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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2007, 06:14:46 PM »
is this in-patient or out-patient?
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2007, 06:33:20 PM »
inpatient
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2007, 12:00:29 AM »
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or give a sworn statement to isaccorp
CAN I DO THAT EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT HIS PARENT
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2007, 01:04:47 AM »
Yes.

But CAPS LOCK, while it is in fact cruise control for cool, probably won't go over very well with the GAO.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2007, 02:56:19 AM »
possibly. At the very least flip them an email. I
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2007, 11:22:40 AM »
I worked for Aspen at the time of the suicide and was there several years, and know everything that happened. It saddens me to hear all of these attacks on Aspen, and its employees. Although it is in fact part of a corporation, the employees and management are the most loving, incredible people I've ever met in my life. During the whole time I worked there as a field instructor, I've never seen anything remotely abusive. Every week, during graduation at Aspen, several parents come up to our director and literally say to him 'You saved my kids life'. He has heard this hundreds, if not thousands of times from parents and students alike. How come you guys never talk about this?

Do you know why the suicide did not become news? It wasn't some elaborate coporate coverup....the student's family wanted to keep it quiet, they did not feel ANY bad feelings toward Aspen. To this day, they are still 100% supportive of the academy. Sorry for going on here.....I understand why this is important, I believe completely in accountability...and I know there are programs out there that need more accountability, but I can tell you this--Aspen Achievement Academy is not one of those.

It was rarely the case when I met a student or parent on graduation day that was not completely grateful for being involved with AAA. I understand that it is had to believe someone like me, who is not an independent source.....but it is the truth.
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2007, 01:09:45 PM »
Other parents have also thanked the program where their child died.  It's called denial.
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2007, 01:29:57 PM »
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I worked for Aspen at the time of the suicide and was there several years, and know everything that happened. It saddens me to hear all of these attacks on Aspen, and its employees. Although it is in fact part of a corporation, the employees and management are the most loving, incredible people I've ever met in my life. During the whole time I worked there as a field instructor, I've never seen anything remotely abusive. Every week, during graduation at Aspen, several parents come up to our director and literally say to him 'You saved my kids life'. He has heard this hundreds, if not thousands of times from parents and students alike. How come you guys never talk about this?

Do you know why the suicide did not become news? It wasn't some elaborate coporate coverup....the student's family wanted to keep it quiet, they did not feel ANY bad feelings toward Aspen. To this day, they are still 100% supportive of the academy. Sorry for going on here.....I understand why this is important, I believe completely in accountability...and I know there are programs out there that need more accountability, but I can tell you this--Aspen Achievement Academy is not one of those.

It was rarely the case when I met a student or parent on graduation day that was not completely grateful for being involved with AAA. I understand that it is had to believe someone like me, who is not an independent source.....but it is the truth.


Thanks for posting that.  There are a few of us here who understand this and know that the vast majority of children who graduate do extremely well and look back on their experience at Aspen or other TBS's as a positive changing point in their lives.  There are a few posters here on fornits who did not do well or did not benefit from their stay at other RTC's either because they didnt finish or didnt apply themselves.  This has left them bitter against anyone who had taken the opportunity they were given and moved on with their lives.  They tend to run other people down and the schools they attended.
Many parents don’t post here because they see thru the negativity and hostility towards other posters who are trying to share their positive experiences.  But it is nice to hear the good stories when some stay and decide to share with us despite the lack of a warm welcoming.
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2007, 01:32:53 PM »
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Quote from: ""anonymous7786""
I worked for Aspen at the time of the suicide and was there several years, and know everything that happened. It saddens me to hear all of these attacks on Aspen, and its employees. Although it is in fact part of a corporation, the employees and management are the most loving, incredible people I've ever met in my life. During the whole time I worked there as a field instructor, I've never seen anything remotely abusive. Every week, during graduation at Aspen, several parents come up to our director and literally say to him 'You saved my kids life'. He has heard this hundreds, if not thousands of times from parents and students alike. How come you guys never talk about this?

Do you know why the suicide did not become news? It wasn't some elaborate coporate coverup....the student's family wanted to keep it quiet, they did not feel ANY bad feelings toward Aspen. To this day, they are still 100% supportive of the academy. Sorry for going on here.....I understand why this is important, I believe completely in accountability...and I know there are programs out there that need more accountability, but I can tell you this--Aspen Achievement Academy is not one of those.

It was rarely the case when I met a student or parent on graduation day that was not completely grateful for being involved with AAA. I understand that it is had to believe someone like me, who is not an independent source.....but it is the truth.

Thanks for posting that.  There are a few of us here who understand this and know that the vast majority of children who graduate do extremely well and look back on their experience at Aspen or other TBS's as a positive changing point in their lives.  There are a few posters here on fornits who did not do well or did not benefit from their stay at other RTC's either because they didnt finish or didnt apply themselves.  This has left them bitter against anyone who had taken the opportunity they were given and moved on with their lives.  They tend to run other people down and the schools they attended.
Many parents don’t post here because they see thru the negativity and hostility towards other posters who are trying to share their positive experiences.  But it is nice to hear the good stories when some stay and decide to share with us despite the lack of a warm welcoming.


Referring to himself alone as "us" and "we" again...  What a cukoo!
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2007, 01:48:23 PM »
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Many parents don’t post here because they see thru the negativity and hostility towards other posters who are trying to share their positive experiences.


Or they catch on to the lies that the pro-program people pump out trying to discredit the truth and make people believe that the abuse that happened decades ago does not still still go on in programs.

