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libby and her
« on: June 17, 2009, 08:59:55 AM »
look at this. libby needs you to be a captain -- bring 8-9 people who are willing to give her more handouts.

fucking cunt.

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Re: libby and her
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2009, 09:08:06 AM »
And too this day she scams to make others do her work, wow, that soul needs to be stopped and stopped fast.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2009, 06:10:41 PM »
I think it is unjust that you so aggresively blame her for something that occured many years ago, during a time and place when she also was a victim of the group. Regardless of your issues with the program and I'm sure they are legitimate, it is obvious that she was neither the founder nor the main decision-maker. In the long run, she stood up to them when she recognized that things were out of control regardless of her own human flaws, to which she is entitled as all of us. It is also clear that she dedicates valuable time and energy to helping this world be a better place in her current choices, and that is a puposeful decision who only few people in our world make.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2009, 11:32:33 PM »
guest --

libby is directly, and indirectly responsible for murder, suicide, rape, mental, physical, and psychological destruction -- of children.

so, basically what you are saying -- if your neighbor raped your kid, and hundreds - NO thousands of them, and they stopped doing it, and never faced criminal responsibility for it, you wouldn't mind them being your neighbor again -- so long as they were raising a puppy, and giving it away after a year or so.

that is precisely your argument -- and extremely flawed.

yes, i blame her.

here is another analogy of your argument.

i didn't kill any jews in germany - i just joined the army and obeyed orders and i made sure the jews got loaded on the trains that took them to auschwitz.

i didn't kill any jews. i just drove them to the fields where the mass graves were dug.

i didn't kill any jews, i just dug the mass graves.

i didn't kill any jews, i just beat them, and ordered them into the gas chambers.

i didn't kill any jews, i just raped their wives, and forced their children into slave camps.

i didn't kill any jews, i just starved them, and worked them to near death. its not my fault they died as a result.

libby is responsible for dead people. you fail to see that.

debbie del bueno -- staff member. dead of drug overdose, immediately after leaving the program.

everybody i know that left that place was WAY worse off for several years.

ALL of them that i know have no trust in human beings.

my sister has a 7the grade education, where she refused to return to school out of fear they would tie her up again, and drag her back to that hell hole.

my very young sister was told that if she didn't follow the seed example, she would be next. and she was only 8. and why would she NOT believe them, when her 9 year old cousin was dragged to that gulag?

my 8 year old sister made hundreds and hundreds of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches - in shear fear.

fuck you guest. don't respond to my posts. you are a brainwashed fool. and i don't want to hear your words of ignorance.

its people like YOU - that keep this world in the mess its in.

fuck you.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2009, 11:36:35 PM »
i think it is unjust that hitler is still held accountable for all the crimes he committed.

especially since he (supposeedly) committed suicide. and that is an obvious sign that he is sorry for what he did.

we should stop blaming him, afterall -- it was many years ago.

there's your argument guest. as flawed as it is.

that is what you are saying.

and yes, i compare old fart barker and libby to hitler.

because if they could have achieved their "dream" of a seed city, a seed in every city. they would have gone on and on, and still exist today, causing untold grief, death, murder, suicide, and pain not comparable to anything but hitler.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2009, 11:49:04 PM »
Sad to hear that all of your arguments begin and end with fu.  I must have been misinformed that most legitimate law schools trained lawyers in more effective rhetorical techniques>>>my misunderstanding and apologies . . .i cannot argue in discourse as "advanced"  as yours. You must have refined your skills outside the group. And i will freely choose when and where I decide to give my opinion , not the Seed, you, nor anyone can take that away.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009, 12:10:46 AM »
i thought you would recognize the "seed" language in my speech.

chosen here - as a 14 year old kid never heard that kind of talk until i heard it from that place.

fuck
cunt
liar
whore
thief
criminal
prostitute

are all words used by the seed - aimed at my 13 and 16 year old sisters. forced to lie and say they did drugs. started over and stood before that hellish group and railed for hours.

the last person they called on was me.

all the waving hands that wanted a shot at a 13 and 16 year old girl fell and the "awe" of the crowd fell too silence.

i stood and said fuck you to them all.

my sister remembers that to this day. and has told me many times she was proud of me.

