is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?

[Anonymous]

What never existed was a post with CCM's full info, he's not denying a post with blanked out info.  How can you be so obtuse. 

If you dedicated a fraction of all this time you're wasting trolling a six month old issue to addressing abusive programs,  you would be more effective.   I doubt you have any interest in abusive programs other than working for one.  I don't think the GAO hearings got as much attention as "Zengate '08".

The more you call him a "liar", the more you distance yourself from what supposedly motivated you:  CCMgirl is no issue for you, just hammering away at Zen, and you're getting sloppy and desperate-looking.  You really do look like Peninsula staff with a vendetta.

You're turning Zen into a martyr.  PV doesn't want a St. Zen, do they?
 

[Anonymous]

::deadhorse::

Troll.  In six months, no one has shown zenagent did anything wrong.  You have, however, by posting his family's address and pictures and tormenting another survivor.  If you really were concerned about the privacy of program survivors, you'd quit posting the "revenge" stuff about zenagent's kid and stop this.  You're starting to conjure sympathy for zenagent after half a year of posting his kid's pictures, address, phone number.  Are you Peninsula Village People?  PV alumni?

You're not beating a dead horse at this point, you're committing necrophiliac bestiality with the animal.     You're Mark Sudweeks!

[Che Gookin]

You're not beating a dead horse at this point, you're committing necrophiliac bestiality with the animal.     You're Mark Sudweeks!

Holy shit dawg.. You've coined an entirely new insult.

For example:

HOLY shit man you are boning a dead horse! You are pulling a Mark Sudweeks!


Let's see if we can get this posted on urban dictionary aight?

[Anonymous]

You're not beating a dead horse at this point, you're committing necrophiliac bestiality with the animal.     You're Mark Sudweeks!

Holy shit dawg.. You've coined an entirely new insult.

For example:

HOLY shit man you are boning a dead horse! You are pulling a Mark Sudweeks!


Let's see if we can get this posted on urban dictionary aight?

"Oh, dude.  You totally Sudweeksed that maggoty nag.  Man, I think I'm gonna have a technicolor yawn, that's so disgusting" 

[Che Gookin]

Dawg you win! YOU WIN! I bow to greatness.

Come up with one for Sue Scheff also will you?

[Anonymous]

No. He DID deny that an “original post” existed:


 

   

The "bury this carcass thread" is where it took place, nowhere else, and whatever you are looking for "exists" there. […]I haven't admitted to any "original post" somewhere else, because there simply isn't one. Maybe you're confused by the one Psy identified as another troll's fake, but that's the one CCM, Who and a bunch of people with no names kept posting as the ultimate "proof".   After Psy showed it was a fiction, the witch hunt shifted to  a search for some "other" phantom post.  If "so many" claim to have seen this post, why ask me to find it?  CCM and others swore up and down that they saw full info, until Psy showed it had never existed - the post they cited as a "censored" one was a fraud. 

Lying about it "never existing" implies lying about what was up originally, as does the conflicting stories about what he knows and posted about ccm.


I didn’t post photos I don’t know how to.

Zen posted her info—which he got somehow. Then deleted the post. That’s what happened. Do you want the same done to you?

Are you saying any quote is made up, Zen?

[Anonymous]

No. He DID deny that an “original post” existed:


 

   

The "bury this carcass thread" is where it took place, nowhere else, and whatever you are looking for "exists" there. […]I haven't admitted to any "original post" somewhere else, because there simply isn't one. Maybe you're confused by the one Psy identified as another troll's fake, but that's the one CCM, Who and a bunch of people with no names kept posting as the ultimate "proof".   After Psy showed it was a fiction, the witch hunt shifted to  a search for some "other" phantom post.  If "so many" claim to have seen this post, why ask me to find it?  CCM and others swore up and down that they saw full info, until Psy showed it had never existed - the post they cited as a "censored" one was a fraud. 

Lying about it "never existing" implies lying about what was up originally, as does the conflicting stories about what he knows and posted about ccm.


I didn’t post photos I don’t know how to.

Zen posted her info—which he got somehow. Then deleted the post. That’s what happened. Do you want the same done to you?

Are you saying any quote is made up, Zen?

(also, i don't keep bringing this up, other's do, and I respond to the b.s and lies)

[Anonymous]

Lying about it "never existing" implies lying about what was up originally, as does the conflicting stories about what he knows and posted about ccm.

What he knows is none of your damn business.  Her name and address was never posted.

I didn’t post photos I don’t know how to.

You and CCMgirl have the same lack of skill, huh?  If you know how to play with the links, you know how to post pictures. 

