here we are reading the tabloids

[Anonymous]

When the hell has AARC ever said it is a school??? I suppose because they provide highschool tutoring for clients they are a school??  they provide a gym and basketball court, does that make them a recration centre?

I was asking what it was billed as.  Thanks for the answer.  It's a treatment center then, no?

uhm, whatduhyathink!!!

As far as Vause's education being dubious. What qualifies you to make that statement. Do you have a PhD?

Why would I need a PhD to question someone's education credentials?

uhm, whatduhyathink, again!!! it kinda would make you knowledgeable enough to judge; not just some loser who thinks he/she can judge the quality of a PhD even though they haven't finshed highschool (or only have a high school education or a basic undergrad). Your remark certainly didn't come from anyone who has earned a PhD - UNLESS ya have been through graduate training you have no way of judging it, you have supplied us with arbitrary speculation from an uninformed person. If you can't get that. stuff it - got nothing else to say on that topic, it is too freaking basic.

And Vinny's fav guest is doing the same. so, what's up with the bad rap he's getting?  But as far as enlisting others, they are fucking with people' wellbeing whether the cockroaches know it or not.  They are toxic [/color]

Vinny's fav guest is welcome to say anything he wishes.  As is Ajax.  As far as the second sentence.....english motherfucker.  Do you speak it?

No uh help me out genius i.e get the typo police on to me . just the usual tactic of evasion of a good point being made.

Oh DUH . . and Vause doesn't know what addicion is and he doesn't think addiction is a physical dependence -

Well, yes.  We can agree on that.

NOPE, your are missing the basics again, einstein!

 do you think maybe when he is talking about 'disease of the feeling' he JUST MIGHT be talking about symptoms.

No.  I think he's using it the same way that Newton did when he coined that phrase.

Yes, him and several hundred other people in the field who use the term 'disease of the feelings' but you miss that one too. AND AGIAN THEY ARE SPEAKING OF SYMPTOMS, EINSTEIN!! LOL

 

This just goes to show the lack to understanding that some of you have. Also, no matter what he does or doesn't do or says or doesn't say - you bring it here and twist it in a way that suits the purpose of blaming AARC for passt clients' lack of education and mental health.   . . .

If they're claiming to be a treatment center, I want to know the qualifications and methodologies they use.  How is that concept so foreign to you?

NOW, have you taken a look at your grammar "motherfucker" LOL you don't even realize what "methodologies" refers to, . . .LOL  SO you believe AARC is not a treatment centre . . well all the power to you. If it makes you feel better, i guess that is what it is for you. In your EXPERT opinion, with no PhD what exactly is a treatment centre??

Guess Vause should add some professionalism to the way he speaks to the clients, those REAL sensitve ones because he should watch out for their feeeeeeeelings. oh ya, it is NOT a disease of the feelings  . . sorry   :wall:

Well, no shit.  Tell that to Vause.

uhm . . and that would be so you would be happy cuz he is hurting your feelings, poor thing and all you buddies out there claiming abuse (there are those symptoms again). He would reply the same as me  ->  :wall:  LOL

[Anonymous]

HEy Psy

NO response, what's wrong??    ::poke::

[Anonymous]

AARC a school?

AARC is in fact a charity, they are licensed only as a charity and are considered a "Temperance Association"

See: City of Calgary White Pages 2008 edition...
page 124 ...
Heading "Special Settings" ...
First Entry: Alberta Adolescent Recovery Center (AARC) 303 Forge Road SE 253-5250

AARC has on it's premises and an off campus classroom of the Alternative High School.

Students/clients are coded as having "severe behaviour problems", "a danger to themselves and others" and "requiring constant adult supervision", via a Calgary Board of Education BASC evaluation upon entering treatment if they are school age.

These same student/clients are, within a short period of time (2 months - Level 2 - One week of "Oldcomer" training), put in the position of being responsible for other youth with the same coding. As far as constant adult supervision, parents receive written documents instructing them to have as little contact as possible with the clients in their homes, with the supervision of the newcomers solely belonging to the oldcomer.

Interesting though, that these students/clients are not actually attending classes for most of their duration in the program if at all.

