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« on: September 13, 2007, 04:02:49 PM »
THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN THAT COMMITTED SUICIDE AT ASPEN ACHIEVEMENT ACADEMY IN APRIL OF 2007. I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFO. IF YOU WERE THERE OR KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE AROUND THAT TIME PLEASE POST A REPLY OR SEND ME AN E-MAIL OR PRIVATE MESSAGE WHATEVER YOU ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2007, 07:40:55 PM »
I hope you get your answers Mommabear.  I'm bumping this up.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 07:14:48 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2007, 08:15:21 PM »
IM STILL WAITING AND HOPING SOMEONE HAS ANSWERS.PLEASE HELP.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2007, 08:48:25 AM »
It seems like many kids choose this sad route of escape from abusive programs, and for some reason they don't get included in the deaths like they don't count or something, like they are damaged and not humans trying to escape a bad situation. People kill thesmelves in jail and people understand that, so why not this?
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2007, 09:51:47 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
It seems like many kids choose this sad route of escape from abusive programs, and for some reason they don't get included in the deaths like they don't count or something, like they are damaged and not humans trying to escape a bad situation. People kill thesmelves in jail and people understand that, so why not this?



I don’t think anyone knows for sure why a person takes their own life, but what we do know is many times that the people who are left behind feel a tremendous amount of guilt, the parents of the child feel they could have done something to prevent it like address the problem sooner, the ex-girlfriend/boyfriend who just broke up with them wish they hadn’t written that letter, the brother or sister who laughed when they finally got rid of their sibling for a year, the staff member who feels he/she might have been too harsh, the therapist who missed some of the warning signs.  It is fair to say that everyone feels they are somehow responsible…but not every child can be reached or root cause determined… I have had my share of families who had to bear this tragedy in their lives.
 
But don’t let the silence fool you…. These kids are remembered well by everyone…. but it seems the families just need a little more space and privacy than in other circumstances of the death of a child (i.e. car accident, health problems)…it’s a little more personal because of the reasons I described above and obituaries are not always placed in the paper celebrating the child’s past football accomplishments or love of cars.  So don’t despair that these kids are forgotten because their name wasn’t placed on the internet or in the paper …..they are not… the ones that count, those who were close to them and knew them well will remember them and the good they did for others and all the people they touched during their short time here… these thoughts will linger forever.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2007, 09:37:55 PM »
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Quote from: ""Guest""
It seems like many kids choose this sad route of escape from abusive programs, and for some reason they don't get included in the deaths like they don't count or something, like they are damaged and not humans trying to escape a bad situation. People kill thesmelves in jail and people understand that, so why not this?


I don’t think anyone knows for sure why a person takes their own life, but what we do know is many times that the people who are left behind feel a tremendous amount of guilt, the parents of the child feel they could have done something to prevent it like address the problem sooner, the ex-girlfriend/boyfriend who just broke up with them wish they hadn’t written that letter, the brother or sister who laughed when they finally got rid of their sibling for a year, the staff member who feels he/she might have been too harsh, the therapist who missed some of the warning signs.  It is fair to say that everyone feels they are somehow responsible…but not every child can be reached or root cause determined… I have had my share of families who had to bear this tragedy in their lives.
 
But don’t let the silence fool you…. These kids are remembered well by everyone…. but it seems the families just need a little more space and privacy than in other circumstances of the death of a child (i.e. car accident, health problems)…it’s a little more personal because of the reasons I described above and obituaries are not always placed in the paper celebrating the child’s past football accomplishments or love of cars.  So don’t despair that these kids are forgotten because their name wasn’t placed on the internet or in the paper …..they are not… the ones that count, those who were close to them and knew them well will remember them and the good they did for others and all the people they touched during their short time here… these thoughts will linger forever.


Yadda yadda ya... It does matter if they are in the internet or the paper.  Especially when there are industry shills running around claiming that such things are necessary for their statistics on the safety of such places. Pfft... (and stay the hell away from that thread, please, please, please)

Let me give you a different version of what others think might think.  Let's take George at Benchmark...  George went to Benchmark, a NATSAP program that is not licensed as a treatment center or accredited as a school.  George was bipolar and already suicidally depressed.  Benchmark has no licensed therapists / counselors on staff.  Some don't even have high school diplomas.  Students who were there at the time say that Benchmark made the situation much much worse with him.  Eventually, an extra-harsh confrontation from counselor Joelle (according to multiple witnesses with identical accounts of the event) was too much for him and he jumped off a bridge onto his head.  Nothing was in the papers.  Nothing was on the internet.  The family got the consolation of having a nice special parent group with hand-picked students.  Jayne (the owner) admitted to most of this, but insisted his death was inevitable, that it would have happened no matter what.

