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Sarah Palin's Dominionist Ties

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Anonymous:
OMG!!! How dare you criticize Israel!  You anti-Semite!  No wonder you support Barrack HUSSEIN obama!

hey Nazi--where's your swastika?

Talking bad about Israel=you are a bomb-throwing Islamic terrorist, doncha know.......

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "BuzzKill" ---
The radical and vicious associations Obama has are actually close ties (even very close ties) and not at all tenuous.
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I disagree.


--- Quote ---Nor is the radicalism limited to the 60 and 70's. It has changed very little since then.
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Wow.  I completely disagree.   Ya know, I heard one of the news stations this morning talking about how most of these Rep. holdouts are the "get off my lawn" generation that wish the world was still like it was in the 50s.  The only constant is change.  Get over it.


--- Quote ---I think these connections much more troubling than association with the AIP. The AIP has yet to call for butchering people; or incited the butchering of people; or insisted that god dam America; or declared any god who won't help in the destruction of the white race must be killed; or bombed federal buildings and bragged about it to this day.
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The founder of AIP actually did say some pretty fucked up shit about America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmt0rLtgmK0

And another esteemed member of the AIP....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmt0rLtgmK0


--- Quote ---But, if you have anything showing Sarah Palin is a member of the AIP party, I'd like to see it.
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Her husband was for years.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 9468.story
Sarah Palin's ties to Alaskan Independence Party are played down
The McCain campaign denies his running mate supports the party's separatist bent.
By Michael Finnegan, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 3, 2008
Tonight, Sarah Palin will be nominated as the Republican Party's choice for vice president of the United States.

But back home, she has cheered the work of a tiny party that long has pushed for a statewide vote on whether Alaska should secede from those same United States. And her husband, Todd, was a member of the party for seven years.



--- Quote --- Your not referring to the clip of her addressing the AIP before their convention are you? If so, you might want to take another look and give a more careful listen.
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Uh huh.  And?


--- Quote ---No. If Obama wins it will be because he is pleasant to listen to and look at.
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Damn.  You sure claim a lot of your opinions as facts.  Seems to be a common thing with you guys.



--- Quote ---But, there is a very big news story being ignored by the media b/c it reflects badly on their golden boy. It is now 12 states that are investigating ACORN along with the FBI and the voter registration fraud is massive and truly outrageous in its audacity.
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 ::)


--- Quote ---So, in other words you didn't read up on it at all.
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--- Quote from: "BuzzKill" --- I have seen a good deal about it going back maybe the past ten years. I can't recall exactly when I first learned about it. As I said, I have some sympathy for their grievances and understand their POV.
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So, in other words you didn't read up on it at all.


--- Quote ---We see the world differently, you and I. I see the top of the democratic ticket as far more worrisome than the bottom of the Republican.  The people who propelled Obama into his current exalted position are in fact terrorist; and most are in fact either Nation of Islam, or might as well be, considering their rhetoric. This isn't bull shit. It is the truth. You can ignore it if you want to, but it is still the truth.  
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It's YOUR truth Buzz.  Not everyone buys into the bullshit.  Thank Flying Spaghetti Monster.



--- Quote --- Palin is far more qualified and experienced than Obama.  This is just another fact.
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There aren't enough "rolling on the floor laughing my ass off" emoticons to express my amusement at that idiocy.
Damn.  You sure claim a lot of your opinions as facts.  Seems to be a common thing with you guys.


--- Quote --- The man has zero executive experience. He has barely gotten his feet wet in the senate. Palin has been the governor of a major mineral and energy producing state; and judging from her approval ratings, a very good governor.  I'd have no problem voting for her over Obama, if that where the choice I had.
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It pretty much is.  McCain's not going to last very long.

psy:

--- Quote from: "Buzzkill" --- Palin is far more qualified and experienced than Obama.  This is just another fact.
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Palin:
87 - Graduates with BA in Journalism from Univ of Idaho (yet wasn't able to name a single newspaper she reads in the Couric interview)

--- Quote ---Palin attended several colleges and universities. In 1982, she enrolled at Hawaii Pacific College but left after her first semester. She transferred to North Idaho community college, where she spent two semesters as a general studies major. From there, she transferred to the University of Idaho for two semesters.[10][11] During this time Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant[12][13] then finished third in the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant,[14][15] at which she won a college scholarship and the "Miss Congeniality" award.[16] She then attended Matanuska-Susitna community college in Alaska for one term. The next year she returned to the University of Idaho where she spent three semesters completing her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987.
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92-95 - city council
96-02 - Mayor of Wasila (population ~6000)
03-04 - Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
03-05 - Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.
06-08 - Governor of Alaska

(8 years total, 11 if you count the three on city council)

Obama
91 - Graduated Harvard Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude

--- Quote ---Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988. At the end of his first year, he was selected, based on his grades and a writing competition, as an editor of the Harvard Law Review.[19] In February 1990, in his second year, he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the Law Review's staff of eighty editors.[20] Obama's election as the first black president of the Law Review was widely reported and followed by several long, detailed profiles.[20] During his summers, he returned to Chicago where he worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley & Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[21] After graduating with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago.[19]
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92 - Director of Illinois' "Project Vote" - sucessfully achieves target goals
92-04 -
--- Quote ---1992, Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, being first classified as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and then as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004
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93-02 -
--- Quote ---He also, in 1993, joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a twelve attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.
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97-04 - State Legislator
04-08 - US Senator

(11 years in government, far more if you consider his background in law (application of government), specializing in civil rights)

BuzzKill:
Executive experience Psy. She has it, and he doesn't. She doesn't have a lot, but he doesn't have any.

As to the AIP stuff, I have followed it with some interest and I have known about it (the AIP) for many years. As I say, I have some sympathy for their grievances. I'm really not alarmed that Palin's husband was once a member. I'm not bothered at all that she, as governor, addressed the AIP prior to their convention. If you watch it and keep in mind she is the governor, and of an opposing party,I think you'll note a bit of mirth in her tone as she points out what they (she as a republican gov. and the AIP) can agree on. The inference being there are other things they do not agree on.  

And again, I have to say, this in no way compairs with the assoications of Barack Hussain Obama.  

My quip that Obama would win b/c of his pleasant looks and speaking ability may have been flippant. It is true that he has plenty of support by those who agree with his agenda and vision for America. There are others who will vote for McCain for the same reason. But there are an awful lot who will vote for who ever they like the looks of - who ever seems "cool" - and what they actually say, or think, or do, matters not at all with these folks. Sadly, these folks can be the margin of win or loose in national races as close as ours are. In this case, they will swing it for Obama.

psy:
FactCheck.org has an interesting report on the Ayers-Obama connection.  I recommend you read it, Buzz.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... ayers.html

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