Ajax and partner (former client/graduate/student of AARC) alone in their grievances

I have spoken to dozens of former clients/students/graduates/parents/run aways/agencies/professionals/media who have significant reports of emotional, psychological, physical and financial abuse, neglect, coercion, familial and parental alienation, human rights violations, misrepresentation and fraud. This does not include the list of people who are no longer alive or currently incarcerated. I'm fairly confident there are others who I haven't had the pleasure to speak with.

So no, Ajax and his partner are NOT alone.

qualifications

Interesting that AARC employs only former graduates and/or their families in all levels of it's operation, considering there are many other qualified individuals who haven't been directly involved as participants in the AARC program.

Please take a close look at any claimed degrees. I PhD. does not mean someone is a psychologist or a medical doctor.

Unfortunately, the rehabilitation industry is unregulated in this country. IF it's a private (not government operated) facility.

Host homes are simply private residences - not licensed group homes. Who do you think is liable? The clients/parents themselves.

What else did you have a problem with?

 :smashcomp:

[psy]

HEy Psy

NO response, what's wrong??    ::poke::

Was busy.  I'll get around to it.  I do have stuff to do that doesn't involve AARC at the moment... but I promise to make more time for AARC from now on since you miss me so when i'm gone.
 ::poke::

[Anonymous]

AARC a school?

AARC is in fact a charity, they are licensed only as a charity and are considered a "Temperance Association"

See: City of Calgary White Pages 2008 edition...
page 124 ...
Heading "Special Settings" ...
First Entry: Alberta Adolescent Recovery Center (AARC) 303 Forge Road SE 253-5250

AARC has on it's premises and an off campus classroom of the Alternative High School.

Students/clients are coded as having "severe behaviour problems", "a danger to themselves and others" and "requiring constant adult supervision", via a Calgary Board of Education BASC evaluation upon entering treatment if they are school age.

YEs TAMI - you create, AARC treats them. WHy should you precious time be consumed . . uhm cleaning up your mess

These same student/clients are, within a short period of time (2 months - Level 2 - One week of "Oldcomer" training), put in the position of being responsible for other youth with the same coding. As far as constant adult supervision, parents receive written documents instructing them to have as little contact as possible with the clients in their homes, with the supervision of the newcomers solely belonging to the oldcomer.

Likely, because some parents are as twisted as you and so although not all are, they have to deal with the ones like you to protect the kids' well-being. Some of the treated kids are far better than you keep even hope to get!

Interesting though, that these students/clients are not actually attending classes for most of their duration in the program if at all.

uhm . . they are in treatment , should they have them getting ready for Harvard?

Ajax and partner (former client/graduate/student of AARC) alone in their grievances

I have spoken to dozens  REALLY, semi-structured interviews, how many EXACTLY from where / any transcripts??? of former clients/students/graduates/parents/run aways/agencies/professionals/media who have significant reports of emotional, psychological, physical and financial abuse, neglect, coercion, familial and parental alienation, human rights violations, misrepresentation and fraud. This does not include the list of people who are no longer alive or currently incarcerated. I'm fairly confident there are others who I haven't had the pleasure to speak with.
Sounds pretty scientific and reliable for AJAX!

So no, Ajax and his partner are NOT alone.  nope they have you and you are such a help to those around you as we can tell but do share with us the details - how many former client? how many students? how many graduates? how many parents? how many run aways? how many agencies? how many professionals? how many media?

qualifications

Interesting that AARC employs only former graduates and/or their families in all levels of it's operation, considering there are many other qualified individuals who haven't been directly involved as participants in the AARC program.

UHm here you go showing how dense you are - former grads who have gone through addiction and recovery and gotten counselling degrees up to a Masters level and that is not good enough for you. dod ya think maybe they are the ones who would truly have the knowledge, capacity, experience and training to know what a client is going through??? In you wee mind, someone that hasn't been an addict alacoholic or know the recovery process like an addit wouldbe more in tune?? not to mention those that not only have that background but professional training


Please take a close look at any claimed degrees. I PhD. does not mean someone is a psychologist or a medical doctor.

REad other posts here - it does mean that they have the most knowledge on the particular area of their PhD and expert and that is Vause's PhD - adolescent addiction treatment, but you need to have psychologist. shows what you know LOL

Unfortunately, the rehabilitation industry is unregulated in this country. AND unfortunately anyone can have kids in this country IF it's a private (not government operated) facility.