i remember the puddle of tears on the floor before both of those extremely frightened girls.

who showed up the next day with butchered haircuts, red faces from endless crying all night, and obviously no sleep. silent and in obvious shock.

if i had a gun -- with endless bullets, i would have murdered everyone on that place that day. barring NONE but my sisters.

that was the first time i ever used those words. first time i ever had those thoughts.

you don't like hearing my choice words here.

don't respond.

i see my sister susan finally let this stuff out - finally purging, and after 36 years its about time.

so fuck u 2.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 12:20:03 AM »
My only point is that you should no better by now to not hold your resentments against someone who had been through the program just like your sisters and my bet is has come to see things quite differently by now. If you choose not to understand that then there is nothing left to say .  You are obviously at free will to choose to see it differently as i reserve the right to my own perspective.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 12:35:59 AM »
yes, guess. i agree you have the right to your own views.

as i mine.

my over the top attitude the past couple of days is intentional.

and as you stated my sisters may feel different.

susan is my sister. did you read her postings?

she never discussed this ever for 36 years.

she has a 7th grade education, ran away from home, and never attended school again for fear they would find her.

she married, and divorced ex-chief of police for 2 so. fla. police departments.

now lives happily in coconut grove with a flourishing business.

i have been in contact over the years with many ex-victims.

NONE have ever completely healed.

how can they.

if you know anything about brain growth function, their brains were still developing at that age -- 9 - 18. and some even beyond.

that is why the supreme court finally stopped executing minors.

if you don't like my approach. fine.

i will be relentless until all this is finally resolved.

amazing how far an apology could go.

but clearly libby, old fart barker, underwood and the rest have no remorse.

and that is probably the biggest of their crimes.

if you haven't noticed. libby is still up to her old tricks.

eating free meals at somebody elses' expense. raising "funds" for a pat on the back from a community not aware of her criminal past.

