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« Reply #360 on: November 16, 2007, 04:26:43 PM »
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however part of the responsibility does lay on TheWho

That is where you are wrong. I know it's difficult for you to take responsibility. This is why I do not push you. I only suggest that you admit to yourself it was your choice alone to post this information. Don't worry about admitting these things on this web site. Be honest with yourself and the rest will follow. I thinking you are making progress Psy. This thread shows you making a death threat against imaginary kidnappers and now imaginary posters. Work on yourself for a time and then return if you must. The issue will remain even if you take a break. I believe you need it and you can trust me Psy. I am rooting for you and I will keep my fingers crossed.


Whootie...why do you sound like HAL from 2001: A Space Odyssey?

Psy...what are you doing, Psy?  I am afraid I cannot allow that, Psy....It would compromise the mission.
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« Reply #361 on: November 16, 2007, 04:27:56 PM »
Well we all make mistakes and I'm glad you are being a stand up guy about it and admitting it.

Just try your best to sort it out.
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« Reply #362 on: November 16, 2007, 04:29:12 PM »
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Oi vey....

ha ha Gookin it's OY VEY

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:


You could have told me that on MSN you know. We are talking as I type and all..

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« Reply #363 on: November 16, 2007, 04:33:19 PM »
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Well we all make mistakes and I'm glad you are being a stand up guy about it and admitting it.

Just try your best to sort it out.


Well.  I owe somebody a picture of me in a T-shirt now, I suppose, as is the tradition.  What will it say?
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« Reply #364 on: November 16, 2007, 04:36:44 PM »
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Well we all make mistakes and I'm glad you are being a stand up guy about it and admitting it.

Just try your best to sort it out.

Well.  I owe somebody a picture of me in a T-shirt now, I suppose, as is the tradition.  What will it say?


I have a delightful picture of a huge middle finger. Seriously man.. sometimes you can be at risk of going to far.
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« Reply #365 on: November 16, 2007, 04:40:36 PM »
I called the phone number again and left a message he might want to check out this web site before his boss does. I think you need to delete the posts with the incorrect information or else you will get in trouble with the law. You can't just post lies on the internet and expect to get away with it.
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« Reply #366 on: November 16, 2007, 04:45:29 PM »
This has much potential. I approve of it.. well I can't approve of it as i'm no longer afflicted with SPD so I will encourage this positive thinking with statements of positive words.. err.. ok yeah.
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« Reply #367 on: November 16, 2007, 04:46:22 PM »
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I called the phone number again and left a message he might want to check out this web site before his boss does. I think you need to delete the posts with the incorrect information or else you will get in trouble with the law. You can't just post lies on the internet and expect to get away with it.


Oh god.. please stop calling him.
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« Reply #368 on: November 16, 2007, 05:11:51 PM »
If it is him, he posted his name himself quite some time ago.  A couple of people remembered it and then someone else Googled him and found public information about him.  If its not, Psy - call the guy who appears in the website up, do a big mea culpa, promise to be a good boy and not do that again and move on.


K?



K.




Thx.




buh bye.





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« Reply #369 on: November 16, 2007, 05:25:32 PM »
I think it's time that everyone take the time to read this.

Internet Stalking and 'Revenge' Sites

"Today anyone on the Internet can find out more about what you read, think, and earn than the secret police of Stalin or Hitler could have learned." - Nowhere to Hide, by Robert Scheer

In recent years, stalkers have found a new medium through which to commit crimes against their victims- the internet. The reason for this is that the perceived anonymity of the World Wide Web makes it a safe vessel through which stalkers can terrorize, harass and threaten the very victims which have obtained offline restraining orders against them, or even individuals whom they have never met before offline.

The topic of 'revenge sites' has even many First Amendment activists divided. These sites have sprung up all over the World Wide Web urging people to submit the names, social security numbers, ages and names of children, etc. of the perceived 'offending party', generally an ex-spouse or lover, but to include ex-roommates, friends and family members. Many of these sites even charge membership fees! These sites, often illegally, harass and endanger the lives of many innocent victims and are often perpetrated by vengeful and obsessively dangerous persons. One site in particular, frequented by my stalker, had a submission sent at one point that suggested breaking a light bulb into the victim's puppy's food and gleefully watching the victim's grief as the puppy died slowly of internal bleeding! This person later went on to submit the name and address of an ex-spouse under a different handle.

