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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2009, 11:08:10 PM »
They seem to have her home..but are kind of enacting  WWASP at home?
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Well, things are going, if not as well as I'd like, they are at least going. Katie is back up to level three as of yesterday. She is still smoking unfortunately, but there isn't much I can do there.

Katie is starting to learn some of the harsh realities of economics in the real world. With her job, she needed bank accounts. Yep, she already bounced some. First she ordered some CD's online (at Amazon) and had it come from her savings - the first mistake. Then she didn't have enough to cover it, so had to deal with the bank charges, and then the vendor charges as well. Of course she didn't have that kind of money - so now her allowance goes to me until it is taken care of. I said that I would help her this once, and have also started doing a check on her accounts to make sure she is actually writing EVERYTHING down in her register - or she earns a Cat 2.

It is very frustrating as a parent to watch your children insist on making the same stupid mistakes, and not listening when we tell them how to avoid them.

 


It must be very frustrating to have such a miserable life, bitch. Thank god you have Katie to take it out on! Waaa Waaa. My kid isnt absolutely perfect at all times. Shes so BAD! Maybe if you hadnt paid professional torturers to drive Katie insane for 3 years, handling money wouldnt be  challenging for her. Yeah, she kind of missed picking up on those life skills on account 'a getin' tortured !
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2009, 11:17:46 PM »
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....the child's lack of bad behavior makes these parents decision all the more heinous

I can see why the posters here feel the way they do.  Katie is innocent in all of this!  Why didnt someone mention this earlier?  These kids are just randomly plucked out of society and sent to programs for no reason.  All these kids are victims of a cruel random occurance.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2009, 11:33:01 PM »
http://parents-of-a-troubled-teen.blogs ... stmas.html

Katie's apparently been removed after 3 YEARS at WWASP. I'd say Katie will be at high risk for suicide and death because of what was done to her over the next 5-10 years, possibly longer. She has a  probability of having lost vital abilities and talents permanently.

No, femanon, these 'parents' are evil. Its time 'parents' are  alloted respobsibility for their crimes


 Not surprisingly one of these "parents" is a Katie's step mom. Katie’s step mom comments on how Katie is not really her daughter which is why she doesn’t go easy on her like her husband. Also, katie is soooo bad, she's checked out of the relationship.

Rot in hell 'Diane,' child abuser. Mike, youre a sick child torturing freak for what you did to your kid.




"Merry Fricken Christmas
 
this is Diane. [The evil step-mother]
As Mike [the abusive dad] has noticed I have "checked out" regarding Katie's and my relationship. I really tried to make it work when she got home, and there were some nice moments, but sadly that's all they were, moments. [/color]

. Christmas day was fine until around dinner when she reverted back to screaming about things and making everyone miserable. Even Scout has gone back to hiding again when she starts her fits.


The lies have returned and its almost like she wasn't gone for three years, and has not retained anything that they tried to teach her there. The "real" reason she quit Frisches came out when she was talking to one of Erik's friends yesterday. She was sitting on the couch talking like no one else was around when Mike and I were just steps away. Though she exclaimed to us the "real" reason she quit her job was because her grades were being affected, we all knew that was a lie.

I even went so far as to talk with her manager to make sure she wasn't fired. No, she quit. No two week notice and at the beginning of Christmas break when she could have been pulling in the dough. Just another of her extremely bad choices in life. It seems that she thrives on negativity. Oh, and if you're wondering, the "real" reason was because she didn't like some girl there. Big fricken deal. Put your big girl panties on and deal with it. You will go through life and every job you have there will be someone that rubs you the wrong way.

Today we had our big family meeting before Mike left. We didn't have one when he wasn't here because he is the calming person in it all. It can very quickly break down to a screaming match -- with Katie doing the screaming and then she storms off and cries in her bedroom, playing the victim and drama queen to the hilt.


 When it was Katies turn she came out and asked "of the two family leaders sitting here" [she's calling her parents family leaders, like at wwasp] why she hadn't been kicked out yet! I asked her if that was her goal because she truly has been acting like it. She has been making sure to push every button she can to see if we will. And I guess if it were just my decision -- which I'm very glad it's not -- she would be out of here. But luckily Mike has the solid, calm head in the family. Plus it's HIS daughter, it's not my blood daughter and I would maybe feel differently if she was.

