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[ajax13]

Relapse is a nonsense word.  People drink or use other drugs or they don't.  Evans used drugs and then murdered someone.  The majority of people use drugs and/or drink, but most do not murder hookers.  But out of the tiny little group of grads from AARC, why so many committing suicide and murdering and otherwise creating mayhem?  
This treatment centre is, without a doubt, fucking up people.  But then it's not licensed as a treatment centre; the Executive Director is not a psychologist although he has repeatedly lied about being one, and his only accreditation in the field of adolescent drug rehabilitation is a mail-order PhD that he got several years after opening All About Receiving Cash.  The staff are frantically scrambling to acquire some sort of legitimate accreditation, but for fifteen years they've used counsellors with no training other than the special magic spells that the Wizard learned at Kids.
But I guess it's okay to murder a hooker and dump her body as long as you turn yourself in.  They don't even try you for crimes if you turn yourself in.  That's right isn't it?
And golly, if one single person becomes a better person and one hundred kill themselves and another half dozen murder other folks, well, them's the breaks, right?

[sicktomystomach]

Ok I gotta respond to this. Those who relapse, relapse, yes they do. But they weren't killing people before their minds were messed up.

Take a person prone to blackouts while drinking.

Add equal gallons of shame, guilt, abuse, threats and involuntary confinement and everything else clients need to endure in SOME treatment centres and you now have a person who blacks out AND kills people while drinking.

1.43% of AARC "Graduates" commit murder.

I guess what you're saying is AARC has NO affect on people?? I guess they can't be held responsible for HELPING people if they can't be responsible for HURTING people either, and vice versa.

I'm entitled to my opinion, but, go ahead... I know it's coming... bash me.

[Rachael]

Ok I gotta respond to this. Those who relapse, relapse, yes they do. But they weren't killing people before their minds were messed up.

Take a person prone to blackouts while drinking.

Add equal gallons of shame, guilt, abuse, threats and involuntary confinement and everything else clients need to endure in SOME treatment centres and you now have a person who blacks out AND kills people while drinking.

1.43% of AARC "Graduates" commit murder.

I guess what you're saying is AARC has NO affect on people?? I guess they can't be held responsible for HELPING people if they can't be responsible for HURTING people either, and vice versa.

I'm entitled to my opinion, but, go ahead... I know it's coming... bash me.

I do not bash people, and I hope you let me know if you feel you are being attacked. But here goes....

AARC is plenty powerful. They have the ability to change people's lives dramatically. They can hurt and offer a hand to soothe and make you feel all safe and warm. They offer to solve all of your problems - and for a while, they often do. When someone is in complete control of every aspect of your existence, down to whether or not you are allowed to use the bathroom, they can make you feel however they want you to feel.

This is all within AARC, once outside, this all changes. Because AARC simply does not allow any discussion of underlying issues. "You are not in here because your father molested you, you are in here because you were using drugs." AARC does not ever allow anyone to deal with the reasons they had to look for an escape in the first place. They claim that drugs were the cause of all your problems. They will in fact claim that every problem in your life was caused by your disease, and that AARC/AA will solve them all for you. I think that this is one of the most dangerous aspects of AARC. Because when a person gets out and happens across a difficult patch in their life (and everyone does), first they will try to apply everything AARC has taught them - One day at a time, Easy does it, etc. When AARC's method doesn't work to solve every problem, they have nowhere next to go. Because AARC constantly drills it into your head that no one can help you but AARC. No one knows you like another addict. And that AARC was the "end of the line". So when eventually AARC's principles don't solve everything, there is no backup plan. And because AARC has taught us all that doctors are "quacks" who know nothing about the problems we might have - same with therapists, psychiatrists, and friends not in the program - there is no where to go. They have nothing, so they give up. This has been the case with so many, many graduates that it is the true tragedy of AARC. It is not the physical and/or sexual abuse that some suffer, bad as it may be, but the lasting psychological damage that is done. AARC does not have a single professional psychiatrist or doctor onsite who treats or diagnoses underlying issues that these kids have. That is why AARC can be held (at least partially) responsible for the ultimate desperation and isolation that kids like Jason, Cody, Andy, Devon, etc, etc. feel at the end.

