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Offline Anne Bonney

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« Reply #390 on: November 16, 2007, 07:06:08 PM »
You are.  I'm not saying it was right.  BUT.....I'm not as upset about it as I would be if it was a survivor.   Sorry, I think there's a difference.  NOT THAT ITS RIGHT....just that I'm not as upset as I would be.   AND.....I don't think its a harmful as what he's tried to say.  That's really it.
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« Reply #391 on: November 16, 2007, 07:08:18 PM »
It doesn't matter if THE WHO is this "Alan Newman" or not.  Posting this was just wrong.  Privacy on FORNITS is the issue.
Psy was wrong to post this; and he has apologized.
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« Reply #392 on: November 16, 2007, 07:10:42 PM »
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You are.  I'm not saying it was right.  BUT.....I'm not as upset about it as I would be if it was a survivor.   Sorry, I think there's a difference.  NOT THAT ITS RIGHT....just that I'm not as upset as I would be.   AND.....I don't think its a harmful as what he's tried to say.  That's really it.


I don't see a difference. If people want survivors to be as respected as everyone else in this scene then they had damn well better be willing to respect the privacy of everyone, equally.
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« Reply #393 on: November 16, 2007, 07:11:44 PM »
This issue is going to keep me up all night in contemplative worry.
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« Reply #394 on: November 16, 2007, 07:13:15 PM »
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You are.  I'm not saying it was right.  BUT.....I'm not as upset about it as I would be if it was a survivor.   Sorry, I think there's a difference.  NOT THAT ITS RIGHT....just that I'm not as upset as I would be.   AND.....I don't think its a harmful as what he's tried to say.  That's really it.

I don't see a difference. If people want survivors to be as respected as everyone else in this scene then they had damn well better be willing to respect the privacy of everyone, equally.



Ok.
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« Reply #395 on: November 16, 2007, 07:14:51 PM »
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This issue is going to keep me up all night in contemplative worry.





Try this.. it helps.
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« Reply #396 on: November 16, 2007, 07:19:25 PM »
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This issue is going to keep me up all night in contemplative worry.




Try this.. it helps.



Nice!  



This works too.


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« Reply #397 on: November 16, 2007, 07:21:21 PM »
Thanks guys but I don't do drugs or drink. I prefer to keep a clear head because I am a fighter pilot. I am in line to become an astronaut, so you know why I can't fail a drug test.
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« Reply #398 on: November 16, 2007, 07:25:41 PM »
Despite our disagreement I just want you to know you have a hellah fine ass.



Hopefully santa stuffs one of these in your stocking for xmas.


just so long as he drops off this for me:




and because this is the who we are hassling over for him he should get:




and of course because Psy was a naughty boy he should get:



Hopefully he won't enjoy it to much.
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« Reply #399 on: November 16, 2007, 07:31:42 PM »
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and so they die. this is the reason why the loved one's can put them in treatment. if you want to see what its like for people without loved ones go check your local skid row.

working to change programs for the better is fine. but suggesting that all drug treatment and alcoholics anonymous is evil is just absurd. only people who have been addicts understand.

when you let yourself die before asking for help. there has to be a way to help these people. yes even if they are teens since they can find drugs just as easily and get addicted like adults too.

i am anti-abusive-program, but i don't believe you need to throw the baby out with the bath water. i pray you never experience life threatening drug or alcohol addiction in your life.

even those in treatment or program unnecessarily can aknolwedge there were some there who needed help. look at it from the big picture. the world is not all about you and your experience, however bad it was.


You make some fine points. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a genious, and good looking and maybe even rich. You probably lost your virginity in a fouresome with swedish virgin models right? You can tell us the truth.
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« Reply #400 on: November 16, 2007, 07:32:18 PM »
Call Miller and Ruthie and invite them to the memorial service for their victims.

Miller Newton and his wife, Ruth Ann Newton, are criminal child abusers who have amazingly done no jail time for their crimes.

They have been successfully sued by former clients, so successful, in fact, that Miller and Ruthie have filed for bankruptcy. BEing the criminals and lying con artists that they are, though, they tried to defraud some of their creditors, Miller Newton just couldn't resist pulling another con game off, sort of like how he would try to pass himself off as a doctor, and demand to be called "Dr." Newton, when in reality he has a degree in divinity from a mail-order diploma mill; or when he would make up "facts" and figures in his books, which although filled fith disinformation, distortion, and downright dishonesty and lies, he tried to pass off as being valuable source material for real information about drug use and drug treatment. Miller Newton is a quack and a liar in addition to being a child abuser.

Call him today at (727) 392-3437 and tell him about himself! :wave:
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« Reply #401 on: November 16, 2007, 07:32:33 PM »
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Despite our disagreement I just want you to know you have a hellah fine ass.



Hopefully santa stuffs one of these in your stocking for xmas.


just so long as he drops off this for me:




and because this is the who we are hassling over for him he should get:




and of course because Psy was a naughty boy he should get:



Hopefully he won't enjoy it to much.





 ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  

Now that was funny!



Shucks again.   Eh, not bad for an old lady.  :oops:   ::seg::
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« Reply #402 on: November 16, 2007, 07:32:55 PM »
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It doesn't matter if THE WHO is this "Alan Newman" or not.  Posting this was just wrong.  Privacy on FORNITS is the issue.
Psy was wrong to post this; and he has apologized.


I guess "wrong" is a matter of perspective.

Was this "wrong"

http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=295925#295925
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Deborah, why do you continue to judge people you don’t know?  How awful to prejudge people like that!! She may have a dying mother at home and having the Akers bring Emily home may be the fastest route to have them all together.  The mother may have been persuaded by Emily to stay with “her motherâ€
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« Reply #403 on: November 16, 2007, 07:37:04 PM »
Call Miller Newton at (727) 392-3437 and ask him if he has stopped abusing children. That sorry motherfucker needs to hear from more of his victims, he thinksthat those of you who haven't called feel some kind of gratitude toward he and that disgusting swill-eating turd, Ruth Ann. Let him know how it really is. Don't hold back, let the hatred flow........he abused you when you were a kid and he thinks he got away with it. LEt him know you haven't forgotten.
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« Reply #404 on: November 16, 2007, 07:39:12 PM »
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Quote from: ""Guest""
It doesn't matter if THE WHO is this "Alan Newman" or not.  Posting this was just wrong.  Privacy on FORNITS is the issue.
Psy was wrong to post this; and he has apologized.


I guess "wrong" is a matter of perspective.

Was this "wrong"

http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=295925#295925
Quote from: "TheWho"
Deborah, why do you continue to judge people you don’t know?  How awful to prejudge people like that!! She may have a dying mother at home and having the Akers bring Emily home may be the fastest route to have them all together.  The mother may have been persuaded by Emily to stay with “her motherâ€
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