I spend my days longer at work, or up in my room again just to make sure there is no fight or confrontation. But then since I'm not around she'll start picking a fight with the boys and they end up coming to me to try to knock sense into her. We've all had it.

When she was having a screaming fit at Jon the other night (it was amazing how calm Jon was through the whole thing!) ... she knows everything, rules don't pertain to her. I truly feel she'll have to hit ALL the bumps in the road that life will bring before she learns anything.

Sad but true.

Hope I make it through the next few days until Mike gets back here. Lord, give me strength.
-D "
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2009, 11:39:13 PM »
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Katie is starting to learn some of the harsh realities of economics in the real world. With her job, she needed bank accounts. Yep, she already bounced some. First she ordered some CD's online (at Amazon) and had it come from her savings - the first mistake. Then she didn't have enough to cover it, so had to deal with the bank charges, and then the vendor charges as well. Of course she didn't have that kind of money - so now her allowance goes to me until it is taken care of. I said that I would help her this once, and have also started doing a check on her accounts to make sure she is actually writing EVERYTHING down in her register - or she earns a Cat 2.

It is very frustrating as a parent to watch your children insist on making the same stupid mistakes, and not listening when we tell them how to avoid them.
Some kids run up hundreds of dollars before their parents find out.  Its good Katies parents are keeping tabs so she doesn’t get herself too far in debt.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2009, 11:40:17 PM »
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....the child's lack of bad behavior makes these parents decision all the more heinous

I can see why the posters here feel the way they do.  Katie is innocent in all of this!  Why didnt someone mention this earlier?  These kids are just randomly plucked out of society and sent to programs for no reason.  All these kids are victims of a cruel random occurance.

That’s right, like Jews during the holocaust, or blacks during America’s slave era, they are more of history’s innocent victims butchered and martyred in a cruel convergence of inadequate and abusive parents and an unresponsive and corrupt state.

During the Greco-Roman period, children could be sold into slavery if they displeased their father. We have not progressed as a species from that point.

Who, you are child murderer. Not so long from now I will see you and your ilk hanging from gallows.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2009, 11:42:50 PM »
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Katie is starting to learn some of the harsh realities of economics in the real world. With her job, she needed bank accounts. Yep, she already bounced some. First she ordered some CD's online (at Amazon) and had it come from her savings - the first mistake. Then she didn't have enough to cover it, so had to deal with the bank charges, and then the vendor charges as well. Of course she didn't have that kind of money - so now her allowance goes to me until it is taken care of. I said that I would help her this once, and have also started doing a check on her accounts to make sure she is actually writing EVERYTHING down in her register - or she earns a Cat 2.

It is very frustrating as a parent to watch your children insist on making the same stupid mistakes, and not listening when we tell them how to avoid them.
Some kids run up hundreds of dollars before their parents find out.  Its good Katies parents are keeping tabs so she doesn’t get herself too far in debt.

Yep, great they found out she was overspending, less great they never found out (or cared) she was being tortured into insanity.

 You have an interesting set of priorities, who.
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2009, 12:04:33 AM »
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....the child's lack of bad behavior makes these parents decision all the more heinous

I can see why the posters here feel the way they do.  Katie is innocent in all of this!  Why didnt someone mention this earlier?  These kids are just randomly plucked out of society and sent to programs for no reason.  All these kids are victims of a cruel random occurance.

That’s right, like Jews during the holocaust, or blacks during America’s slave era, they are more of history’s innocent victims butchered and martyred in a cruel convergence of inadequate and abusive parents and an unresponsive and corrupt state.

During the Greco-Roman period, children could be sold into slavery if they displeased their father. We have not progressed as a species from that point.

Who, you are child murderer. Not so long from now I will see you and your ilk hanging from gallows.

lol, so now I  murder people.  Do I do this in my private Gulag LOL.  I can see why you judge parents and programs (which you know nothing about) so harshly.   They must murder people also, right? So the kids must be the innocent ones in all of this?   They never do anything wrong.  Society builds Gulags and then randomly take kids in to murder.  No trial or anything?  Life in the US is so harsh!!!  Do you think if the kids try to lay low, maybe attend school once in awhile and obey a few of the house rules like their siblings they may be spared a death sentence?
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2009, 12:17:25 AM »
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Yep, great they found out she was overspending, less great they never found out (or cared) she was being tortured into insanity.

You have an interesting set of priorities, who.

