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Wow, obama is going to win
psy:
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--- Quote from: "KathyS" ---Its a learned language that is taught here.
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That is true, and one reason why I don't use those terms. Even so, what they described when first coming here, regardless of descriptive language used, remains constant.
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Actually, bitch, youre the one speaking the "learned Language." Your words "intervention" instead of imprisonment, "escort" instead of kidnappers, "school" instead of gulag or internement camp are deliberate constructs of your Synannon forebearers who applied euphanisms to their trade to hide their actuality.
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True. But when talkign to parents, she has a point. they'll tune out at "kidnapping". Why not, instead of using either "escort" or "kidnapping", say "forcefully taken away to a school in restraints, which can be a terrifying, degrading and humiliating experience for a teen". Let a parent decide what word to put to it.
You can stop using their loaded language, yes, but it doesn't mean you have to invent your own, even if it is more accurate. That being said... it's just my opinion.
Anonymous:
Human traficker: here is the work schedule of Bethal Boys Academy, a WWASP Gulag, a gulag you "referred" M to
WORK
1. Refusal to work is regarded as misconduct.
2. All cadets’ will be assigned to work crews under the supervision of an instructor.[/color]
3. Work will consist of a variety of maintenance, custodial and construction assignments.
1. All cadets’ for specific work crews will depart with the work crew supervisor. They will carry tools,
toolboxes, materials....
5. Work will generally be scheduled Monday through Friday from 0800 hours until sunset.
6. Workers are strictly prohibited from unauthorized contacts with non-Camp personnel while outside thefence. Violation will result in immediate disciplinary action.[/color]
7. Workers must remain at their assigned work site and under the supervision of staff.
Any unscheduled or unauthorized departure or absence from the work site or vehicle will be considered an
escape subject to criminal prosecution.
8. While working around the main complex, no cadet will leave the place of work without authorization
from the work or crew supervisor, nor without a pass properly signed indicating the destination and the
time the cadet left work.
10. All work crew cadets’ are to follow the directions of the drill instructor or maintenance repairman.
12. Each cadet working will carry his share of the job and cannot quit working until the job has been
completed and inspected, unless otherwise authorized.
13. Any cadet on a work crew may be required by the crew supervisor to do any job relating to the general
duties of the work crew.
15. While on a work crew, cadets’ must remain in sight of the work or crew supervisors at all times and
obey all orders.
A. ESCAPE - A person commits an offense if he unlawfully removes himself from official
detention following temporary leave granted for a specific purpose or limited period, or leaves his
work site unauthorized.
B. Permitting or Facilitating Escape — Any person who knowingly causes or facilitates an
escape is committing an offense. If you aid another cadet in any way in an escape, you will be
charged with aiding an escape and conspiracy.
WORKSITE RULES
4. Follow each order given. Your work performance is evaluated daily.
WORKSITE SAFETY
You will be familiar with the operation of all tools you are using and must use safety goggles, gloves, hard hat and ear protection when appropriate. If you should become injured and unable to work, it may become necessary to return you to a correctional institution and assign another cadet in your place.
And when they are not working, they are marching or excersizing. How well and happy they are to "perform" their work and exercize, how "sincerely" they articulate they were saved by wwasp and from now on will be "instictively obedient" will determine "how soon they" are allowed to leave.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: "psy" ---
--- Quote from: "KathyS" ---Its a learned language that is taught here.
--- End quote ---
That is true, and one reason why I don't use those terms. Even so, what they described when first coming here, regardless of descriptive language used, remains constant.
.
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Actually, bitch, youre the one speaking the "learned Language." Your words "intervention" instead of imprisonment, "escort" instead of kidnappers, "school" instead of gulag or internement camp are deliberate constructs of your Synannon forebearers who applied euphanisms to their trade to hide their actuality.
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True. But when talkign to parents, she has a point. they'll tune out at "kidnapping". Why not, instead of using either "escort" or "kidnapping", say "forcefully taken away to a school in restraints, which can be a terrifying, degrading and humiliating experience for a teen". Let a parent decide what word to put to it.