[Anne Bonney]

You guys are messed up!  
For those of you blaming a treatment centre for someone else's actions...that is stupid...its a treatment centre, not GOD!  

When the treatment center abuses the kids, its their fault.  

If treatment centres didnt exist, there would be ALOT more fucked up people in this world than there is.

We're not talking about treatment centers.  We're talking about AARC.

 

Think about it ... those who relapse, relapse, and are no worse off than they were...if ONE single person becomes a better person, then that my friend is a miracle!

No, its not.  You people use that to justify what you do.  Never mind that it harms thousands, if ONE person decides to stop using drugs (never mind that they most likely didn't have a drug problem to begin with as AARC doesn't require a diagnosis by a medical doctor) its worth the thousands of destroyed lives.  Bull   Shit

We dont need 80 different people to blame for one person's misconduct.....one is enough - and he turned himslef in!  What is wrong with you people??
Have some respect.....self-centeredness only gets you so far!

What's wrong with you that you would justify the harming of thousands because ONE person thinks that someone was helped?

[Anonymous]

are you high again Anne?

[Anonymous]

Well "Special" Lady, looks like they were right.
AARC told this little boy that if he did not follow their teachings he was going to end up insaneinjailordead. (why is that always all one word on here?) And they were right. He fell off the wagon and did end up insaneinjailordead. Go back to addictions and yup, you live outside of your own control.

Like you morons, on a blog site. Seemingly ALL DAY EVERYDAY, and ALL NIGHT.

Don't you get tired of your OWN SELVES?

I guess I'd use too...

[Anne Bonney]

Well "Special" Lady, looks like they were right.
AARC told this little boy that if he did not follow their teachings he was going to end up insaneinjailordead. (why is that always all one word on here?) And they were right. He fell off the wagon and did end up insaneinjailordead. Go back to addictions and yup, you live outside of your own control.

Like you morons, on a blog site. Seemingly ALL DAY EVERYDAY, and ALL NIGHT.

Don't you get tired of your OWN SELVES?

I guess I'd use too...

Don't you get tired of calling people names because you've got nothing better to add to the conversation?  You keep telling us what losers we are for posting here but you sure can't seem to tear yourself away.
:rofl:

What's wrong with using responsibly?  Just because YOU can't doesn't mean others don't.  Step away from the KoolAid for a bit darlin'.  There's a whole big world out there for you to discover.
 



And for the last time, its not a BLOG, its a MESSAGE BOARD.  Blogs are written by one person, message boards have many members.

[ajax13]

Do you mean insane like the guy who calls himself a psychologist when he is not, and thinks that nobody will be the wiser?  And once more, with feelings, what are you doing in this forum?  You can go back to open meeting and see your favorite evangelist any time you wish.

[ajax13]

Do you mean insane like the guy who calls himself a psychologist when he is not, and thinks that nobody will be the wiser?  And once more, with feelings, what are you doing in this forum?  You can go back to open meeting and see your favorite evangelist any time you wish.

[Anne Bonney]

AARC told this little boy that if he did not follow their teachings he was going to end up insaneinjailordead. (why is that always all one word on here?)

Because its the same shpiel most programs give frightened parents.  They tell them that their kid will be deadinsaneorinjail if they don't sign 'em up quick.  Then they tell the kids that if they ever reject AARC's philosophies, they'll be deadinsaneorinjail.  Its called a self-fulfilling prophecy and every legitimate psychologist knows that's a dangerous thing to fuck around with.  Its how cults operate.  Make the victim completely dependent on the program for their very salvation and you've got 'em for life.

Fucking sick assholes.