Zen posted her info—which he got somehow. Then deleted the post. That’s what happened. Do you want the same done to you?

Well, no harm no foul I guess.  Sure.  Shit, you don't even know how zenagent got her info?  You don't even know if he had her info.  I imagine zenagent would like the same done to him, go ahead and delete his kid's personal info.

Are you saying any quote is made up, Zen?

zenagent hasn't been on this thread in a while, although you certainly are all dewy for him.  Get over him, sweetpea, he's ignoring you.  For all we know, you're zenagent pretending to be a stupid and sloppy troll.

I'm saying you make shit up.  Psy says you made shit up.  If you don't even trust the admins, you're shitting against the wall here, sunshine.

(also, i don't keep bringing this up, other's do, and I respond to the b.s and lies)

A lil' one man/woman jihad, huh?  You create the b.s. and lies, and you're looking dumber by the minute.  How's binnis at your program, love nugget?

[Guest]

Lying about it "never existing" implies lying about what was up originally, as does the conflicting stories about what he knows and posted about ccm.

What he knows is none of your damn business.  Her name and address was never posted.

I didn’t post photos I don’t know how to.

You and CCMgirl have the same lack of skill, huh?  If you know how to play with the links, you know how to post pictures. 

Zen posted her info—which he got somehow. Then deleted the post. That’s what happened. Do you want the same done to you?

Well, no harm no foul I guess.  Sure.  Shit, you don't even know how zenagent got her info?  You don't even know if he had her info.  I imagine zenagent would like the same done to him, go ahead and delete his kid's personal info.

Are you saying any quote is made up, Zen?

zenagent hasn't been on this thread in a while, although you certainly are all dewy for him.  Get over him, sweetpea, he's ignoring you.  For all we know, you're zenagent pretending to be a stupid and sloppy troll.

I'm saying you make shit up.  Psy says you made shit up.  If you don't even trust the admins, you're shitting against the wall here, sunshine.

(also, i don't keep bringing this up, other's do, and I respond to the b.s and lies)

A lil' one man/woman jihad, huh?  You create the b.s. and lies, and you're looking dumber by the minute.  How's binnis at your program, love nugget?

zEN ^^^

[Che Gookin]

Nah it was me.

 :moon:

[Anonymous]

No. He DID deny that an “original post” existed:


 

   

The "bury this carcass thread" is where it took place, nowhere else, and whatever you are looking for "exists" there. […]I haven't admitted to any "original post" somewhere else, because there simply isn't one. Maybe you're confused by the one Psy identified as another troll's fake, but that's the one CCM, Who and a bunch of people with no names kept posting as the ultimate "proof".   After Psy showed it was a fiction, the witch hunt shifted to  a search for some "other" phantom post.  If "so many" claim to have seen this post, why ask me to find it?  CCM and others swore up and down that they saw full info, until Psy showed it had never existed - the post they cited as a "censored" one was a fraud. 

Lying about it "never existing" implies lying about what was up originally, as does the conflicting stories about what he knows and posted about ccm.


I didn’t post photos I don’t know how to.

Zen posted her info—which he got somehow. Then deleted the post. That’s what happened. Do you want the same done to you?

Are you saying any quote is made up, Zen?

(also, i don't keep bringing this up, other's do, and I respond to the b.s and lies)

^^^^^^^^^
Aluminum Beanie Wearing FREAK

Are you pining for your man zenagent, sugar?  Are you looking to every anon poster to be him?  Who are you, sweetpea?  Gosh, isn't it cute, you're sputtering and stamping your feet like a three year old.  Isn't it adorable?

You're pursuing an issue that everyone is over, and looking a right twat for posting fake shit. 

This should have resolved it for you.  You can spend the rest of your feeble existence screaming about your paranoid conspiracies, but that style of trolling is not for the long haul.

Do you any of the above quotes have been altered?

1. Yes.  The highlighted line in red (above post) was never in the original here (febuary post), which, as you can also see, has not been modified as there is no modificiation tag*.

2. Even if such a line was there (which it wasn't, since the post I linked to above wasn't modified), all it would show is that Zen posted CCM's first name, Miranda, which was public knowledge (something that she published on antiWWASP and on her myspace page, available by googling her username).  If the line you inserted (forged) is accurate (which it's not since the post was not modified), all it would show is that zen threatened to out CCM, but did not actually do so (and none of that even shows he even had her info).

3. Even if Zen did out CCM by providing her full name, (which he did not do, and could not have done, as detailed above), there was no harm done, as not even CCM can provide evidence that she was harmed.