You forgot death,,, Katie is still alive, she hasnt died yet, so the program failed, right?  She was never raped!!  what the hell happened?  These places are all alike, right... so where is the rape entry in the blog.  Is it possible that kids get thru a program without being raped or dieing?  Where are the torture entries and the desent into insanity.
Is it possible that Katie never was abused at all?  My God what are these programs coming to?  If they get any softer they will fail to be effective!!
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2009, 12:40:57 AM »
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....the child's lack of bad behavior makes these parents decision all the more heinous

I can see why the posters here feel the way they do.  Katie is innocent in all of this!  Why didnt someone mention this earlier?  These kids are just randomly plucked out of society and sent to programs for no reason.  All these kids are victims of a cruel random occurance.

That’s right, like Jews during the holocaust, or blacks during America’s slave era, they are more of history’s innocent victims butchered and martyred in a cruel convergence of inadequate and abusive parents and an unresponsive and corrupt state.

During the Greco-Roman period, children could be sold into slavery if they displeased their father. We have not progressed as a species from that point.

Who, you are child murderer. Not so long from now I will see you and your ilk hanging from gallows.

lol, so now I  murder people.  Do I do this in my private Gulag LOL.  I can see why you judge parents and programs (which you know nothing about) so harshly.   They must murder people also, right? So the kids must be the innocent ones in all of this?   They never do anything wrong.  Society builds Gulags and then randomly take kids in to murder.  No trial or anything?  Life in the US is so harsh!!!  Do you think if the kids try to lay low, maybe attend school once in awhile and obey a few of the house rules like their siblings they may be spared a death sentence?

Whats wrong with you? I don't think any of us are blind to the fact that teens are tough to deal with a when your growing up we all made lots of mistakes and bad decisions. But that even if they were making these decision that would NEVER constitute abuse. That seems to be your argument here, you have never out-rightly denied the evidence of abuse only said that these kids NEED the "treatment" at these facilities. Do you really think that "misbehaving" teens deserve to be abused? Why is punishment the only method to help a teen learn? I'm sorry but our position is that they DO NOT need it, and that the programs are doing a complete disservice for the kids and their clients (the parents). Just because we are against these programs doesn't mean that we think all teens are perfect little girls and boys, quite the contrary, I think that teens who are acting out and who might actually need help are those who are cheated the most by this opportunist scheme because even the program directors know they are NEVER going to find proper treatment in a program. So I'm just wondering why parents refuse to see that. I guess the only conclusion is that the parents are intended on punishing their children, making their lives miserable (in order to "teach them a lesson") and not really concerned about their happiness, education or getting any proper treatment.
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« Reply #84 on: April 03, 2009, 01:09:17 AM »
Honestly, it sounds like this kid is miserable.

She probably hates her family, they seem like the confrontational type and she seems to be the type to get flustered and act out. I don't doubt that she has some issues dealing with the tension in the home, but I think her parents (and their incredulous judgments of her) make it hard for her to ever move on. I can really understand that kind of dynamic in the home, I have seen it with one of the kids I worked with, it was like no matter what he was doing he was constantly being scolded, punished or reminded of his misbehavior's everyday. I eventually had to sit down with the mother and point out how she are really making a mountain out of a mole hill by nit picking at everything she didn't like about her son's behavior. It was turning him into a very frustrated and angry little kid, not to mention giving him mommy issues. At some point, all the punishment and scolding becomes more than parenting and kids start to think their parents hate them, and then they start to hate them back. I'm of the opinion that the teen years is when you have to let them make some mistakes and not rescue them from the real world consequences so that they can really LEARN. the world is a much bigger bitch than an evil step mother. If I were raising this child I would take her outbursts as a sign that she really needed some space, some room to grow and I would back off a bit and stop being so controlling and judgmental. But it really seems like this situation can just biol down to good ol personality clashes. I think its safe to say sometimes families just don't get along, especially when their are step parents/children and 3 years of pent up anger to deal with.

and OMFG 3 years!!! WTF? do you know if she graduated?
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #85 on: April 03, 2009, 01:49:50 AM »
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....the child's lack of bad behavior makes these parents decision all the more heinous

I can see why the posters here feel the way they do.  Katie is innocent in all of this!  Why didnt someone mention this earlier?  These kids are just randomly plucked out of society and sent to programs for no reason.  All these kids are victims of a cruel random occurance.

That’s right, like Jews during the holocaust, or blacks during America’s slave era, they are more of history’s innocent victims butchered and martyred in a cruel convergence of inadequate and abusive parents and an unresponsive and corrupt state.