and yes, it is a criminal past.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2009, 08:54:04 AM »
I do not think  my brother is relentless at all I think he is hitting it right on the hammer.I wish all the parents that were still living, would stand up listen to what their children went through, as it has taken so much, and i swear to all it really messed me up, i just didn't let it take my soul, i know because of that place i have always been afraid don't know like something was going to happen at any moment and i  just never knew when) , even though i put a wall up  making me look like i can do anything, its amazing that after doing that place over 2 times before splitting, that i still looked up to my friend Mida Garcia i met at the seed,( Mida also ran from that place  so many times, so many times before i even got there) not the staff not the idiots that ran it  none of them, just one girl that was also being punished, yet she was in on a court order, i was not, goes to show you how bad brain washing is, a 13 year girl had to hold all her thoughts in for so long to stay sane, FUCK ALL  who say do not use bad language that's all i heard for so long in that place. Little bit about Mida, they put me next to her to scare me, she was my soul keeper you idiots, she did not scare me one bit, she was a  wonderful soul who watched out over me, but at same time could not let others know she was being true.When i say true, rather then someone spitting in you face and cursing  and treating you like shit, she held my hand and squeezed it, and said when it gets so bad you just squeeze my hand till we both can no longer feel anything,yea that made me feel special all right, rather then like shit they put me through. She will never know what that met to me. In all way's she to this day is my  angel, she helped me to survive that place, because without her i really do not know what i would have ended up like.( and mida was a bad girl hummm, least you all thought she was) My old comers both started over, goes to show you that that place was not at all working, so who are all you kidding, as far as libby, she is arts right hand and shellys and she so knew what she was doing, all knew just as any criminal knew what they were doing, for some reason i feel like that guest is libby, libby i tried calling to ask questions to, not to be mean nor rage, just wanted to ask why, why did all those kids have to suffer, she hung up, now if you say she  really did not mean no harm, then why is she still harming by not talking to someone that was only 13 years old   back them. ( I am 49 now )you talk about her being so great look at the puppies eyes and what the hec does anyone need to use those things around a dogs nose, i am all for animals so do not even test me with that shit,that's another form of control is all that is. Libby if that guest is you complaining about language, i advise you to get the balls i had to grow at thirteen, because what you are still doing by not responding shows how Guilty you are and always will be, no matter what scam you choose to participate in.  I love the  brunch too, I may just well be at that brunch that day so be prepared to answer questions that day, not you not anyone will even know who i am till the moment when you all think its time to stand miss libby up, and give her another free check, blood money, that was donated funded or just given to you to help some kid out, and instead goes  to her life style , it is a crime to allow anyone to be kidnapped,( you allowed this) and to be forced to do things you certainly would not do if you had your free will, so by showing you do not except calls, and hiding from a  13 year old girl from the past that you  ruined and took so much from back in the 70's when i should have been in school, and with my friends, not court appointed druggies as you all were clearly and still are, i am so sure you art and shelly are on some medication, something i truthfully  do not believe in is drugs of any kind, not the ones the doctors get you messed up on and  not the ones you shot in your arms, you did what kind of drugs, and how many kids did you affect, how many did go back, or better yet started to learn and do drugs because of the crap you all put  them through???? As far as art, my mother would never have put us in there if she knew  he was a  drunk/ comedian, why because my dad  was a drunk and my mothers father was a drunk, so who you kidding  i do not see a drunk/ comedian in any way responsible enough to look over or teach any kid, not even one, he had no business near anyone's kids, neither did a drug user like yourself, ever hear of relapses, well you can not say you never had one, you are no different then the  rapest who said he did not know that the girl was 13, idiots all you are, its amazing you live and have the balls to even live in ft, lauderdale. Guess you will now feel like me, you can now sit and wonder and be afraid like i was, i live not far from you, you were asked to talk to me, i have a right to know why, why did you look into those crying tearful faces and laugh when someone was telling you the truth, that they never did drugs???? easy question i think, so tell world why, and if you don't then Guilty as i said in the beginning. Peace to all that had to go through that crap back then, i was a victim and i am going to see what rights i have to bring this to a courts attention, too many places are still involved with the same ways to only mentally harm someones soul. I am asking anyone at all to contact me and  say anything you wish about this situation, as i have not been able to really  talk to anyone about it, and when my brother who i am sure that told me about this sight knows i have covered up and went on in life, i can only say it has helped getting some of this off my mind, as it really is painful, i have a grandson, and i so will make sure he never steps foot like my daughter into a place of hell like that, i will teach him love honesty and to love self first in life, i do not need ever to have a drunk / comedian/ nor druggie to ever help out my family, I wish that all parents would step up and tell their kids  whether they knew that art barker was a criminal or not, because if they knew that their kids were involved in such torture then they too were a part of a piss ass operation to mooch off of inocent children, i say children because that's is what i was a child, how very sad, that anyone went through this at any age. Peace.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2009, 09:36:07 AM »
Hey Stack Jones - man up and put your home phone number & cell # & email address on this sight.  Or do you only pick on women in their late fifties.?
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2009, 12:39:06 PM »
i use my name.

you use guest, and tell me to put my phone number and address on this board.

and you say i only pick on women in their 50's?

yeah, my 2 sisters are in their 50's. the seed is still picking on them.

and my younger sister who was forced to make hundreds of peanut butter sandwiches as slave labor - that cunt libby made big profits off of the illegal labor of minors.

if i could locate barker, his phone, email and address, i would aim this at him.

but, she was located.

she is smug enough to put her info. online and think we forgot about her past.

art - on the other hand, is constantly looking over his shoulder.

so - "guest" at least use your name before you cast anything my way.

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you fucking brainwashed cunt.

just like patty hearst, who ended up understanding her kidnappers.

i "guest" you do to.

i never fell for it back then when i was 14. i don't now at 50.

and i know for a fact that many have called libby, and she's hung up each time.

so, they didn't give a shit back then, and they surely don't even more now that there isn't a 10th of a penny in it for them.

you fucking brainwashed cunt.
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Re: libby and her
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2009, 12:41:46 PM »
addendum.

i did leave my phone number and email address on her answering machine, several days ago.

actually, inquiring into my medical records, which they are obligated by law to provide.

as professional as they ever were -- i received no response.

is that enough info. for you ass licker 00 "guest."

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or do you prefer to talk about your favorite staff member, and your favorite rap, and your favorite rule.

how 'bout no boy girl relationships.

i bet you enjoyed that one - neh?
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