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Keep mouth shut or spill the beans?

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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 06:25:08 PM »
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And of all people you sent it to TSW? You've been here long enough to know better than that.

TSW may be many things, but I think we can all agree he speaks his mind and follows what he thinks is right, even if it makes him look bad.  He is one of the few people who I know has worked as staff and now advocates against most programs and therefore thought his opinion would be impartial or at least neutral and honest and that is why someone  turned to him with this.  But it just burns my butt to no end to see him make a public poll out of this in place of relying on his own conscience.

Remember, TSW, Umbra is an American based Company.


Well.  Knowing TSW, he is probably just playing with you and would never post the information.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2007, 06:51:20 PM »
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And of all people you sent it to TSW? You've been here long enough to know better than that.

TSW may be many things, but I think we can all agree he speaks his mind and follows what he thinks is right, even if it makes him look bad.  He is one of the few people who I know has worked as staff and now advocates against most programs and therefore thought his opinion would be impartial or at least neutral and honest and that is why someone  turned to him with this.  But it just burns my butt to no end to see him make a public poll out of this in place of relying on his own conscience.

Remember, TSW, Umbra is an American based Company.



I wasn't saying anything about his integrity, or what he should or shouldn't do.  Just that you should know that he'd at least have to bust your balls about it.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2007, 06:54:26 PM »
So.... is the general reading audience here to conclude that Who profits from referrals to programs but we can't know the specifics?

80% say "spill the beans"
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2007, 07:01:24 PM »
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Your word is your word.

Under most circumstances, but consider that at least in my program, there were a great many things that were part of the "code of silence".  If I break that, in order to help another, is it it wrong?

If he gave his word to TheWho, yes, you're probably right, but even then, as in the above example, there are always times...  It depends.  I have very little, if any compassion for people who participate, however indirectly, in this cancerous industry.


I have no compassion for anyone but the victims.   I have a great curiosity about the individual who lives any part of 'that life'.  Aren't you 'supporting' them by observing the 'code'?  And the fact is your word is your word -- or it isn't.  
I don't think this will cost anyone sleep, but it will make me a little less-trusting of you  ::mecry::
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2007, 07:09:35 PM »
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So.... is the general reading audience here to conclude that Who profits from referrals to programs but we can't know the specifics?

80% say "spill the beans"


I read it as voting "Yes" means to keep his mouth shut.  "No" is to spill the beans.
Either way I am fairly confident, at this point, that he will not spill the beans.  I believe he has been contacted by now (if not shortly) and the voice of reasoning will prevail.

TSW, I am hopeing you will come back with your decision.  I dont know what time it is where you are, but it is Friday night here, and I wont get any sleep until I hear an answer or at least to know that someone has spoken to you.  If this is just a game ,I am not interested in your chess match.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 07:14:56 PM »
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You are bound to keep your mouth shut.

When I sent...errr when you received that email it was implied that it would be kept secret and in confidence.

you are bound by your own conscience....  I persoanlly think you are an ass for bringing this up on a public forum, there may be no turning back.



For God's sake!!  Won't anyone think of the reputations and the money?

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btw.  No text in Who's quote was altered.  I simply added the size and color for emphasis.
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 07:17:44 PM »
::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 07:22:13 PM »
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I read it as voting "Yes" means to keep his mouth shut.  "No" is to spill the beans.
Either way I am fairly confident, at this point, that he will not spill the beans.  I believe he has been contacted by now (if not shortly) and the voice of reasoning will prevail.

TSW, I am hopeing you will come back with your decision.  I dont know what time it is where you are, but it is Friday night here, and I wont get any sleep until I hear an answer or at least to know that someone has spoken to you.  If this is just a game ,I am not interested in your chess match.


That's some funny stuff right there.
 :rofl:  :rofl:



I love it when the shoe's on the other foot.  You program shills are such pussies.  You'd never last a week in the shitpits you push.

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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2007, 07:24:32 PM »
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So.... is the general reading audience here to conclude that Who profits from referrals to programs but we can't know the specifics?

80% say "spill the beans"

I read it as voting "Yes" means to keep his mouth shut.  "No" is to spill the beans.
Either way I am fairly confident, at this point, that he will not spill the beans.  I believe he has been contacted by now (if not shortly) and the voice of reasoning will prevail.

TSW, I am hopeing you will come back with your decision.  I dont know what time it is where you are, but it is Friday night here, and I wont get any sleep until I hear an answer or at least to know that someone has spoken to you.  If this is just a game ,I am not interested in your chess match.


True, the poll question and options weren't clear. But, clearly this involves you. You're here and claim to have integrity, so set the record straight, spill the beans yourself. Do you profit from placements into Teen BM Warehouses?
It's not like this would be devastating news? Most already suspect it.
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2007, 07:44:24 PM »
TheWho sure knows how to rile up a crowd.
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« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2007, 07:49:14 PM »
Here's an outrageous suggestion:  "reputation and money," eh?  RD decides to branch out, given that clientele seem to have dropped off, and makes a referral under Sue's tutelage!
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« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2007, 07:49:36 PM »
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TheWho sure knows how to rile up a crowd.



I believe the credit goes to Waygookin for that.  He began this thread.  It's not like we didn't already know, it's just being proven out now.
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« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2007, 08:06:42 PM »
If TheWho is an ed-con, why would anyone sit on this information?  They wouldn't.
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« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2007, 08:22:33 PM »
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If TheWho is an ed-con, why would anyone sit on this information?  They wouldn't.


I am not an ed-con.  This is a personal matter that just got out of hand.  Sometimes you put your trust in someone without weighing the consequences if that trust happens to be compromised.
TSW, by now, has been given some options which he is undoubtedly thinking over.  I have 2 things to say to him to assist him in his thoughts:

Mal han matie chonnyang pito kapnunda.

Nat marun saeka tuko pam marun chuika tutnunda.

Take your time and think it over.
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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2007, 08:30:35 PM »
:rofl:  :roll:  :rofl:
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