My opinion: the school is directly responsible for his death.  They claimed to be able to help him when were not qualified, or otherwise able to do so.  They also knew he was at a risk to himself and allegedly ignored his suicidal behavior as "manipulation".  Furthermore, verbally attacking an already fragile teen with a pre-existing and noticable history of depression is reckless, in my opinion.

Why no lawsuit?  Probably because Benchmark's contract has a liability waiver and "covenant not to sue".  It probably wouldn't hold in court, but most parents wouldn't know that.  Furthermore, the parents, with all the LGAT seminars and incessant propoganda, probably left the situation believing the school: that their child was depressed and destined to die (according to the all-knowing deities of the cult/school).

Let's talk about ambulance records.  An investigator for the California Alcohol and Drug programs went down to Benchmark and happened to ask about the semi monthly suicide attempts I alleged.  Jayne Longnecker claimed that there were no suicide attempts, and that the investigator could check with the local police department (whom her husband and son in law work for, as well as the family of other staff members).

As you might expect, there were no ambulance records...  However... Like all crooks eventually do, Jayne Longnecker made a mistake:  she forgot that both ex-students and their parents had copies of the ambulance bills (and now, so do I).  What this adds up to is this:  I have proof that Jayne lied to an investigator about the suicide attempts.  Later on, she did worse, but I won't / can't talk about that until the time is right.

How many deaths are covered up, Who?  Given the frequency of suicide attempts at Benchmark, the age of the program, and the effectiveness of their cover up, it really is anybody's guess; however I do know that the official record is not accurate, and in case you have been sleeping around here, Benchmark is not exactly the only school around with the "aid" of local law enforcement.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2007, 10:15:00 PM »
I am not a NATSAP employee or member.  I am sure there are exceptions and incidences of corruption or corrupt employees  in any industry.  But the population of TBS are much higher at risk than an average cross section of the public sector.  What you describe, if true, is horrible and should never happen to anyone, but the kids at TBS are typically at a higher risk of suicide because many come to these schools with that precondition as you had mentioned… I am sorry for what happened to George, I truly am, but I don’t think this is typical of all schools or school employees.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2007, 08:03:25 AM »
Kids are at higher risk in TBS schools because they are forced into mentally taxing situations that are a. abusive, like being forced to relive a rape in front of groups of kids and later get "confronted" for it or reveal private and humiliating things and have it told to a group of kids in a manner that furthers  the kid's humiliation, b. Most of these situations are not directed by people trained in dealing with the high trauma that comes out of these "sessions", of course most professionals would not allow these sessions to take place to begin with.