"Proof shown in article below"

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/2004-12 ... -together/
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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2007, 02:05:40 PM »
Instead of "we" or "us", I could use "Programmies" !!!! or  "Non Anti-program people" or "ProProgam people" or  "People who dont agree with anti-program people" or "People who dont buy into mindcontrol"
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2007, 02:08:40 PM »
Or you could just speak for your own damn self instead of trying to insinuate yourself into what "we" do around here.  You are not part of "us".  You never have been, you never will be.

From now on just use "I".


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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2007, 04:05:46 AM »
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I worked for Aspen at the time of the suicide and was there several years, and know everything that happened. It saddens me to hear all of these attacks on Aspen, and its employees. Although it is in fact part of a corporation, the employees and management are the most loving, incredible people I've ever met in my life. During the whole time I worked there as a field instructor, I've never seen anything remotely abusive. Every week, during graduation at Aspen, several parents come up to our director and literally say to him 'You saved my kids life'. He has heard this hundreds, if not thousands of times from parents and students alike. How come you guys never talk about this?

Do you know why the suicide did not become news? It wasn't some elaborate coporate coverup....the student's family wanted to keep it quiet, they did not feel ANY bad feelings toward Aspen. To this day, they are still 100% supportive of the academy. Sorry for going on here.....I understand why this is important, I believe completely in accountability...and I know there are programs out there that need more accountability, but I can tell you this--Aspen Achievement Academy is not one of those.

It was rarely the case when I met a student or parent on graduation day that was not completely grateful for being involved with AAA. I understand that it is had to believe someone like me, who is not an independent source.....but it is the truth.


Do the parents have to attend group meetings at aspen? That could be the reason they feel the program saved their lives.

Or it could be because you torture the kids and tell them the only way they can leave is to convince you that they beleive the program saved their lives, as they were headed inevitably, twords being deal/insane/jail
They then communicate this to the parents
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« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2007, 07:31:33 AM »
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Quote from: ""anonymous7786""
I worked for Aspen at the time of the suicide and was there several years, and know everything that happened. It saddens me to hear all of these attacks on Aspen, and its employees. Although it is in fact part of a corporation, the employees and management are the most loving, incredible people I've ever met in my life. During the whole time I worked there as a field instructor, I've never seen anything remotely abusive. Every week, during graduation at Aspen, several parents come up to our director and literally say to him 'You saved my kids life'. He has heard this hundreds, if not thousands of times from parents and students alike. How come you guys never talk about this?

Do you know why the suicide did not become news? It wasn't some elaborate coporate coverup....the student's family wanted to keep it quiet, they did not feel ANY bad feelings toward Aspen. To this day, they are still 100% supportive of the academy. Sorry for going on here.....I understand why this is important, I believe completely in accountability...and I know there are programs out there that need more accountability, but I can tell you this--Aspen Achievement Academy is not one of those.

It was rarely the case when I met a student or parent on graduation day that was not completely grateful for being involved with AAA. I understand that it is had to believe someone like me, who is not an independent source.....but it is the truth.

Thanks for posting that.  There are a few of us here who understand this and know that the vast majority of children who graduate do extremely well and look back on their experience at Aspen or other TBS's as a positive changing point in their lives.  There are a few posters here on fornits who did not do well or did not benefit from their stay at other RTC's either because they didnt finish or didnt apply themselves.  This has left them bitter against anyone who had taken the opportunity they were given and moved on with their lives.  They tend to run other people down and the schools they attended.
Many parents don’t post here because they see thru the negativity and hostility towards other posters who are trying to share their positive experiences.  But it is nice to hear the good stories when some stay and decide to share with us despite the lack of a warm welcoming.


Looks like some of the regulars here are starting to change their minds some?
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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2007, 07:40:33 AM »
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Quote from: ""anonymous7786""
I worked for Aspen at the time of the suicide and was there several years, and know everything that happened. It saddens me to hear all of these attacks on Aspen, and its employees. Although it is in fact part of a corporation, the employees and management are the most loving, incredible people I've ever met in my life. During the whole time I worked there as a field instructor, I've never seen anything remotely abusive. Every week, during graduation at Aspen, several parents come up to our director and literally say to him 'You saved my kids life'. He has heard this hundreds, if not thousands of times from parents and students alike. How come you guys never talk about this?

Do you know why the suicide did not become news? It wasn't some elaborate coporate coverup....the student's family wanted to keep it quiet, they did not feel ANY bad feelings toward Aspen. To this day, they are still 100% supportive of the academy. Sorry for going on here.....I understand why this is important, I believe completely in accountability...and I know there are programs out there that need more accountability, but I can tell you this--Aspen Achievement Academy is not one of those.

It was rarely the case when I met a student or parent on graduation day that was not completely grateful for being involved with AAA. I understand that it is had to believe someone like me, who is not an independent source.....but it is the truth.

Thanks for posting that.  There are a few of us here who understand this and know that the vast majority of children who graduate do extremely well and look back on their experience at Aspen or other TBS's as a positive changing point in their lives.  There are a few posters here on fornits who did not do well or did not benefit from their stay at other RTC's either because they didnt finish or didnt apply themselves.  This has left them bitter against anyone who had taken the opportunity they were given and moved on with their lives.  They tend to run other people down and the schools they attended.
Many parents don’t post here because they see thru the negativity and hostility towards other posters who are trying to share their positive experiences.  But it is nice to hear the good stories when some stay and decide to share with us despite the lack of a warm welcoming.

Referring to himself alone as "us" and "we" again...  What a cukoo!


Here's the original quote.  Please note that TheWho altered his post to to try to attribute his words to Anne.  In some strange way, like a five year old, he has an enormous crush on Anne, but he is so emotionally underdeveloped he can't just say it, so he acts out like a child.  

For chissake, Who, if you want to fuck Anne, just come out and say it already.
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