You can stop using their loaded language, yes, but it doesn't mean you have to invent your own, even if it is more accurate. That being said... it's just my opinion.
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PSY, I think perhaps you don't understand what "loaded language" means.
In short, it’s a "language" intentionally designed to confuse about reality. For ex, one cult has its adherents refer to parents as "EvilFleshers." The idea is to install the beleif in adherents their parents are evil, regardless of the actual moral nature of the parent.
This is a tactic to isolate adherents from their familial group thereby increasing emotional dependence on a cult-leader, for the ultimate purpose of his increased control over the adherents’ existence and finances. It is “confusing about reality” in that not all parents are actually evil, and “deceptive” because the greater purpose of the word is not to bring greater understanding to a concept but increased power to a leader.
Secondly, “loaded language” exists where so many “English words” are substituted by alternate cult-speak, that it traps the individual within the cult because it becomes necessary for her to mentally translate cult-speak back into “English” to communicate with non-cult members. Then a cult member is “trapped” within the cult, for the reaons similar to how you’d be “trapped” with english speakers in France: because you can’t talk to anyone else.
Substitute language is also used to mentally confuse a victim because we “think” through language and stealing our “language” steals our thoughts. For ex, WWASP, one of the programs KathyS, the human trafficker “refers” to forces its captives in one of its locales to speak only Spanish. The physiological difficulty, frustration, and inability and subsequent mental anguish us part of the thought reform process.
None of the above is applicable to my use of appropriate terminology, whether or not it is jarring.
Nazis called concentration camps “work camps,”
I am going to call gulags kidnapping and torture “gulags” “kidnappings” and “torture” even if a human trafficker prefers I use the term “escort” “school” and “therapy.” I am going to call concentration camps “concentration camps” even if Nazis prefer I call them “Lollipop Joy Parks.”
Part of the con is getting kids and parents to think of the cultic-gulag experience as participation in a "school." I'm not hurting people by assisting with that con.
Miss Antsy Pam:
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--- Quote from: "Miss Antsy Pam" --- Pam the parent here now....
On another note: Seems I have been labeled a murderer, accused of being Martha and now have been downgraded to thewho status. Thank you very much.
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Not by ME you haven't. Welcome to the club of "name calling"! I have been called LOTS of things/names on these forums - rarely do I take it personally. In case you have not noticed, PARENTS are not EXACTLY welcomed here either. However, I am like a bad penny that keeps coming back for more...such as yourself. The personal comments about your life or current profession are just that...comments.
Whether or not you are TheWho is not relevant to me since that occurred before my time on Fornits. From what I have seen so far is that you are an Ed-Con that places kids in programs or school based on the information you find relevant after interviewing the family. I am happy to hear that you have 73 facilities on your DNR list. Maybe a quick email to ISAC would helped get your lists synced? We don't want those other 10 schools lost in the fray!
I guess it would be too much to ask you to list the schools that your company has on their DNR list? If you don't ask, you never know!
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: "Miss Antsy Pam" --- Pam the parent here now....
On another note: Seems I have been labeled a murderer, accused of being Martha and now have been downgraded to thewho status. Thank you very much.
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Not by ME you haven't. Welcome to the club of "name calling"! I have been called LOTS of things/names on these forums - rarely do I take it personally. In case you have not noticed, PARENTS are not EXACTLY welcomed here either. However, I am like a bad penny that keeps coming back for more...such as yourself. The personal comments about your life or current profession are just that...comments.
Whether or not you are TheWho is not relevant to me since that occurred before my time on Fornits. From what I have seen so far is that you are an Ed-Con that places kids in programs or school based on the information you find relevant after interviewing the family. I am happy to hear that you have 73 facilities on your DNR list. Maybe a quick email to ISAC would helped get your lists synced? We don't want those other 10 schools lost in the fray!
I guess it would be too much to ask you to list the schools that your company has on their DNR list? If you don't ask, you never know!
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hi pam. the only person who call you names here are trolls. You are not comprable to a human traficker in any fashion. Glad to hear she has 73 on her do not refer list? That's a good thing when it refers to Aspen and FFS and others from which you have testimony like the above? Please listen to yourself.
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