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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2003, 10:33:00 AM »
I am not, and the reason being, I see wrong being done on both sides.  I think my family was exploited by those associated with PURE and those associated with Dundee.
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2003, 10:46:00 AM »
Is it required of a plantiff be associated with or referred by Pure in order to join?
The posts I remember invited anyone to join who felt like they were abused or were victims of fraud perpetrated by WWASP.
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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2003, 10:47:00 AM »
Karen XYZ has no credibility, she destroyed that herself when she failed to disclose the fact that the website she manages (strugglingteenhelp.com) is owned by one of the 4 programs she recommends to parents-in-crisis. This program, Abundant Life Academy also happens to be the same program her son works for.

Second, it has only been recently that Karen's name was taken off the PURE Parent Volunteer List. Isn't that correct, Karen?
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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2003, 11:03:00 AM »
Karen, telling somesone to "shut the fek up" is not very 'christian' of you.  

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2003, 11:24:00 AM »
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The posts I remember invited anyone to join who felt like they were abused or were victims of fraud perpetrated by WWASP.


I don't understand what your point is with this statement.  I said I am not wanting to be a part of the class action law suit because I feel like my family was exploited by Dundee and PURE.  Whether or not the invitation is open to all, really has nothing to do with my decision.
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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2003, 11:25:00 AM »
The previous post is mine.
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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2003, 11:31:00 AM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 10:23 ]
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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2003, 11:36:00 AM »
Karen Z. should do some research to refresh her memory because it was only after someone exposed the truth about Karen and ALA on Fornits, that Karen came clean with the facts.  What else is Karen "confused" and/or "mistaken" about???>??
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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2003, 11:41:00 AM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 10:24 ]
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2003, 12:41:00 PM »
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Anon who thinks I've stumbled in my Christian walk - you may be right. Thats partly why I try and avoid Mz Carey

Wow, you blame me for your stumbling in your Christian walk.  Do you always blame others for your actions?

 
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Go right ahead -
As I said - I hadn't made an issue of it, b/c that would not have been apropreate here. That would have been promoting. However, when the anon who sounded so much like Carey, made an issue of it, I answered all questions fully and compleatly.
I really see no point in doing so again - so please do, look it up and enlighten the world.


Karen, when you can leave my name out of your discussions, then I will quit adressing you.  Until then, you are open game and an easy target I might add.
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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2003, 12:42:00 PM »
Me again, I don't want there to be any confusion.  I want credit for what I say!
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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2003, 02:36:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 10:26 ]
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2003, 03:17:00 PM »
Anon wrote:
Karen XYZ has no credibility, she destroyed that herself when she failed to disclose the fact that the website she manages (strugglingteenhelp.com) is owned by one of the 4 programs she recommends to parents-in-crisis.

Are we back to this? ?Destroyed herself??
Jesus Christ, can you point to the message that states or proves the "fact" that she ?manages? a "WEBSITE"? The issue was answered in this thread:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?mo ... 9&start=70
Karen:
*I* do not make referrals. Ever.
*I* do not make referrals in the traditional sense of the word at all.
There are occasions, few and far between, when a parent calls me or writes as a result of something they've seen on the web that I wrote. Usually, but not always, as a result of the editorial I have up on Lon's site:

I do explain I MODERATE THE FORUM (and point out it could be a handy place to go for certain kinds of additional info) but that the help request info page goes to a group of ed consultants, not me.
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it has only been recently that Karen's name was taken off the PURE Parent Volunteer List. Isn't that correct, Karen?

This issue has already been addressed as well at:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... forum=9&25
Karen:
Apparently you read the link were I explained about Sue's list, and how I was on it due to a misunderstanding and asked to be removed and why - So, I don't understand what your asking or why.
As far as me not knowing if I was still on it - thats just b/c I hadn't bothered to go look.
Sue told me she'd get it off, but it might take a while, b/c web masters are busy people. All I ment was it was off or soon would be - I didn't know at the time if it was yet.
I don't see it as a big deal. I don't understand why anyone does.
For the umptenth time, I am not associated with PURE, never have been and don't want to be.
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Anon, Do you have any new information that would prove otherwise, which might actually interest the PUBLIC, or are you just needing to rag on about your imaginings again? Put up or shut up.

WHY are you taking us back to issues that have already been addressed, and posing your comments as questions, as Carey does?

I loathe Ed Cons or anyone else with a role in the Industry. I'm not defending Karen. If she is paid by the program to REFER or to MODERATE the LISTSERVE, and you can prove it, then dish up the proof. Now, that is something that would be of interest to the PUBLIC. Unless you have some evidence to post. Your ramblings continue to be a waste of time.
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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2003, 03:40:00 PM »
Deborah, Anon in this case is Carey.  she continues to post in haste, and in this lastest instance, identifies herself in order to "take credit for what I wrote".

Carey, I am not Christian, nor am I religious so I can say whatever and not need atonement:

Carey, fuck off.
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« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2003, 03:54:00 PM »
"I'm not defending Karen." per Deborah's previous post.   It's okay, Deborah, to defend a friend.
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