[hanzomon4]

[quote=""How Thought Reform Works"] TACTIC 7. Certain secular psychological threats [force] are used or are present: That failure to adopt the approved attitude, belief, or consequent behavior will lead to severe punishment or dire consequence, (e.g. physical or mental illness, the reappearance of a prior physical illness, drug dependence, economic collapse, social failure, divorce, disintegration, failure to find a mate, etc.).[/quote]

It's telling that all the AARColytes that come here believe that we all have drug problems and no life. They convict themselves, with their own insults, of being a cult and they don't even know it.
 ::roflmao::

[Anonymous]

Isn't it true that AARC teaches that druggies and prostitutes have no rights? Being that he was an AARC wonder could he have perhaps been trying to show her some AARC love?

No, that is not true. That statement is false, they do not "teach" that at all. I have been around there lately and that is just not the case.

[ajax13]

AARC teaches you that nobody has any rights but the Wizard.  
AARC violates three of the four Fundamental Freedoms of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:
Section 2
a. freedom of conscience and religion
At AARC you must accept a belief in powerlessness and also in a higher power.  You must also accept blame for using drugs.
b. freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression
AARC uses the old Synanon methods to control how a person thinks.  Opinions contrary to AARC's are not acceptable, and again belief in a higher power is mandatory.  AARC does not let children see their parents without an AARColyte present, thus preventing freedom of expression.  
d. Freedom of association
AARC will actually prevent children from seeing their own parents.
Section 7
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.
AARC takes the liberty of its inmates.  AARC compromises the security of the person by putting  teens in charge of other teens, and placing teens in the homes of parents whose only qualification is having produced a child who ende up at AARC
Section 9
Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
At AARC you'll get out when the Wiz says you get out.
Section 12
Everyone has the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment and punishment.
Zero Club?

[Anonymous]

Isn't it true that AARC teaches that druggies and prostitutes have no rights? Being that he was an AARC wonder could he have perhaps been trying to show her some AARC love?

No offense, but what the HELL are you talking about?

AARC teaches that "druggies and prostitutes" are human people just like anybody else, but their brain has been taken over by their disease. They treat them just like any other human, and want them to be helped. Theyve never said anything about them not having rights.

I knew andy. andy was an awesome guy when he was sober. He relapsed, and did something horrible and theres no excuse for that, he has to be accountable for his disease. But he did it because he was in drug induced psychosis, not because he was acting on the behalf of AARC.

[Anonymous]

AARC teaches you that nobody has any rights but the Wizard.  
AARC violates three of the four Fundamental Freedoms of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:
Section 2
a. freedom of conscience and religion
At AARC you must accept a belief in powerlessness and also in a higher power.  You must also accept blame for using drugs.
b. freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression
AARC uses the old Synanon methods to control how a person thinks.  Opinions contrary to AARC's are not acceptable, and again belief in a higher power is mandatory.  AARC does not let children see their parents without an AARColyte present, thus preventing freedom of expression.  
d. Freedom of association
AARC will actually prevent children from seeing their own parents.
Section 7
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.
AARC takes the liberty of its inmates.  AARC compromises the security of the person by putting  teens in charge of other teens, and placing teens in the homes of parents whose only qualification is having produced a child who ende up at AARC
Section 9
Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
At AARC you'll get out when the Wiz says you get out.
Section 12
Everyone has the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment and punishment.
Zero Club?

umm first of all your blowing everything there way out of porportion. first of all, aarc dosnt tell anybody that they have no rights. Dr. Vause is not the all powerful head of everything, he has bosses in the organization that tell him what he can and cant do.

Powerlessness is a concept you totally dont understand. It is not that you have to give your free will to aarc, it is that you cant control life, and the more you try to control it the more frustrating it becomes. The one thing you can control is your choices and your actions in life.

Higher power is also a concept you dont understand. A higher power is not defined by aarc, in fact it is defined as God as you understand him. Whether your "god" is your grandmother, allah, or your 3rd grade science teacher. As long as you believe that this entity can help guide you in life, it is a higher power.

AARC children can see their parents. And an aarc staff member dosnt have to be present. Just not in the first small bit of their treatment.

And as for "getting out when the wiz says you get out" and all that stuff, it is the parents choice if they want to pull their kid out of treatment, and it is the kids choice if he/she is over 18. It is not like they are trapped there against their (or their parents') will.