drug addicts don't want to get clean

[psy]

You have lived a privelaged life. Your parents were attempting to help you gain independence by letting you choose to live your own life.

:rofl:

Instead you chose the easy option

and were unsatisfied with the results of your decision.

I think you mean fradulent misrepresentation, false advertising and abuse.  You want my sworn statement?

Nobody can instill in you what you do not willingly accept.

research, not to mention personal experience has taught me otherwise.  Under normal circumstances, you're right, but not in a cult.  If you don't understand how a cult operates, research it.

I understand your anger, but it is only misdirected self hate. It is time to set yourself free Psy.

:rofl:  You do realize your bullshit will only work if my life is a mess, and it's not... so you can just kiss my ass.  Go push your steps somewhere where the populace hasn't already realized what a crock your "treatment" is.

Do you normally analyze strangers, pass judgement and pop-psychoanalyze them.  I do not hate myself, I hate people like you who try to convince people they are sick.  No, i think the direction the hate is pointed is quite appropriate?  

I am free in a way you will likely never be.

You are not sick. You are not an addict. You are not an alcoholic. You are a young man who listened to his parents when he should of said no.

And what?  End up on the streets of DC with nothing.  Sure.  I probably could have made it but Benchmark was advertised to me as a BOARDING SCHOOL.  If I had known, or my parents had known, that it was some sort of treatment centre I would NEVER HAVE GONE.  It sounded like a good idea.

That was your chance to emancipate yourself, and you chose not to.

I tried to.  I got threatened with deportation.  I had no fucking choice.  I left a girlfriend who I loved and a lot of good friends.

I do not wear my negative life experiences on my sleeve. I suck it up, take my lessons from it, and move on. I do not want to enroll you in my treatment center.

LOL.  No.. you don't want me in your treatment centre.  I would excercise my right to free speech and you would most certainly find that unacceptable.  Try to forceably abduct and "treat" me and I will fucking kill you (legally).

You don't need it, and it sounds like you never did.

NO FUCKING SHIT!

The only thing wrong with you is engaging in Stinking Thinking.

LOL... I still get a kick out of that euphemism.

This website promotes people to remain in Stinking Thinking Land for their entire life. I do not need our sworn statement to know you are angry about your choies. It's time to move on and set yourself free.

I am only trying to help. Like during your treatment, you have the option of taking in what I say or dismissing it.

Choice?  You didn't progress if you didn't "work the program" and that meant accepting another belief system.  Sure you could "dismiss it" but you wouldn't go anywhere.  What choice is that.  like I said.. unreasonable alternative to produce an illusion of choice.

I hope you have learned something today. I know you can overcome this demon Psy.

LOL...you're a complete and utter tool.  I pity you.  You wouldn't happen to work at Teen Challenge would you?  I met some tard like you the other day in a class at my college.  Probably would get a red card for my speech today, but you know what...  Constitutions a bitch.

[Anonymous]

Boarding School or streets?  What would you choose?  I had been in boarding school before and liked it.  If I had actually been sent to a boarding school I wouldn't be angry.  I didn't feel the need to check much out since I could have never imagined such places even existed.  I was naive.

Listen to the language, this is Stinking Thinking, to the letter.

Doesn't this sound better? I am taking personal responsibility for my choices in this statement instead of blaming others. Pay careful attention to the changes I have made.
 
Boarding School or leaving home at 18 getting a job and enjoying my freedom? What would you choose? I had been in boarding school before and liked it. If I had not chosen to remain in treatment, I wouldn't be angry. I chose not to check it out.

[Anonymous]

no I disagree with above poster.

while you have the power to make the wrong or right decisions, never should you be sent away and expect that others can fix the problem.

*learning this everyday that this industry is taking advantage of scared parents who ONLY want the best for their beloved child*

[Anonymous]

You have lived a privelaged life. Your parents were attempting to help you gain independence by letting you choose to live your own life.

:rofl:

Instead you chose the easy option

and were unsatisfied with the results of your decision.

I think you mean fradulent misrepresentation, false advertising and abuse.  You want my sworn statement?

Nobody can instill in you what you do not willingly accept.

research, not to mention personal experience has taught me otherwise.  Under normal circumstances, you're right, but not in a cult.  If you don't understand how a cult operates, research it.

I understand your anger, but it is only misdirected self hate. It is time to set yourself free Psy.

:rofl:  You do realize your bullshit will only work if my life is a mess, and it's not... so you can just kiss my ass.  Go push your steps somewhere where the populace hasn't already realized what a crock your "treatment" is.