During the Greco-Roman period, children could be sold into slavery if they displeased their father. We have not progressed as a species from that point.

Who, you are child murderer. Not so long from now I will see you and your ilk hanging from gallows.

lol, so now I  murder people.  Do I do this in my private Gulag LOL.  I can see why you judge parents and programs (which you know nothing about) so harshly.   They must murder people also, right? So the kids must be the innocent ones in all of this?   They never do anything wrong.  Society builds Gulags and then randomly take kids in to murder.  No trial or anything?  Life in the US is so harsh!!!  Do you think if the kids try to lay low, maybe attend school once in awhile and obey a few of the house rules like their siblings they may be spared a death sentence?

Whats wrong with you? I don't think any of us are blind to the fact that teens are tough to deal with a when your growing up we all made lots of mistakes and bad decisions. But that even if they were making these decision that would NEVER constitute abuse. That seems to be your argument here, you have never out-rightly denied the evidence of abuse only said that these kids NEED the "treatment" at these facilities. Do you really think that "misbehaving" teens deserve to be abused? Why is punishment the only method to help a teen learn? I'm sorry but our position is that they DO NOT need it, and that the programs are doing a complete disservice for the kids and their clients (the parents). Just because we are against these programs doesn't mean that we think all teens are perfect little girls and boys, quite the contrary, I think that teens who are acting out and who might actually need help are those who are cheated the most by this opportunist scheme because even the program directors know they are NEVER going to find proper treatment in a program. So I'm just wondering why parents refuse to see that. I guess the only conclusion is that the parents are intended on punishing their children, making their lives miserable (in order to "teach them a lesson") and not really concerned about their happiness, education or getting any proper treatment.


 :tup:  :tup: thank you!
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #86 on: April 03, 2009, 01:52:41 AM »
NO NEED to subpeona his ip

here's more info about this child abuser and torturer by proxy:

Michael C Carter
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Astrological Sign: Libra
Zodiac Year: Dragon
Industry: Technology
Occupation: Senior Java Developer
Location: Dayton : Ohio : United States
About Me
A father of 5, computer programmer, alpha geek.

You've got to make contact with the alien leader. How will you tell when the conversation is finished?
When the laser blasters stop smoking!!!
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« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2009, 02:03:53 AM »
Khttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09284283089081032577

can someone use the wayback machine to  make sure the above is accurate?
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Re: blog of a program parent
« Reply #88 on: April 03, 2009, 02:13:22 AM »
evil child abusing wife is name diane carter
here are their photos

http://www.fairtaxnation.com/friends/MichaelCCarter


yea, people. contact these creeps. fill them in on reality.
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« Reply #89 on: April 03, 2009, 02:35:11 AM »
We just beat the deadline to get her into Tranquility Bay in Jamaica, as they are no longer going to make loans to schools outside the US. But on further research, I decided that I'm not ready to send her out of the country. That leaves Cross Creek that has therapy programs.
...

 We contacted a transport company . During the day on Wednesday Katie wanted to go back to her old middle school to visit her teachers. She didn't know she was saying goodbye.

 They were coming to get her tomorrow. So I asked her to go to bed at the same time as her brothers. She had a meltdown. One of her biggest. I ended up restraining her for well over an hour - it was only because of biology that she finally gave in - so that she could go to the bathroom - though the door must remain open with me outside of it. She then finally went to bed - I sat outside her door until she was asleep.

At about 10:00 we headed to bed with the alarm set for 2 am.


We finally talked to our family rep, she seems very nice. The plan is to talk to her every two weeks, alternating with Katie's therapist. Our regular calls then with the rep will be on Thursdays. She says to expect to get in a Parent Orientation Guide in the next few days, this will help explain a lot

The youngest boy moves into Katie's room (no reason for two boys to share a room with an empty bedroom next door


Very brief, but filled with a bunch of attempts to induce guilt. Lines like "I guess now you can have a happier time with your wife" - made me want to tear my heart out, and at the same time made me angry at the manipulation I felt behind it.

We continued with the parent orientation. Chapter 3's assignment was to sign and send off a commitment letter - stating that Katie was in the program until she graduated, period.


Chapter four was to log onto the bulletin board and make a post. I did that last week already, once I got access. The board is a little cliquish - there seem to be small groups that talk a lot, and it is hard to get in on those
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