drug addicts don't want to get clean

[Anonymous]

Reluctant??!?!?  You know nothing at ALL about me.  All i've ever wanted was my freedom...  that's all.  Just that.

What you viewed as independence while living with your parents,

I WASN'T LIVING WITH THEM

I really wanted very little to do with them at all.  I was living in Ireland.  I was threatened with deportation and a "boarding school" didn't seem all that bad at the time.

was acutally dependence. When your parents attempted to help you gain independence, you recoiled into the womb.

Your anger does not hurt me, it only hurts you. It's time to let it go.

Fighting this industry IS me letting go.  I AM letting go of the last shreds of bullshit you people instilled in me, regaining my confidence, and rediscovering who I was.

What I will NOT do is become apathetic, forget about what they did and become apathetic enough to ignore the fact that it is still happening.

You have lived a privelaged life. Your parents were attempting to help you gain independence by letting you choose to live your own life. Instead you chose the easy option, and were unsatisfied with the results of your decision. Nobody can instill in you what you do not willingly accept.

I understand your anger, but it is only misdirected self hate. It is time to set yourself free Psy.

[psy]

You are over dramatizing the day to day efforts each one of us go through living as free adults. Many of us had harships, and continue to have them. You were free to leave, but the city of Redlands scared you

It would scare you too if you had no money, no identification, no property, food or water and there was no homeless shelter anywhere nearby.  And it's November and it cold at night etc...  You try it sometime.  Plus they told me I wouldn't succeed on my own and needed the program, I believed them and they made it seem like the program would work if you worked it.  All I wanted was independence and they made it seem like they were the only way to accomplish that.

and you went back. Being home schooled I can understand this completely.

I truly doubt you were homeschooled.  If you were I can't relate.  I wanted nothing more to be free and independent, living on my own and earning a living.  If they had allowed me to do that I probably wouldn't be here but they had no intention of it.

Also, there were minors there and there were court ordered kids who really did have no choice about staying.  Like I said, it's not really about me, but what happened to everybody else that was usually quite a bit worse (not that my stay was a picnic).

You are blaming everything that went wrong on other people. This is your big mistake that only maturity can correct.

Take a year long break from this web site, it will clear your head.

Stop going to meetings and read a book.  It might clear your head.

[Che Gookin]

Psy.. the best way to let go of your anger is with a grilled cheese sandwich and a glass of choco milk.

Everything else is secondary...

[Anonymous]

You are over dramatizing the day to day efforts each one of us go through living as free adults. Many of us had harships, and continue to have them. You were free to leave, but the city of Redlands scared you

It would scare you too if you had no money, no identification, no property, food or water and there was no homeless shelter anywhere nearby.  And it's November and it cold at night etc...  You try it sometime.  Plus they told me I wouldn't succeed on my own and needed the program, I believed them and they made it seem like the program would work if you worked it.  All I wanted was independence and they made it seem like they were the only way to accomplish that.

and you went back. Being home schooled I can understand this completely.

I truly doubt you were homeschooled.  If you were I can't relate.  I wanted nothing more to be free and independent, living on my own and earning a living.  If they had allowed me to do that I probably wouldn't be here but they had no intention of it.

You are blaming everything that went wrong on other people. This is your big mistake that only maturity can correct.

Take a year long break from this web site, it will clear your head.

Stop going to meetings and read a book.  It might clear your head.

I have been through situations much worse than you describe,many times throughout my life. You will experience worse situations as you mature most likely. I was not home schooled. I can understand why you were so frightened to be on your own, since you were home schooled though. If you wanted nothing more than freedom, you would have done it. Now you blame everyone else but yourself for not doing it. This is classic stinking thinking.

 How long have you been out of treatment? How long have you been sober?

[Froderik]

I can only assume these are more supposed victims of "the industry"

Not "supposed," at least in my case.

Misery loves company. That is why they react so passionately when I am trying to set another one of them free.

Jesus....is that you...?  . :roll:

That's my new name for this web site, cauldron of the miserables. Ha.

You sure sound like some asshole parent...

[Botched Programming]

Is psy the leader of the miserables?.

We must bow and worship Psy as he is the "God" of Fornits.

 ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::

[Anonymous]

You have lived a privelaged life.

And try learning how to spell.... ::seg::

Thank you for pointing out my mistake. You have helped me today.

[Anonymous]

I can only assume these are more supposed victims of "the industry". Misery loves company. That is why they react so passionately when I am trying to set another one of them free.

Is psy the leader of the miserables? That's my new name for this web site, cauldron of the miserables. Ha.

Why is it every time you open your mouth you sound less intelligent?

les Miserables is one musical theatre work that's only half bad...you know what  the "miserable" do to their oppressors at the end, right?

You can’t stop the inevitable. You know you torture kids, I know it…Inside the concentration camps, you can kid yourself that your treating vermin not entitled to human rights or decency, but deep down, you know the truth. That’s  why isolation and secrecy is your primary objective. You know that in the real world, only the most bigoted will want anything other than your head, after knowing what you do to the helpless minorities under your boot

[Che Gookin]

You know.. I'm surprised that everyone assumes that Psy's entire life revolves around the slaying and corn holin' of programs. I heard from a reliable source he enjoys a round of ping pong down at the local YMCA on occasion. Why just last week he told me he couldn't chat with me as he had to get going to go to the arcade with his chums for a jolly good round of space invaders and a frappacino afterwards.



































































ok.. I'm just ripping on Psy.. but the point still stands.. He does have a life outside of all of this as we all do. We just tend to only know of this aspect about each other.

Not that i want to know much about most of you lunatics and likewise I'll keep spreading bullshit rumors about me as I don't think many of you need to know to much about me either.