Do you normally analyze strangers, pass judgement and pop-psychoanalyze them.  I do not hate myself, I hate people like you who try to convince people they are sick.  No, i think the direction the hate is pointed is quite appropriate?  

I am free in a way you will likely never be.

You are not sick. You are not an addict. You are not an alcoholic. You are a young man who listened to his parents when he should of said no.

And what?  End up on the streets of DC with nothing.  Sure.  I probably could have made it but Benchmark was advertised to me as a BOARDING SCHOOL.  If I had known, or my parents had known, that it was some sort of treatment centre I would NEVER HAVE GONE.  It sounded like a good idea.

That was your chance to emancipate yourself, and you chose not to.

I tried to.  I got threatened with deportation.  I had no fucking choice.  I left a girlfriend who I loved and a lot of good friends.

I do not wear my negative life experiences on my sleeve. I suck it up, take my lessons from it, and move on. I do not want to enroll you in my treatment center.

LOL.  No.. you don't want me in your treatment centre.  I would excercise my right to free speech and you would most certainly find that unacceptable.  Try to forceably abduct and "treat" me and I will fucking kill you (legally).

You don't need it, and it sounds like you never did.

NO FUCKING SHIT!

The only thing wrong with you is engaging in Stinking Thinking.

LOL... I still get a kick out of that euphemism.

This website promotes people to remain in Stinking Thinking Land for their entire life. I do not need our sworn statement to know you are angry about your choies. It's time to move on and set yourself free.

I am only trying to help. Like during your treatment, you have the option of taking in what I say or dismissing it.

Choice?  You didn't progress if you didn't "work the program" and that meant accepting another belief system.  Sure you could "dismiss it" but you wouldn't go anywhere.  What choice is that.  like I said.. unreasonable alternative to produce an illusion of choice.

I hope you have learned something today. I know you can overcome this demon Psy.

LOL...you're a complete and utter tool.  I pity you.  You wouldn't happen to work at Teen Challenge would you?  I met some tard like you the other day in a class at my college.  Probably would get a red card for my speech today, but you know what...  Constitutions a bitch.

You were Eighteen. You could of done any number of things young adults do when faced with that very situation. It is not an abusive act to ask an Eighteen year old to care for themselves if the parents do not agree with their lifestyle choices. You are stuck in a black and white thinking pattern. Your think your choices were limited to the streets or a treatment center.  That's what happens when you suffer from Stinking Thinking.

[Froderik]

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[Anonymous]

LOL.  No.. you don't want me in your treatment centre.  I would excercise my right to free speech and you would most certainly find that unacceptable.  Try to forceably abduct and "treat" me and I will fucking kill you (legally).

I cannot forecably abduct you and treat you. As an adult, you would have to sign yourself in, and then could leave at any time. I could not keep your identification, because as an adult, you own it and it would be illegal for me to keep it. You could call the police and have them retrieve your property from me if I decided to steal it from you. If you were disruptive to my treatment center, you would be asked to leave. Some people in treatment really need it, it's a life or death situation for them. I am surprised you have resorted to death threats. You seem like a reasonable young man. I think you are just fantasizing about what you wish you had done last time you were in treatment. Similar to young boys playing with guns and candy cigarettes to make them feel more grown up and manly.

Nobody can abduct you for treatment, this is another fantasy of yours and the death theats are unnecessary. You signed yourself in, don't forget that Psy. You are only a victim of your own bad decisions.

[psy]

You are responsible for your decisions and the results of those decisions. Be them bad or good. We are only victims of our own bad decisions. Once we realize this, we live an empowered life, in full control.

I am not god, and certainly neither are you.  Unexpected things happen and people get tricked.  Are the jews responsible for their deaths?

[Anonymous]

I can only assume these are more supposed victims of "the industry". Misery loves company. That is why they react so passionately when I am trying to set another one of them free.

Is psy the leader of the miserables? That's my new name for this web site, cauldron of the miserables. Ha.

Why is it every time you open your mouth you sound less intelligent?

les Miserables is one musical theatre work that's only half bad...you know what  the "miserable" do to their oppressors at the end, right?