Host homes are simply private residences - not licensed group homes. Who do you think is liable? The clients/parents themselves. AND does AARC have percautions and procedures in place- be careful not to lie

What else did you have a problem with?   yes, what other things can you find to say that speaks against a proven track record of helping kids and families - please share you numbers. I really want to know if I should be ready to count on two hands
 

 ::fullofshit::
 :smashcomp:

[Froderik]

All these goddam long posts..

So what the hell are we arguing about here? I want in on this.

[Anonymous]

quote="Froderik"]All these goddam long posts..

So what the hell are we arguing about here? I want in on this.[/quote]


I think the point has been made that this site is like reading stuff in the tabloids - ridiculous claims to taunt the rubber neckers, the ones looking for a train wreck at AARC that JUST can't find one . . B-CUZ one does not exist . However, we have a couple regulars here that want us all to believe one does . . you know    :blabla:     :blabla:      :blabla:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

[Froderik]

So were you in this place?

[Anonymous]

YEs TAMI - you create, AARC treats them. WHy should you precious time be consumed . . uhm cleaning up your mess

I'm glad you have such a high opinion of AARC clients. Describing them as other people's messes. Wow, you must be such a pleasure sit in rap all day with!

Unfortunately your experts aren't so good at recognizing and diagnosing addiction. Don't worry, plenty of my "precious time" as you like to refer to is being spent cleaning up a mess alright.

[Anonymous]

nope they have you and you are such a help to those around you as we can tell but do share with us the details - how many former client? how many students? how many graduates? how many parents? how many run aways? how many agencies? how many professionals? how many media?

I'm afraid you don't need to know how many former clients/students/graduates/parents/runaways/agencies or media I've spoken to. That is simply none of your business. I'm not going to dig through research to satisfy your curiosity, or ferreting out information. I posted a comment to make a point. I made it, the numbers are completely irrelevant. My point is that AJAX is is far from alone is his complaints about AARC.

[Anonymous]

YEs TAMI - you create, AARC treats them. WHy should you precious time be consumed . . uhm cleaning up your mess

I'm glad you have such a high opinion of AARC clients. Describing them as other people's messes. Wow, you must be such a pleasure sit in rap all day with!

Unfortunately your experts aren't so good at recognizing and diagnosing addiction. Don't worry, plenty of my "precious time" as you like to refer to is being spent cleaning up a mess alright.

Tami Dearest, why didn't you take your poor kid somewhere else?   then it would have been a different facility getting blamed for your mess. And yes, you should be cleaning up a mess that YOU created. Youare dead right. I don't have a good opinion of AARC clients like you. But ones who are not as self-absorbed and who  go through, give back and have an genuinely healthy relationship with the rest of their family and others - I have a very high opinion of. What is your opinion of those clients? - bet you do not a good thing to say about them, do you - like they are brain-washed and in AARC's control, rather than bloody grateful and just good people who needed help and took it. .

And by the way, you were the one in 'rap sessions' not me, because dear,  you needed some help. Oh ya, AARC was a terrible place  :blabla:  :blabla:  It had absolutely NOTHING to do with you . . roflmao.
Sorry Tami Dearest, I have read your attack on Noah (a grad expressin his gratitude for AARC) and your BS here - you should have been shipped to the Foothills centre and locked up. Maybe your kid would have got and stayed well. From what I hear you have twisted him up real well since he graduated. I feel VERY VERY sorry for him. IT is NOT AARC that  'created' him, the poor kid didn't have a chance even without being an addict (as you say). SO, if he isn't, what is wrong and who played a role in that?

[psy]

you were the one in 'rap sessions' not me, because dear,  you needed some help.

Ok.  Now Let's do an experiment here.  You have made a statement.  X because Y.  

X - in rap sessions
Y - needed help

So back up Y.  Show me the evidence or reasoning you have to back up Y.

[Froderik]

you were the one in 'rap sessions' not me, because dear,  you needed some help.

Ok.  Now Let's do an experiment here.  You have made a statement.  X because Y.  

X - in rap sessions
Y - needed help

So back up Y.  Show me the evidence or reasoning you have to back up Y.

I "needed some help." Those were the exact words used by Suzanne Byrd on my intake back in 1982. What Straight had to offer was not help. Far from it.

I'd like to pose my question again to the same guest: So, were you in this place?