourself, ever hear of relapses, well you can not say you never had one, you are no different then the rapest who said he did not know that the girl was 13, idiots all you are, its amazing you live and have the balls to even live in ft, lauderdale. Guess you will now feel like me, you can now sit and wonder and be afraid like i was, i live not far from you, you were asked to talk to me, i have a right to know why, why did you look into those crying tearful faces and laugh when someone was telling you the truth, that they never did drugs?

easy question i think, so tell world why, and if you don't then Guilty as i said in the beginning. Peace to all that had to go through that crap back then, i was a victim and i am going to see what rights i have to bring this to a courts attention, too many places are still involved with the same ways to only mentally harm someones soul. I am asking anyone at all to contact me and say anything you wish about this situation, as i have not been able to really talk to anyone about it, and when my brother who i am sure that told me about this sight knows i have covered up and went on in life, i can only say it has helped getting some of this off my mind, as it really is painful, i have a grandson, and i so will make sure he never steps foot like my daughter into a place of hell like that, i will teach him love honesty and to love self first in life, i do not need ever to have a drunk / comedian/ nor druggie to ever help out my family, I wish that all parents would step up and tell their kids whether they knew that art barker was a criminal or not, because if they knew that their kids were involved in such torture then they too were a part of a piss ass operation to mooch off of inocent children, i say children because that's is what i was a child, how very sad, that anyone went through this at any age. Peace.