In TBS schools you have non-professionals or people armed with crackerjack therapy that try to systematically create trauma. They admit to trying to break kids and are quiet good at it. Doing this to an already at risk population, of which most teens are by TBS standards, you ask for suicide. As psy said we know that programs cover up suicides/attempts and we also know from looking at other traumatized populations, like war vets, that suicide due to trauma can take years to play out. But I'm not out to convince anyone so.........
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2007, 11:22:54 PM »
THE CHILD THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT AAA WAS A GOOD KID THAT HAD ISSUES THAT NO ONE COULD FIGURE OUT OR UNDERSTAND HIS OLDER BROTHER DIED THREE YEARS EARLIER IN A CAR ACCIDENT. THIS MADE HIM HIS PARENTS ONLY LIVING CHILD. HE DID NOT DO DRUGS, HE WENT TO SCHOOL , WAS A GOOD SON AND A GOOD FRIEND .HE JUST NEVER THOUGHT HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH. AFTER SEVERAL THREATENED AND ATTEMPTED SUICIDES HIS PARENTS WERE DESPERATE FOR HELP(like many others).SO THEY TURNED TO THE "EXPERTS" YOU KNOW THE ONES AT ASPEN ACHIEVEMENT ACADEMY THAT SAID THEY WOULD HELP HIM AND PROTECT HIM . WELL GUESS WHAT THAT IS NOT HOW THIS STORY ENDS BUT THE PUBLIC WILL NEVER KNOW THAT AS LONG AS AAA HAS THEIR WAY ABOUT IT WHEN YOU LOOK THEM UP ON THE WEB ALL YOU WILL SEE IS ALL OF THEIR PROMISES AND FALSE ADVERTISEMENTS . ONLY THE "SUCCESS STORIES" WILL BE TOLD. THEY CERTAINLY WONT TELL THE STORY ABOUT THE AMAZING 17 YEAR OLD BOY THAT THEY WERE "HELPING" AND "PROTECTING" THAT HUNG HIMSELF ON THIER WATCH . THE TRUTH DOESN'T ALWAYS MAKE FOR VERY GOOD PUBLICITY DOES IT?????
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2007, 04:48:56 AM »
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THE CHILD THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT AAA WAS A GOOD KID THAT HAD ISSUES THAT NO ONE COULD FIGURE OUT OR UNDERSTAND HIS OLDER BROTHER DIED THREE YEARS EARLIER IN A CAR ACCIDENT. THIS MADE HIM HIS PARENTS ONLY LIVING CHILD. HE DID NOT DO DRUGS, HE WENT TO SCHOOL , WAS A GOOD SON AND A GOOD FRIEND .HE JUST NEVER THOUGHT HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH. AFTER SEVERAL THREATENED AND ATTEMPTED SUICIDES HIS PARENTS WERE DESPERATE FOR HELP(like many others).SO THEY TURNED TO THE "EXPERTS" YOU KNOW THE ONES AT ASPEN ACHIEVEMENT ACADEMY THAT SAID THEY WOULD HELP HIM AND PROTECT HIM . WELL GUESS WHAT THAT IS NOT HOW THIS STORY ENDS BUT THE PUBLIC WILL NEVER KNOW THAT AS LONG AS AAA HAS THEIR WAY ABOUT IT WHEN YOU LOOK THEM UP ON THE WEB ALL YOU WILL SEE IS ALL OF THEIR PROMISES AND FALSE ADVERTISEMENTS . ONLY THE "SUCCESS STORIES" WILL BE TOLD. THEY CERTAINLY WONT TELL THE STORY ABOUT THE AMAZING 17 YEAR OLD BOY THAT THEY WERE "HELPING" AND "PROTECTING" THAT HUNG HIMSELF ON THIER WATCH . THE TRUTH DOESN'T ALWAYS MAKE FOR VERY GOOD PUBLICITY DOES IT?????


If you really want to fuck them up, create a videotaped sworn statement and put it up on youtube.  Talk about what happened... etc.  Just make sure to post a link here.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2007, 06:41:45 AM »
or give a sworn statement to isaccorp
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2007, 11:11:02 AM »
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Re: SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2007, 05:47:53 AM »
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THE CHILD THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT AAA WAS A GOOD KID THAT HAD ISSUES THAT NO ONE COULD FIGURE OUT OR UNDERSTAND HIS OLDER BROTHER DIED THREE YEARS EARLIER IN A CAR ACCIDENT. THIS MADE HIM HIS PARENTS ONLY LIVING CHILD. HE DID NOT DO DRUGS, HE WENT TO SCHOOL , WAS A GOOD SON AND A GOOD FRIEND .HE JUST NEVER THOUGHT HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH. AFTER SEVERAL THREATENED AND ATTEMPTED SUICIDES HIS PARENTS WERE DESPERATE FOR HELP(like many others).SO THEY TURNED TO THE "EXPERTS" YOU KNOW THE ONES AT ASPEN ACHIEVEMENT ACADEMY THAT SAID THEY WOULD HELP HIM AND PROTECT HIM .


I have known a couple kids who had siblings die in terrible accidents. As anyone might expect, it was very tough on the surviving kids as well as their parents. Lots of depression, grief and survivor guilt, so it wouldn't surprise me if suicidal tendencies are more common in a kid or even a parent who has suffered that loss.

It's just unbelievable that a parent could be convinced that sending a depressed, grieving kid away from his family after the loss of a sibling could possibly help him. Even more unbelievable when you realize that the place he's being sent to is a behavior modification facility that offers no real therapy.

What really angers me is that the managers and staffers at the program don't reject kids like this and tell the parents sorry, we can't help you. The program knows that it is all about trying to make unruly kids behave themselves with a tough love approach. The program should know better when they see a kid who's depressed and suicidal, who is obviously not going to respond in any positive way to the program's methods of breaking kids down and teaching them a lesson or two about acceptable behavior.

Either the program owners are just too greedy or the staff just too incompetent to make any sort of diagnosis at all. Probably both.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2007, 05:22:30 AM »
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