You can’t stop the inevitable. You know you torture kids, I know it…Inside the concentration camps, you can kid yourself that your treating vermin not entitled to human rights or decency, but deep down, you know the truth. That’s  why isolation and secrecy is your primary objective. You know that in the real world, only the most bigoted will want anything other than your head, after knowing what you do to the helpless minorities under your boot

Last time I was in Europe I toured the concentration camps. I have been to treatment centers to visit family, and comparing the two is intellectually dishonest. Why do you bring up minorities? Only rich kids get sent to private programs, they are almost exclusively white. You sound like you might be crazy and need treatment yourself.

Why don't you google "intellectually dishonest" you’re using the term incorrectly. I think you might be evil and need prison yourself.

Concentration camps-
People imprisoned without due process and tortured--often to death

Programs
Ditto

Concentration camps-
Peoples’ “mental stateâ€

[psy]

You were Eighteen. You could of done any number of things young adults do when faced with that very situation.

Name a few, please.

It is not an abusive act to ask an Eighteen year old to care for themselves if the parents do not agree with their lifestyle choices.

It was cruel and a decision based on prejudice and hate.  Is it illegal, no.  Was it wrong?  Yes.

You are stuck in a black and white thinking pattern. Your think your choices were limited to the streets or a treatment center.

Well.  Theoretically I could have risked deportation but I didn't want to get arrested or anything (no criminal record).  You tell me all these options since your supernatural powers give you such insight into my past.

That's what happens when you suffer from Stinking Thinking.

Even my parents acknowledge they gave me no other choice.  Are they victims of the same AA cultspeak term?

[Anonymous]

You are responsible for your decisions and the results of those decisions. Be them bad or good. We are only victims of our own bad decisions. Once we realize this, we live an empowered life, in full control.

I am not god, and certainly neither are you.  Unexpected things happen and people get tricked.  Are the jews responsible for their deaths?

You are the second person to now compare themselves to the Jewish victims of the holocaust. I know you are desperately seeking victim status, but this is beyond comparison. You are not Jews facing a holocaust. Your attempt to apply black and white stinking thinking on every tragic situation shows me how deply entrenched you really are.

[Froderik]

Sure, there are differences, concentration camps set out to deliberately kill the bodies, with minds being destroyed secondarily but inevitably, while programs deliberately kill the minds with bodies being destroyed secondarily but inevitably.
But, the grave murderous similarity is more than adequate for the comparison to be right on

Whoever you are, I'm glad you made this point, and I would have to agree. There was quite a to-do over this a few years back on the Straight Vets forum. Anyway, while a comparison like that may seem like a bit of a stretch and/or insulting to holocaust survivors, programs ARE grave and murderous indeed, and we could draw a comparison or two.... instead of Jews, they eat our young..

[Anonymous]

You were Eighteen. You could of done any number of things young adults do when faced with that very situation.

Name a few, please.

It is not an abusive act to ask an Eighteen year old to care for themselves if the parents do not agree with their lifestyle choices.

It was cruel and a decision based on prejudice and hate.  Is it illegal, no.  Was it wrong?  Yes.

You are stuck in a black and white thinking pattern. Your think your choices were limited to the streets or a treatment center.

Well.  Theoretically I could have risked deportation but I didn't want to get arrested or anything (no criminal record).  You tell me all these options since your supernatural powers give you such insight into my past.

That's what happens when you suffer from Stinking Thinking.

Even my parents acknowledge they gave me no other choice.  Are they victims of the same AA cultspeak term?

If you are still questioning how to care for yourself as an independent adult, it makes even more sense why you entered, and returned to treatment. When you left treatment, did you go back to your parents house? Do you still live at home even now? How old are you now?

[Anonymous]

programs deliberately kill the minds with bodies being destroyed secondarily but inevitably.

What does this mean, can you elaborate? You are the most elequent mindless zombie I've ever run across, assuming you have been in a program that "killed your mind". Why are the bodies of program participants destroyed secondarily? Do you all enjoy such pessimism directed at each other?

[Froderik]

I know you are desperately seeking victim status, but this is beyond comparison. You are not Jews facing a holocaust.

No, we're probably not ~all Jews.. you're right about that.. haha.

Your attempt to apply black and white stinking thinking on every tragic situation shows me how deply entrenched you really are.

This is really funny.


I can't believe ppl keep replying to this shit, yet here I am.. :rofl:

[Froderik]

programs deliberately kill the minds with bodies being destroyed secondarily but inevitably.

What does this mean, can you elaborate? You are the most elequent mindless zombie I've ever run across, assuming you have been in a program that "killed your mind". Why are the bodies of program participants destroyed secondarily? Do you all enjoy such pessimism directed at each other?

Free your mind and your ass will follow...