I am addressing this now as I did before the server crash and that post was lost (All posts between March 10th and about June 10th).  I will not address this again.  Rather I will quote this post.

*modifications made within 5 mins of posting are not recorded.  However.  See point 2.

[Anonymous]

zenagent hasn't been on this thread in a while, although you certainly are all dewy for him.  Get over him, sweetpea, he's ignoring you.  For all we know, you're zenagent pretending to be a stupid and sloppy troll.

Zen’s not responding while logged in ‘cause he’s been caught lying, and every time he responds he digs himself in deeper.

What he knows is none of your damn business.  Her name and address was never posted.

What he knows about ccm’s relevant because his contradictory claims about it indicate he’s lying about what he originally posted.

It’s relevant because how could he have found ccm’s info if not by abusing powers? She’s said she only used her real name in P/Ms and when she registered.

I'm saying you make shit up.  Psy says you made shit up.  If you don't even trust the admins, you're shitting against the wall here, sunshine.

Psy, you think I faked a quote? As I said, the bit in red was someone (not me) obviously adding their summation of Zen’s quote above it:

Zen, posting peoples personal information on the open forum.  Dont you have any boundaries?  Dont give me the crap that it was already public.  If she wanted the information out there she would put it in her footer or make it public herself.

http://fornits.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=3u9d2cfdh168l9llh5ke5omsr3&topic=24719.msg305123#msg305123

You notice I left a lot of blanks?

DON'T ask for what you DON'T WANT....I've got as many boundaries as you, who.  Obviously.

Now, honor your end and post something other than a dead thread.  You're not giving me FACTS, just re-hashes.

Share your "information".

Now I'll honor my end and delete the above.

 Nothing was “forged” because the way it’s written, that it’s in parenthesis, and in red, means the author is ADDING his own ideas. He's not “forging” Zen’s writing

Which quote are you saying is forged, Zen? Pys? The one where Zen claims there never was an “original post”—where he’s lying? The one he contradicts himself about what he posted and what he “knows”? The relevant ones? Want me to email you proof of their validity?

Everything posted is true to the original I quoted… And anyone can be “outted” next. You can have your info pooled and used against you

Zen got her info(abusing powers—my opinion)  and posted it. I agree this is old. Maybe make SURE that mods cannot see any identifying info, if you want to keep him on, and that’s just a wiser policy in general. But I don't think anyone who does--even if it's just threaten to post a survivor's info to make them do something-- should be on board here.

[Anonymous]

I edited CCM's name out of the post without anyone asking me to do it.

Follow the link.  That line "I edited....isn't in the post linked.  They're making shit up, hoping no one double checks them.

Looks like we go the real liars.

Want me to post evidence of this, Zen?

[Anonymous]

Everything posted is true to the original I quoted… And anyone can be “outted” next. You can have your info pooled and used against you

"Corey"?  Corky, more likely.

Well, Zen's family might know more about having their info pooled and posted then YOU, Corky.   Man, you are trying to spread your paranoia. 

Zen got her info(abusing powers—my opinion)  and posted it. I agree this is old. Maybe make SURE that mods cannot see any identifying info, if you want to keep him on, and that’s just a wiser policy in general. But I don't think anyone who does--even if it's just threaten to post a survivor's info to make them do something-- should be on board here.

Your opinion so far has been shit.  You're just a garden variety Peninsula Village troll.  If Zen were the asshole you say he is, and he really had CCM's info, he would have come on anonymously and posted CCM's info every time you posted about his daughter, or his wife, or posted their address and number.

He didn't, and you haven't proven he ever did.

You're the real asshole, Corky and denying you posted zen's info won't do any good, we'll invent shit like you do.  Refer to Psy's post again and get somebody to explain it to you.

Go home Corky.  Game over.

[Anonymous]

I edited CCM's name out of the post without anyone asking me to do it.

Follow the link.  That line "I edited....isn't in the post linked.  They're making shit up, hoping no one double checks them.

Looks like we go the real liars.

Want me to post evidence of this, Zen?

Re: Liar, liar pants on fire!

You are a three year old.  Dude, you've posted the same tired shit over and over.  If you want to keep talking to people who aren't around, carry on, you're the freak.  If you want to address zen, why don't you do it in the PV YLF forum?  You'll be sure to have his attention, instead of calling Che zen, or anyone who disagrees with you.

You're making zen look like he's the victim of a nutjob troll working for PV.  No one else would keep trying to manufacture drama that isn't there for six months.  You're a loser.