However, due to my case with my stalker (whose stalking first began offline and then progressed online in an attempt to avoid legal repercussions) as well as a case in Los Angeles County , on January 1, 1999, California stalking legislation included the use of the internet and other electronic means into the penal code.

However, many victims of cyber-stalking crimes do not know the identity of their stalkers which makes prosecuting such crimes extremely frusterating. A non-profit organization has sprung up by the name of Cyber Angels. Through this non-profit organization, one may report incidences of cyber harassment, terrorization and stalking.

I would like to add though for those reading this who have been the victim of such harassment, that my stalker was actually prosecuted for her crimes, ordered by a judge to take down her personal 'revenge' site against me and my boyfriend (which urged others to harass us for her since criminal and civil protective orders had been issued against her protetecting us from such behavior on her part). Moreover, in November 1999 a warrantless search and seizure clause was added to her formal probation terms. This was a particular victory for Scott and I (as it would have been to anyone who had been a victim of such ongoing crimes) in the sense that if anything should "appear" on the internet that threatens or harasses Scott or myself, her computer can be confiscated in the absence of a warrant. She, of course, has been trying to appeal this particular condition of her probation ever sense and to no avail.
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« Reply #370 on: November 16, 2007, 05:37:45 PM »
I agree that sites can be used for stalking, but I don't think this falls into that category.  IF it really is Who, he posted that info himself and his bio is publicly listed anyway.  IF it really is Who, he is indeed an industry shill and exposing that fact is, IMO, valid.  No one posted his home phone, social security number or his daughter's name or anything like that.  Now, you may have a debatable issue about Fornits privacy policy, anon terms or whatever but I don't see where this would be stalking.  That's a little extreme.

As far as 'offensive posts'......some of the stuff that's posted here is childish.  Some of it is offensive.  Some of it is downright vulgar and repulsive.  But I could be talking about either the scat porn pictures or about the stories of abuse inside RTC/TBSs.  This is one of the few totally open forums that allows both sides to be presented without censorship.  It IS about free speech.   That means that we tolerate shit that we don't like.  We can bitch about it, ridicule it, slam it and bounce it around but we do tolerate it.  Just like the nazi dickheads who hold rallies on courthouse steps.  No one likes it, but we tolerate it because we value the freedom that is ever so slowly (faster lately) being eroded daily.  I don't like everything that "the boys" (meant affectionately guys) post, but goddamn I'll stand up for their right to post it.
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« Reply #371 on: November 16, 2007, 05:48:36 PM »
This is the problem I have with the whole thing. If I had gone out and exposed a Survivor  everyone would have gone psychotic. Let's be honest.. not many people here would agree to such an action no matter if the survivor had posted their name for a short period or not.

So here we have the Who...

Where do you start drawing lines about what is acceptable to expose or not?

I'm not so sure I would have refused to post the Who's information had I came across it. So it is for this reason I'm not willing to beat up on Psy about it. No point in roughing the guy up for something I probably would have done myself.

However, to wrap up my point, either we respect everyone's privacy or we respect noboby's privacy.
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« Reply #372 on: November 16, 2007, 05:49:27 PM »
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Psy,

I had figured out EP's identity via board postings and myspace and not moderating powers I agreed to respect his privacy.
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How did you manage to do that? I'm not trolling you, or trying to insinuate anything sinister, but the idea that mods can know our personal identites is kinda SCARING me, now....

Do you know who I am?

What can a person know from ips alone?
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« Reply #373 on: November 16, 2007, 05:50:52 PM »
how was the personal id of who found out?
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« Reply #374 on: November 16, 2007, 05:52:04 PM »
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Do you know who I am?


no.

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What can a person know from ips alone?


Not as much as you probably suspect. At the most I think you can just determine location in a general area the size of a city. So if you live in a 1 person town you might be screwed. Other than that you'd practically need a court order to get the Internet provider to pony up any personal details regarding the IP addy.

Now on the other hand.. if you do things like post the name of your hometown on fornits, personal details, and the program you went to.. then straight way join several myspace advocacy groups and list your hometown name on your myspace profiles along with your personal information that is another story..

tends to seem kind of obvious you know?
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