[psy]

You have lived a privelaged life. Your parents were attempting to help you gain independence by letting you choose to live your own life.

:rofl:

Instead you chose the easy option

Boarding School or streets?  What would you choose?  I had been in boarding school before and liked it.  If I had actually been sent to a boarding school I wouldn't be angry.  I didn't feel the need to check much out since I could have never imagined such places even existed.  I was naive.

and were unsatisfied with the results of your decision.

I think you mean fradulent misrepresentation, false advertising and abuse.  You want my sworn statement?

Nobody can instill in you what you do not willingly accept.

research, not to mention personal experience has taught me otherwise.  Under normal circumstances, you're right, but not in a cult.  If you don't understand how a cult operates, research it.

I understand your anger, but it is only misdirected self hate. It is time to set yourself free Psy.

:rofl:  You do realize your bullshit will only work if my life is a mess, and it's not... so you can just kiss my ass.  Go push your steps somewhere where the populace hasn't already realized what a crock your "treatment" is.

Do you normally analyze strangers, pass judgement and pop-psychoanalyze them.  I do not hate myself, I hate people like you who try to convince people they are sick.  No, i think the direction the hate is pointed is quite appropriate.

I am free in a way you will likely never be.

[Anonymous]

I can only assume these are more supposed victims of "the industry". Misery loves company. That is why they react so passionately when I am trying to set another one of them free.

Is psy the leader of the miserables? That's my new name for this web site, cauldron of the miserables. Ha.

Why is it every time you open your mouth you sound less intelligent?

les Miserables is one musical theatre work that's only half bad...you know what  the "miserable" do to their oppressors at the end, right?

You can’t stop the inevitable. You know you torture kids, I know it…Inside the concentration camps, you can kid yourself that your treating vermin not entitled to human rights or decency, but deep down, you know the truth. That’s  why isolation and secrecy is your primary objective. You know that in the real world, only the most bigoted will want anything other than your head, after knowing what you do to the helpless minorities under your boot

Last time I was in Europe I toured the concentration camps. I have been to treatment centers to visit family, and comparing the two is intellectually dishonest. Why do you bring up minorities? Only rich kids get sent to private programs, they are almost exclusively white. You sound like you might be crazy and need treatment yourself.

[CCM girl 1989]

Ping pong rally on!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

You have lived a privelaged life. Your parents were attempting to help you gain independence by letting you choose to live your own life.

:rofl:

Instead you chose the easy option

and were unsatisfied with the results of your decision.

I think you mean fradulent misrepresentation, false advertising and abuse.  You want my sworn statement?

Nobody can instill in you what you do not willingly accept.

research, not to mention personal experience has taught me otherwise.  Under normal circumstances, you're right, but not in a cult.  If you don't understand how a cult operates, research it.

I understand your anger, but it is only misdirected self hate. It is time to set yourself free Psy.

:rofl:  You do realize your bullshit will only work if my life is a mess, and it's not... so you can just kiss my ass.  Go push your steps somewhere where the populace hasn't already realized what a crock your "treatment" is.

Do you normally analyze strangers, pass judgement and pop-psychoanalyze them.  I do not hate myself, I hate people like you who try to convince people they are sick.  No, i think the direction the hate is pointed is quite appropriate?  

I am free in a way you will likely never be.

You are not sick. You are not an addict. You are not an alcoholic. You are a young man who listened to his parents when he should of said no. That was your chance to emancipate yourself, and you chose not to. I do not wear my negative life experiences on my sleeve. I suck it up, take my lessons from it, and move on. I do not want to enroll you in my treatment center. You don't need it, and it sounds like you never did. The only thing wrong with you is engaging in Stinking Thinking. This website promotes people to remain in Stinking Thinking Land for their entire life. I do not need our sworn statement to know you are angry about your choies. It's time to move on and set yourself free.

I am only trying to help. Like during your treatment, you have the option of taking in what I say or dismissing it. I hope you have learned something today. I know you can overcome this demon Psy.

[psy]

If you wanted nothing more than freedom, you would have done it. Now you blame everyone else but yourself for not doing it. This is classic stinking thinking.

Right.  Becuase I control everything that happens to me in my life. I am responsible for everything right?  Even getting conned. I wanted that right?

How long have you been out of treatment? How long have you been sober?

Well.  Let's see.  I had a beer at my friends house a few weeks ago  (OMG  !  HOLY FUCK  !!! A RELAPSE FOR A DISEASE I DON'T EVEN HAVE).

Let me make it very very clear.  If i could go back in time and run Bill Wilson over with a truck repeatedly, i would do it as a service to humanity.  God damn cult leaders spawn a whole mess when they die.

[Anonymous]

If you wanted nothing more than freedom, you would have done it. Now you blame everyone else but yourself for not doing it. This is classic stinking thinking.

Right.  Becuase I control everything that happens to me in my life. I am responsible for everything right?  Even getting conned. I wanted that right?

How long have you been out of treatment? How long have you been sober?

Well.  Let's see.  I had a beer at my friends house a few weeks ago  (OMG  !  HOLY FUCK  !!! A RELAPSE FOR A DISEASE I DON'T EVEN HAVE).

Let me make it very very clear.  If i could go back in time and run Bill Wilson over with a truck repeatedly, i would do it as a service to humanity.  God damn cult leaders spawn a whole mess when they die.

You are responsible for your decisions and the results of those decisions. Be them bad or good. We are only victims of our own bad decisions. Once we realize this, we live an empowered life, in full control. What are you psy, a victim of the cruel world, or a young man who made a bad decision? I made plenty of bad decisions, worse than yours, it's nothing to be ashamed of. It's how we learn, it's life.